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off course it is, Zionism is what defis being an Israeli, it is Zionism that created israel and it is Zionism that is sustaining israelOriginally posted by RedWine View Post
In the case of Israel, since its existence in 1948, whoever governs in Israel, the policy is more or less influenced by Zionist ambitions.
Zionism says jews have an ancestral claim to the land, from a religious perspective and from a anthropology perspective wich is true by having jewish community's in current israel long before the creation of israel and mass migration of jews to the region.Originally posted by RedWine View PostZionism propagates the idea that the whole region is the sacred homeland of Jews, where allegedly the early Jewish nation originated over 3,200 years ago.
And even thoug it does jews do agree that they one day used to live in the entire region no serious Zionist has that ambition or wants that ambition, remeber the zionist celebrated having just the desert and telaviv
Zionism is a political movement in the region, as with any other political movement you have both conservatives interpretation and liberal interpretationOriginally posted by RedWine View PostZionism is a fundamentalist ideology in the region.
only ultra orthodox religious jews believe such a thing and even than they belive that taking the land before messiah comes is wrong, even so it is an extremely small amountOriginally posted by RedWine View PostIt goes so far that it claims the entire Palestine.
what violated UN mandate was not recognizing the state of israelOriginally posted by RedWine View PostIt violates the UN mandate of 1947 dividing Palestine into two independent states.
and constant aggression towards the state to get rite of it from the beginnings of 1947 resolutions and even belfour resolution
Druze, Muslims, anti Zionist, bedowins, bahais and Christians who live under the jurisdiction of the Zionist state, all enjoy a socialist approach to life which includes free education, medical, retirement,Originally posted by RedWine View PostZionism explicitly ignores the rights of many vibrant communities who have been living there during the last 3000 years.
even though only a secular state will work in the regionOriginally posted by RedWine View PostThe international community must help Palestine to attend its deserved rights of independence, while rejecting any God’s state in the region. The plague of Islamism in Palestine was reborn with Hamas, founded in 1987 in Gaza by late Shaikh Ahmad Jassin and started its existence with its jihadi attacks on both military and civil targets in Israel.
It is not the job of the UN to say what kind of a state should be their that is up to the Palestinians if they want a g-d state or a secular state
the lack of international concsensus to legitimately fight Palestinian terror can be intrepid as a green light for Palestinians to fight there war of terror agains IsraelOriginally posted by RedWine View PostIt is ...... If this conflict is to be stopped, the international community must defend the historically rights of Palestinians to install their UN proposed state. The Lack of an international consensus can be interpreted as a green light to continue the conflict.
the same so called Zionist regime that is being bashed here, has enforced and taken out illegal out post building on Palestinian land by IsraelisOriginally posted by RedWine View PostWhat concerns Israel and Palestine, a durably peaceful co-existence of all peoples in the region can be guaranteed when only the democrats and seculars are the official peace-makers of both sides. Zionism and Islamism cannot narrow down their differences.
it has given back GAZA
it has recognized the PLO
it has given self rule over west bank
and a great majority of the people who elected it are willing to make more sacrifices to see a two state solution and all of this is becuase the jewish Zionist state of Israel has been ran democratically by a moral people.Last edited by mike435; 02-06-2008, 11:50 PM.
G-d determines who walks into your life....It is up to you to decide who you let walk away, who you let stay, and who you refuse to let go.
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To redwine
I have always admired your centered left leaning position, and becuase of it you have a lot of credibility even though you usually just post articles
and i wouldn't write this if this time you had also "just posted an article"
but this time you have posted an article that you endorsed with your thumbs up
an article that seems exaggerated at least on it cratiuqe on the Zionism and Israel.
and becuase of it exaggeration and false facts about Zionism i dont know how well it reported on the other side and becuase of that the things written about the other side is moste likely exaggerated and false.
G-d determines who walks into your life....It is up to you to decide who you let walk away, who you let stay, and who you refuse to let go.
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Dear Mike .Originally posted by mike435 View PostTo redwine
I have always admired your centered left leaning position, and becuase of it you have a lot of credibility even though you usually just post articles
and i wouldn't write this if this time you had also "just posted an article"
but this time you have posted an article that you endorsed with your thumbs up
an article that seems exaggerated at least on it cratiuqe on the Zionism and Israel.
and becuase of it exaggeration and false facts about Zionism i dont know how well it reported on the other side and becuase of that the things written about the other side is moste likely exaggerated and false.
What you was thinking about me ? i repeat: I don't care Zionist and neither Islamist,Palestianian and etc ... I just care about my 'Country' and my 'ppl' .
As i said before for many and many times,If you like any of those articles of this section,don't read them ! don't answer them ! Our forum is an independent Forum withe an independent rules !
Thank you for your attention .
End Of Subject .
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i know you dont and what makes you credebilOriginally posted by RedWine View PostDear Mike .
What you was thinking about me ? i repeat: I don't care Zionist and neither Islamist,Palestianian and etc ... I just care about my 'Country' and my 'ppl' .
As i said before for many and many times,If you like any of those articles of this section,don't read them ! don't answer them ! Our forum is an independent Forum withe an independent rules !
Thank you for your attention .
End Of Subject .
but when you put the plus sigh next to the article i took that as a sighn that you had read the article and agreed with it
G-d determines who walks into your life....It is up to you to decide who you let walk away, who you let stay, and who you refuse to let go.
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