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RedWine
07-19-2007, 06:24 AM
If somebody was born muslim,still is a muslim or not ? what is your opinion ?

RedWine
08-18-2007, 08:58 AM
Any opinion ?

indian_blues
08-19-2007, 10:50 AM
S he/she is a Muslim, it doesn't mean he/she should be religious or some sort of.

Dokhtare_Malous
08-19-2007, 09:54 PM
in my opinion if a person is born muslim or any other religion will still be a muslim or other religion unless that person decide to change his/her religion by themselves, but i think that religion is like your name when you were born you get a name and that will still be with you even after you grow up but this is also up to that person to change it or not.

ali_jigar
08-20-2007, 12:02 PM
Ofcourse if you were born Muslim you will still be a Muslim

zubin
08-20-2007, 03:44 PM
If you are "born" a Muslim but you never practice Islam, in my opinion you are not a Muslim. In other words, aside from adopting a formality, you can't be born a Muslim. You would have to actually believe in Islam in your real life.... If you don't believe in Islam (even if you don't believe in other religions), how can you be a Muslim by default? You are who YOU are, not what some paper tells you.

Dokhtare_Malous
08-20-2007, 06:36 PM
well we are not saying that papers tells us what to do, if you were born muslim or any other religions u are still a muslim or anything else, even if you dont practice or believe in it however it is in ur heart u dont have to pray or do many other things so that u can prove ur muslim or anyother religion whats in ur heart that matters not by showing off, once again in my point of view.

abadani69
08-20-2007, 08:14 PM
If you were born Muslim then you are a Muslim no matter if your parents were religious or not. If you want to change your religion later, then this is your decision wheather you wanna change or not. As Malous said, your religion in ur heart no matter if you practice or not!!

LadyPersia
08-20-2007, 09:17 PM
your religion in ur heart no matter if you practice or not!!

DIDO .

zubin
08-21-2007, 01:11 PM
well we are not saying that papers tells us what to do, if you were born muslim or any other religions u are still a muslim or anything else, even if you dont practice or believe in it however it is in ur heart u dont have to pray or do many other things so that u can prove ur muslim or anyother religion whats in ur heart that matters not by showing off, once again in my point of view.

If you were born Muslim then you are a Muslim no matter if your parents were religious or not. If you want to change your religion later, then this is your decision wheather you wanna change or not. As Malous said, your religion in ur heart no matter if you practice or not!!


If someone is born a Muslim and believes in Islam, then they are a Muslim. But if someone is born a Muslim but does not believe in it, they do not need to change their piece of paper to say they are not a Muslim. That's what I'm saying. I'd be interested if you disagree...

abadani69
08-21-2007, 05:11 PM
well,if you are intersted then I will disagree :D

all I am saying is if your parents are Muslim then you are borned Muslim, it's just in your heart. then you can go sign another Paper and change your religion. Ramin, in papere chi e ke man sign nakardam hanooz?:D biyar ta man ham sign konam age dary sare emza kardan jar vo bahs mikoni :D:lol: loool

zubin
08-21-2007, 05:41 PM
bebeen, if your dad was born Muslim, but was not religious, you might or might not be a Muslim, depending on whether you have faith in Islam.

een kaghazaro ta be donya amadi emza kardi! :lol: vali kheyli-ha emza nakardan!

abadani69
08-21-2007, 05:44 PM
valla man emza nakardam. ha aslan man be Islam Faith daram, hasoodit mishe?:D biya khodam be raahe rast hedayatet mikonam :Dlool

Dokhtare_Malous
08-21-2007, 10:44 PM
bebeen, if your dad was born Muslim, but was not religious, you might or might not be a Muslim, depending on whether you have faith in Islam.

een kaghazaro ta be donya amadi emza kardi! :lol: vali kheyli-ha emza nakardan!

