Religion is Fire

[Rasputin]

[maryam9]

ive never heard of the term religionist so i dont know if i am one or not

[b]There are also those who don’t seem to be able to make do without a religion of some sort, preferably a “divine” religion. These people value the warmth that the religious fire gives them, the assurance it provides that the cold earth is not their end, and the promise that there is an eternal life of bliss after death. It is only fair that the “fire” that keeps the religionist warm not set ablaze the home of the non-religious.

all religions tell you to love one another. so even if there is not a life after we die, at least we know that the life that we did live was a peaceful one where we didnt harm anyone or be bad to anyone.

Some questions for religionists:

* A belief qualifies as “divine” religion because someone claims it is?

difficult to explain in a few sentences. maybe zubin can

* A belief becomes religion because millions believe in it?

no...

* Should religion and state interlace? Which religion? The religion of the majority in any given country?

i dont think you should mix religion with politics

* Should being a religionist confer the person preferential status over the non-religious?

No, because God has created all humans equal. Only God can judge us. For example someone who thinks they are religious can have really bad actions, but a person who does not belong to any religion has better actions.

* Should religionists have complete freedom to practice their belief, even when they infringe on the rights of others?

of course not. religion is a personal thing and is between you and God. If you harm other people then you are being hypocritical because religion should be the cause of unity and not create disunity

* Should religionists have the right to vilify as heathen the people of other persuasions and those of no religious belief?

no. instead it should be unity in diversity a beautiful garden is only beautiful when you have different flowers of different shapes and colours

* Should religionists have the right to force their belief on others?

No way. They can teach and only continue if the person is interested. If the other person isnt interested they cannot force. Its against human rights to force religion onto anyone else:

Article 18.
Everyone has the right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion; this right includes freedom to change his religion or belief, and freedom, either alone or in community with others and in public or private, to manifest his religion or belief in teaching, practice, worship and observance.

* Should religionists actively engage in the subjugation or elimination of the non-religious?

No because that is hypocritical.

[Dokhtar Bandari]

When energy is put to good use, it is the boon of mankind. And when it is misused or abused it is the bane of humanity. Therefore, credit or blame rests with the user of energy.

Agreed.

No religion gives u "assurance" only a hope and never an assurance.

Precisely. Unless you experience what "divine" is you are only taking someone words for it which sounds good to you and you agree with it.

* A belief becomes religion because millions believe in it?

You don't even need millions any collective agreement on a single agreed upon thought will do it.

* Should religion and state interlace? Which religion? The religion of the majority in any given country?

No way no how... never ever.

* Should being a religionists confer the person preferential status over the non-religious?

This is good time to say "gooz be shaghigheh rabt nadarad"..lol

* Should religionists have complete freedom to practice their belief, even when they infringe on the rights of others?

They should have freedom within the boundaries of respect and reverence for all.

* Should religionists have the right to vilify as heathen the people of other persuasions and those of no religious belief?

No.

* Should religionists have the right to force their belief on others?

Under no circumstances.

* Should religionists actively engage in the subjugation or elimination of the non-religious?

Under no circumstances.

With respect to religion, it matters not that someone claims that he is the emissary of the Creator; that he is bringing binding teachings from the Lord. There is no objective way of ascertaining the truth or falsehood of the claim. The claimant may be a charlatan, mentally disturbed, or indeed an emissary of the divine. What really matters is that the claimant and his claim serve the cause of the good for all of mankind and completely shun causing contention and strife among people.

True.

[Dokhtar Bandari]

With respect to religion, it matters not that someone claims that he is the emissary of the Creator; that he is bringing binding teachings from the Lord. There is no objective way of ascertaining the truth or falsehood of the claim. The claimant may be a charlatan, mentally disturbed, or indeed an emissary of the divine. What really matters is that the claimant and his claim serve the cause of the good for all of mankind and completely shun causing contention and strife among people.

The moment a religious founder begins claiming special privileges for himself and his followers, he launches a discriminating totalitarianism. This is indeed the case with Islam. Even a cursory glance at Islam’s past, as well as its present, establishes unequivocally its discriminating totalitarianism nature.

Islam is out of control fire and the jihadists are its arsonists. The generality of Muslims do their part by spreading throughout the world and setting up the conditions that would welcome the arsonists, feed and shelter them, and support them in igniting the Islamic fire.

