So what do you think about porn?

[Leigha]

Is it bad, good, should be illegal? or merely a form of questionable recreation?

[abadani69]

members please do not open similar threads. we have many threads about sex in the love section, please refer to that section. Thanks!

[zubin]

porn and sex are different abadan! what I think about it? I'm not 100% against it in all circumstances, but I think that its unnecessary for freedom. I don't see how it relates to freedom. If a society has freedom, people won't want to make porn. Porn only comes from repression of one's nature.

[abadani69]

I know they are diff from each other but they all relate the same. Kholase az man be shoma ye nasihat bood ke donbale kaarhaye khalaf narid. Redwine ke omad in ro bast on vaght be harfe man miresid

[mike435]

porn and sex are different abadan! what I think about it? I'm not 100% against it in all circumstances, but I think that its unnecessary for freedom. I don't see how it relates to freedom. If a society has freedom, people won't want to make porn. Porn only comes from repression of one's nature.

in my college the last thing that is repressed is sex and yet a ferternity group created their own porn movie

[mike435]

porn is good

[Leigha]

i still dont know where i stand

[zubin]

in my college the last thing that is repressed is sex and yet a ferternity group created their own porn movie

repression is a social thing mike. your fraternity exists within the broader social repression. its alsoa psychological concept. if someone feels repressed, they will want to explode into porn.

do you understand now? please try to understand what I'm saying before pretending to refute it

[mike435]

repression is a social thing mike. your fraternity exists within the broader social repression. its alsoa psychological concept. if someone feels repressed, they will want to explode into porn.

do you understand now? please try to understand what I'm saying before pretending to refute it

yea i understand that what your coming i have perty good i dea of what you are saying

based on the observation of looking at relligious communitys
when one community is relligious by choice and the other is relligious by force
in the forced relligious more porn, by choice relligious less porn
but cant you say that resualt is becuse the one by choice has already filtered out those who want porn and the one that is forced has kept its people who want porn

and regarding feeling you are right i guss becuase ussualy the craziest girl or atleast wildes ones are the ones who were brought up in represedd homes enviorment i am only saying this becuase i see it from that prespective and how girl interact towrdes me and my friends.

i dont think what i said earlier was right but i still dont think what you are saying is right
i think if we continue we will arive somwhere were nither of us currently know what it is

[zubin]

look mike, its not about who wins the conversation. the fact is, you agree that repression is part of the cause of porn. the only other question is if there was no repression, would there be porn? my answer is clearly no. If my fact is correct, then logically porn is both unnecessary and a symptom.

and don't mix this up with 'criticism of the people who porn'. I am personally a defender that someone have the right to exercise their nature. My point is different, that when working towards a society porn is not a good thing.

[Leigha]

zubin!!!! what the hell??? you cannot honestly sit there and say that porn would not exist if repression didnt exist. do you know what you are saying? you speak of utopias which can never exist. and u think of porn as bad, its just human nature isnt it, just on tape? be it preverse or not, i think you are letting your prejudice dictate your opinion

[Leigha]

p.s. mike i think i agree with you high five

[abadani69]

Zubin,mibini in porn che balai sare in javoonaye ma ovorde?az raah kolan be dareshoon karde

[zubin]

zubin!!!! what the hell??? you cannot honestly sit there and say that porn would not exist if repression didnt exist. do you know what you are saying? you speak of utopias which can never exist. and u think of porn as bad, its just human nature isnt it, just on tape? be it preverse or not, i think you are letting your prejudice dictate your opinion

what am I prejudiced against? I'm talking about the real world. First of all, most countries which one can consider healthy (e.g. some european countries), do not have porn at all to the extent which exists in the US. Second of all, human beings change with time. Right now can be seen as an experimental phase of human nature and sexuality, but it is completely possible that this is just a phase of experimentation. It is also human nature to go through phases of experimentation, to learn from experiments and move on.

so if repression (historical and current) isn't the main drive of porn, what is the reason, in your opinion, that someone would get involved in porn?

[Leigha]

Well i think you just take a biased opinion on either your religious beliefs or experience. Just an observation, you can correct me if i am wrong. but here is the thing... this real world you talk about is full of things that you would call grotesque or experimental. yeah that is of course an opinion, hence where is the line that we draw seperating opinion from fact, but you cannot even deny that this world or the "healthy countries" as you have called them are without or exist without these ajeeb goings-on. i mean, porn is a term coined by scientists to explain what our desires and lusts seek. Is it wrong to want to touch and kiss and be with someone in ways which some of us would undoubtedly cringe at? and is it wrong to watch people do these things, knowing that we have dont the same things behind doors, or havent wanted to do these things? i agree with you that is it a phase of experimentation that we go through, but i dont think that we ever grow out of it, because it is a source from which we can get endless amount of pleasure and fantasy from. Of course America does have a lot of porn venues because of the demand for it. And i think it has to do with culture, but then there is the question of if america has such a demand for porn, and by no means is america under oppression, then how do you qualify your statements. if impoverished countries are healthy than i guess there wouldnt be a need for porn because they are too busy standing in mile long lines waiting to buy milk and bread, or working 2 to 3 jobs to support their families, so i guess then, the need or desire for anything but rest is out of the question. and so the circle continues ...