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The Misconception of How the Ideal,Fundamental State Works with Progress
In the areas of human rights and politics, there is clearly a conflict between the fundamentalists and the reformists, the conservatives and liberals, and so on.... One of the conflicts rightly surrounds the fundamentalist notion that morals are absolute and fundamental by their nature. The mistake made is that this idea automatically leads to a certain kind of society. Morals may be fundamental in nature, but one can not simply achieve fundamentalism by implementing it. The argument is that, absolute freedom brings morals and fundamentals into the mix. Then, through consensus can an ideal polity form. This also stands as a critique to those liberals who don't believe society has any direction.
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Last edited by zubin; 12-17-2007, 10:17 AM.Take him and cut him out in little stars,
and he will make the face of heaven so fine,
that all the world will be in love with night,
and pay no worship to the garish sun
- Shakespeare
"In all intellectual debates, both sides tend to be correct in what they affirm, and wrong in what they deny." - JS Mill -
would this be something very similar to american demo cryOriginally posted by zubin View Post
were freedom to shape policy the way you want and easy entery of ideas into the system create that need for consensus which we have
example morality of evangelist and morality of far left constantly battling it out most of the times through consensus (supream court, legislation, bills, etc) we arrive at a moderat or at very least a modart position with a lean towards one side or the other
G-d determines who walks into your life....It is up to you to decide who you let walk away, who you let stay, and who you refuse to let go.
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yeah, absolute freedom brings consensus and the perfect society. I might not have been clear in my original post though. I'm talking about a global society, because the nation state is artificial, impeding to freedom, and outdated. thanks for the replyOriginally posted by mike435 View PostTake him and cut him out in little stars,
and he will make the face of heaven so fine,
that all the world will be in love with night,
and pay no worship to the garish sun
- Shakespeare
"In all intellectual debates, both sides tend to be correct in what they affirm, and wrong in what they deny." - JS MillComment
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do you think the islamic world can handel absoulte freedom or a consensus processOriginally posted by zubin View Post
when their core belive is that sate and relligion are the same
G-d determines who walks into your life....It is up to you to decide who you let walk away, who you let stay, and who you refuse to let go.
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internationalization is something that Islam is interested in.Take him and cut him out in little stars,
and he will make the face of heaven so fine,
that all the world will be in love with night,
and pay no worship to the garish sun
- Shakespeare
"In all intellectual debates, both sides tend to be correct in what they affirm, and wrong in what they deny." - JS MillComment
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what do you base on
most other religous groups arnt
G-d determines who walks into your life....It is up to you to decide who you let walk away, who you let stay, and who you refuse to let go.
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the reason why any religion is interested in internationalization is clearly its inevitability, and the notion of a global monotheism! this gets them off!!!! clearly, the new and future regime is global, don't you think?Originally posted by mike435 View PostTake him and cut him out in little stars,
and he will make the face of heaven so fine,
that all the world will be in love with night,
and pay no worship to the garish sun
- Shakespeare
"In all intellectual debates, both sides tend to be correct in what they affirm, and wrong in what they deny." - JS MillComment
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