How Much Do You Believe In Yourself ?

[Rasputin]

How easy is it for somebody to change your mind?

Whether it be by what they say, write, or in example of their actions. How would somebody change your mind in what you believe, or are you steadfast in your beliefs?

By beliefs, it could be anything from your belief in God, abilities, what you think is right, what you think you have experienced etc.

So, do you sway with the wind or are you open-minded OR are you so set that nothing on earth could move you from what you think?

Do others continually try to change your mind for you, getting upset when you refuse to budge because it is not their way of thinking.

Perhaps you have had a peculiar experience that others have pooh-poohed - they haven't had it happen, therefore it doesn't exist sort of thing - when they continually bombard you with "you are wrong, you imagined it all etc etc" does it make you doubt?

Just curious...

Waiting for your opinions... :=)

[zubin]

Sorry of the length, thanks for the opportunity...


There are certain conditions in which human beings feel much more comfortable to submit to an adversary view. The ease in which they do so under these conditions is very great, yet most people think, quite deterministically, that "people do not change", or, that "making people change is unethical", similar to Hitler or some other nonsense.

The reality is that people want to change. Especially in the fast-changing new world. A child, a democracy, a friend, are all things that often call out for us to guide them, help them, respect them, so that they can change and feel better or more prosperous. People realize that they have to change to keep up with the world, and that it is highly beneficial to them to do so.

Then there are the conditions that monopolize change, such as disrespecting a person's right to self-determination. The person or country has her own mind, whether given by God or evolution or both, and it is they who must choose whether to take an alternative course of action. This is the real concept of free will.

If the conditions are given where a person (1) has all options in front of her, (2) and has her free will respected, the person will make the right choice or will be receptive to or in search of guidance. Often (2) is not fulfilled. More subtle and important is (1). When no options are offered by one's environment, they are forced to stay the same.

There is a problem where a person does not like the options in front of him. He must be offered options which speak to him. The key here is that there are options that speak to him that are better than his current course. But, it might still not be good enough to compel significant change. Here, if the issue is political or moral, intervention becomes an option. Intervention is the intuitive minimization of loss when deciding between two conflicting parties. If it is only a personal problem, it is simply a matter of tolerance between him and those who are different.

To answer the question about myself

I've actually experienced much of this personally, and suspect everyone else has as well. When people make clear indications about my options, and my free will has been respected, I unconsciously choose the best option. By also seeking out options, such as being open to "the philosophical search for truth", I've always changed my beliefs very fast. Some things are largely settled for me however, and they only change that comes for me is increased tolerance of and interaction with the opposite view. I'd like to think the only reason those stronger beliefs don't change is that I've (a) repeatedly, (b) truly objectively, concluded against the proposed view.

[Dokhtar Bandari]

I believe that when you experience something as truth, it will settle in you and removes all doubts. As surely as the sun will rise and the moon will shine, the truth will stay with you until you experience otherwise. Most of our beliefs have been handed to us by our parents, school, society and the world we have lived in. Basically they created a reality for us and said "here you go". To change that, (1) you must want to and (2)start questioning everything even the change you are asking for.

Once a belief system is firmed in the conscious mind...your behaviour becomes automatic. Your modus operati is no longer yours and its just playing a tape for you. Example: have you ever drove a certain distance with a friend and gotten into a discussion and before you knew it you got to your destination? Now if someone were to ask you to explain your driving behaviour or what did you pass? you will not be able to recall that. So who was driving and who was talking? Now let's say you drive an automatic car and that you switch to a standard..you will struggle, will get frustrated and want to give up. But once you learn it, it becomes automatic...do you understand? So this life that most people live is on an automatic pilot...it knows that you are used to certain level of living and it will keep you there (no higher no lower), it knows that you are Muslim so it will keep you there...unless you start questioning yourself and the your surroundings? and that becomes a beginning of change...then you have to deal with your doubts and settle in a truth that brings about changes which you have desired.

In my case, I have stood in front of an infinite love and my whole being and perspective of life changed in an instance. I learned in a very very short time a lot of things about humanity and human, I learned who I am and why I am here. Upon contemplating infinity I learned that I can be infinite. I learned that past, future, time and space are nothing but my minds measurements of accepting things around me...so I learned to go beyond and live in everlasting now. I am still learning...at times I even struggle, get angry or become sad at thing that I know...but soon I become centered and my focus becomes clear through meditation and contemplation. From this point on I would not want to change only progress and expand. Changing me (my reality not physical body) after what I have experienced would be almost impossible to an average human. Perhaps transformation may be suited word to use..in my case. I am always open to learn more about anything and everything.

[zubin]

I believe that when you experience something as truth, it will settle in you and removes all doubts. As surely as the sun will rise and the moon will shine, the truth will stay with you until you experience otherwise. Most of our beliefs have been handed to us by our parents, school, society and the world we have lived in. Basically they created a reality for us and said "here you go". To change that, (1) you must want to and (2)start questioning everything even the change you are asking for.

Once a belief system is firmed in the conscious mind...your behaviour becomes automatic. Your modus operati is no longer yours and its just playing a tape for you. Example: have you ever drove a certain distance with a friend and gotten into a discussion and before you knew it you got to your destination? Now if someone were to ask you to explain your driving behaviour or what did you pass? you will not be able to recall that. So who was driving and who was talking? Now let's say you drive an automatic car and that you switch to a standard..you will struggle, will get frustrated and want to give up. But once you learn it, it becomes automatic...do you understand? So this life that most people live is on an automatic pilot...it knows that you are used to certain level of living and it will keep you there (no higher no lower), it knows that you are Muslim so it will keep you there...unless you start questioning yourself and the your surroundings? and that becomes a beginning of change...then you have to deal with your doubts and settle in a truth that brings about changes which you have desired.

In my case, I have stood in front of an infinite love and my whole being and perspective of life changed in an instance. I learned in a very very short time a lot of things about humanity and human, I learned who I am and why I am here. Upon contemplating infinity I learned that I can be infinite. I learned that past, future, time and space are nothing but my minds measurements of accepting things around me...so I learned to go beyond and live in everlasting now. I am still learning...at times I even struggle, get angry or become sad at thing that I know...but soon I become centered and my focus becomes clear through meditation and contemplation. From this point on I would not want to change only progress and expand. Changing me (my reality not physical body) after what I have experienced would be almost impossible to an average human. Perhaps transformation may be suited word to use..in my case. I am always open to learn more about anything and everything.

Very well said, and interesting experience.

[Dokhtar Bandari]

Well thank you sir. I should take that as a compliment from a great spirit such as yours.

[zubin]

you the same, thanks for your superior input.

[mike435]

were is my moment of infinit life and total truth?

wow


your guys are really special


nice
props

[zubin]

its existentialism. everyone experiences change, its our nature

[indian_blues]

were is my moment of infinit life and total truth?

Its in yourself.