what are you talking about? even if your dad for example is muslim and doesnt practice it then he is still a muslim doesnt matter you practice or not all it matters is that you were born with it and you have it in ur heart. mohem nist ke beshini namaz bekhooni vo khialy karaye dige anjam bedi ke be hame neshoon bedi ke muslim hasty ya na, khoda nagofte ke bayad inkaro konin ke muslim bashin va agar inkaro nakonin ya be ghole khodet parctice nakonin ur not muslim:rolleyes::rolleyes:i dont agree with you at all. but again now ur a grown up person u can change ur religion or not its up to u.;)

zubin
08-21-2007, 11:11 PM
what are you talking about? even if your dad for example is muslim and doesnt practice it then he is still a muslim doesnt matter you practice or not all it matters is that you were born with it and you have it in ur heart. mohem nist ke beshini namaz bekhooni vo khialy karaye dige anjam bedi ke be hame neshoon bedi ke muslim hasty ya na, khoda nagofte ke bayad inkaro konin ke muslim bashin va agar inkaro nakonin ya be ghole khodet parctice nakonin ur not muslim:rolleyes::rolleyes:i dont agree with you at all. but again now ur a grown up person u can change ur religion or not its up to u.;)

but that's my point, in some cases its not in your heart whether your parents were born muslim or not. If its not in your heart, you don't have to officially change your religion. What happens if you're not that religious and don't want to be part of any specific religion?

abadani69
08-22-2007, 12:00 AM
on vaght mesle khodet vo Redwine Kafar hastid :D Ramin inghadr ba ma jar vo bahs nakon, khodet kafari nemikhad dige baghiye ro az raah be dar koni :Dlooool

SuperWoman
08-22-2007, 08:19 AM
i agree with ramin though....being born to muslim parents doesn't make you muslim....islam is a faith, you are only muslim if you believe in it.

zubin
08-22-2007, 10:19 AM
on vaght mesle khodet vo Redwine Kafar hastid :D Ramin inghadr ba ma jar vo bahs nakon, khodet kafari nemikhad dige baghiye ro az raah be dar koni :Dlooool

ki goft man kafaram! az ru che hesabi een harfo meezani aziz! :lol:

mike435
08-22-2007, 10:24 AM
i think this is variable, from a religious Muslims view point whether you have faith or not have faith you are still considered a Muslim

from some one who was "born in to it " and does not have faith they don't consider the person who is not practicing it a Muslim

abadani69
08-22-2007, 11:09 AM
nisty?khob nabash, mikhay vasat bandary beraghsam?:D Agha man hanooz harfe khodamo mizanam, if you were born Muslim you are still a Muslim. Hala Ramin tu rafty Religionet ro avaz kardi vo Mormon shodi dige that's your mental issue :D:D:lol: looool

ki goft man kafaram! az ru che hesabi een harfo meezani aziz! :lol:

zubin
08-22-2007, 12:53 PM
:lol: hahaha Mormon khodeti. AGAR karet esm gozariye va bayad yek esmi ru man bezari Sufi am

abadani69
08-22-2007, 12:59 PM
looooool, i was Mormon, but i am Muslim now :D looool

Sufia ke esme dokhtare, che esme ghashangi dari :Dloool

agha back to the subject, i was born muslim then i changed to Mormon, then i realized what a stupid mistake i have done, so then again I changed to Muslim ;)

Dokhtare_Malous
08-22-2007, 05:14 PM
oh my God che jangi shode inja. agha alslan che bekhayn che nakhayn if u were born in any religion u r still in that religion even if you dont have faith, if you dont belive, and if you dont practice it at all. khalas ;);)

zubin
08-28-2007, 10:46 PM
oh my God che jangi shode inja. agha alslan che bekhayn che nakhayn if u were born in any religion u r still in that religion even if you dont have faith, if you dont belive, and if you dont practice it at all. khalas ;);)

khob een nazare shomast. man ham manteghi daram harf meezanam. agar kesi tu delesh neest, neest deege... lazem be kaghazo madarek nadare!

Kabutar
12-21-2008, 08:10 PM
If you're born muslim you're still a muslim

zubin
12-21-2008, 08:32 PM
i'm glad i got this message after all this time. look at post #17, not everyone agrees that a piece of paper dictates how you define yourself.

indian_blues
12-22-2008, 02:36 AM
fact: zubin is still alive.

zubin
12-22-2008, 04:02 AM
fact: zubin is still alive.

i'm as suprised as you are. i am also suprised that you are still alive lol


most importantly let the madness continue

DokhtarIrooni
12-22-2008, 11:19 AM
i was born a muslim, but im not a muslim anymore. so the answer is NO

Inquisitor
12-25-2008, 02:31 AM
People are born faithless and belief cannot be forced on any mind due to its nature.