This is exactly what is happening all over Europe where the naïve natives have deluded themselves into the fraud of multiculturalism. A generous social entitlement system in Europe, well-paying job opportunities, and higher standards of living are magnets to the horde of Muslims fleeing Islamic failed states. Ironically, these same Muslim expatriates quickly forget why they had to leave their miserable plights in their homelands and what the main cause of their misery is. The culprit is the pathological nihilistic belief of never-mind-this-world and do Allah’s biding for gaining admission to his unimaginably magnificent pleasure paradise of the afterlife.

Islam believes in the rule of Islam, Caliphate to the Sunnis and Imamate to the Shias. Hence, to Muslims, all other forms of governments represent the handiwork of the Satan and the infidels. Therefore, one and all non-Islamic systems of government must be purified by the Islamic fire.

But marrying religion with government is stoking fire with explosive. In free democracies, governments are accountable to the people and serve at people’s pleasure. In Islamic theocracy, governments are accountable only to Allah and the people must serve at the pleasure of the government. And one can see the result of Islamic total or partial rule in eighteen or so countries which rank among the highest nations of the world on every index of misery.

The Islamic fire fueled by immense oil income is raging in certain regions of the world, smoldering in others, and ready to ignite in yet other parts of the world. It is imperative for the free people of the world to abandon all illusions about Islam and put out its fire, once and for all. Multiculturalism, let-and-let live, is a delusion of kind-hearted naïve people. Islam, as fractured as it is, is a non-compromising mono-culture: a cruel culture of a primitive people handed down to Muhammad some 1400 years ago.

Secularists and most non-Muslim religious people respect the legitimate rights of the religionists, whereas Muslims recognize little or no rights for others. You can readily establish the validity of this assertion by looking at some eighteen or so Islamic countries such as Saudi Arabia, Iran, Afghanistan, Pakistan, and so on.

Warning to free men and women: remain a spectator at your own peril. It is imperative that you take a stand and do your part at falsifying the fraud of Islam and do all you can to prevent the Islamic fire from devouring our civilized democratic secular system.

Here is a parable for you:

They were imprisoned for a crime they did not commit. Their captors would not reveal the crimes for which they had been incarcerated but kept the prisoners anyway. They were allowed to have the basic things they needed for survival, but mostly they were tormented and treated terribly.

They were made to feel inadequate by constant criticism and become fearful and unsure of their real identity and place in the world and they were ridiculed for making mistakes.

They were given conflicting messages from those who held them and they were held back from everything they ever wanted in life.

Some were isolated and alone while others were kept in groups of other prisoners who would do them harm or exploit their weaknesses. They became more hopeless and disillusioned as time went on and they pitied themselves and took out their frustrations on those around them.

Some wanted to die while others carried on struggling with their life in captivity.

They were the Human Race and their captors were their Mind.

Since birth, we have been bombarded with messages both overt and subliminal, by almost everyone and everything we ever came into contact with motley religious beliefs. This has shaped our feelings, habits and our beliefs system. However misguided.

We are imprisoned by how we experience the world. You experience the world through the limitations of your thoughts and deny ourselves the glorious Technicolor possibilities of seeing the world through a mind that is free.

Think of your dreams for a moment. There are no restrictions on you when you are dreaming. You are able to transcend all known logic and reason and enter into worlds that are uniquely created by you and your thoughts. Life can be lived without the rules you have learned but not born with.

If you want to be free, you need to choose to change and you need to choose to be free. You must choose to learn about freedom and you must choose to learn about change.

When you think differently, you behave differently and when this happens, your brain alters it's chemical balance and starts to create a completely different universe right before your very eyes.

Why all of that is important? because when for example you say you'r a Christian or Moslem or jew... you really are not, are you?? no, you were born into it or may be you adopted it during your the course of your life... you did not experience it, you just bought into some other thoughts.. and that is all they are thoughts with no validation points. You have joined a club, that is all. God has nothing to do with religion. God needs no worshipers, no donations, no killing... because God is not your ego. Someone else made God in the image of their own Ego and you have been born into it or bought into it.

God lives in all of us, in everything we see and experience. Not in a set of rules and regulations. How demoniacal it is to such an infinite power and love to assume that he is ready to punish his children if they don't worship him. He cares not for that but he cares for us. God can not be found in darkness of murders, robbery, greed and egotistical instructions. God is in everything and everyone, you diminish one life, you diminish God.

Be honorable, have reverence for all life forms and respect the dignity of humanity and God will show up at your door step with open arm saying "welcome home my child".