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RedWine
01-06-2006, 10:27 AM
Racism refers to beliefs, practices, and institutions that discriminate against people based on their perceived or ascribed "race". Primarily, it refers to an assumption that the human species can meaningfully be divided into races, together with hostility to people of certain races or a belief, conscious or unconscious, that people of different races differ in value. Some people whose thinking about others uses racial categories believe that different races can be placed on a ranked, hierarchical scale.

However, some commentators on racism use the idea more narrowly to refer to a system of oppression — a nexus of racist beliefs, whether explicit, tacit or unconscious; practices; organizations and institutions that combine to discriminate against and socially marginalize a class of people who share a common racial designation. For these commentators, "racism" as a term is usefully applied only to the dominant group in a society, because it is that group which has the means to oppress others. The backlash from weaker groups with what would be described, on a broader conception, as "racist" beliefs or attitudes are said display "racial prejudice", but it is not theoretically appropriate to refer to them as "racist" or as displaying "racism". In short, this view limits racism to the effective repression of “racial” groups due to racial prejudice.

On any plausible conception of racism, it usually results in the social, political, and economic advantage of one group in relation to others.

Since the last quarter of the 20th century, there have been few in developed nations who describe themselves as racist, so that identification of a group or person as racist is nearly always controversial. Racism is regarded by many as an affront to basic human dignity and a violation of human rights. A number of international treaties have sought to end racism. The United Nations uses a definition of racist discrimination laid out in the International Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Racial Discrimination and adopted in 1966:

...any distinction, exclusion, restriction or preference based on race, colour, descent, or national or ethnic origin which has the purpose or effect of nullifying or impairing the recognition, enjoyment or exercise, on an equal footing, of human rights and fundamental freedoms in the political, economic, social, cultural or any other field of public life.

In some countries, accusations of racism are alleged to be used by supporters of cultural relativism and political correctness to stigmatise their adversaries due to the association between racism and extreme violence in parts of the twentieth century.

Racism by country
In 19th century Europe and America, some scientists developed various theories about biological differences among races, and these theories were in turn used to legitimize racist beliefs and practices. Much of this work has since been rejected by the scientific community as flawed and even as pseudoscience.

Today there are some scientists who claim that "race", in the general sense in which the term is used, is a social construct: the way in which individuals are classified into racial groups varies from person to person, and from place to place, and from time to time. These scientists say that superficial characteristics which are associated with racial groupings are poor predictors of genetic variability. There can be more genetic variation within a racial grouping than between two racial groupings. They also point to the lack of well-defined boundaries to racial classifications; for example characteristics such as skin colour and facial appearance can be shown to vary as a continuum from place to place. Other scientists counter that "sex" and "species" are likewise seen by some as socially constructed. After all, humans and chimpanzees (or males and females) are far more genetically alike than different. According to this view, categories need not be absolute in order to have scientific utility.

Australia.Austria.Canada.Finland.France.Germany.In dia.Italy.Netherlands.United Kingdom.United States of America.Switzerland.Sweden.always have problem with racism.

What you think about that ?

Cop
01-06-2006, 10:43 AM
vala iraniha hamashoon racist hastan :p

khanoomi
01-06-2006, 11:43 AM
loooooooooool @ cop

IQ
01-07-2006, 01:07 AM
vala iraniha hamashoon racist hastan :p


that's so true. you are right mostly persians are racist.

Cop
01-07-2006, 01:07 AM
har kas zade nooooo alaki khodesho goool zaddddddde

IQ
01-07-2006, 01:10 AM
roo dar vaasi daarand yaa siyaasat madaaran. :)

Cop
01-07-2006, 01:11 AM
are dige :D hhar kas be khosssoosss iraniha bayad hade aghal ye khorde racist tooye vojooodeshoon bashhhhhhhhhhe no matter whatttttt

IQ
01-07-2006, 01:15 AM
btw how r u ?
long time no talk.

Cop
01-07-2006, 01:17 AM
man khobam jiiiiiiiiigarrrrr to chetori? kam peydaa? chi kara az khodet dar vakoni? :p

Snow
01-07-2006, 02:29 AM
irania hicham racist nistan, kheiky jealous hastan, chesh nadaran behtar az khodeshoono bebinan, dalil bar racist boodaneshoon nemishe, jam nabandin lotfan, kheily behem bar khord :D :D lol

bahsam lotfan nakonin ba man, HAMIN KE GOFTAM :D :cool:

DariushM
01-07-2006, 02:35 AM
man ham irani hastam
az kasi ham jealous nistam:)

DariushM
01-07-2006, 02:37 AM
ma persian ha mecle hame race haye dige bad o khoobemoon ro darim
ba in hal be nazare man tanha adamhaye hesabi ye too middle east persian ha hastan

RedWine
01-07-2006, 07:08 AM
Inkeh ma iruniha racism hastim ya nah,bayad begam keh hastim ! nabayad az hagh va haghighat gozasht !

Ageh ye khareji beh maha begeh keh arabim,enghadar behemoon bar mikhoreh keh engari fohsh khar madar behemoon dadan ! afghaniha tooyeh iran hamisheh moredeh azar va aziateh iruniha boodan. khodemoon ro joda az hameh midoonim va fekr mikonim keh az hameh behtar hastim !

Ta yek andazei ham Snow dorost migeh ! hasood ham hastim vali man bishtar nazaram ineh keh,az khodemoon beporsim keh chera beh in shekl hastim ! uni keh tehroonieh lajeh ba uni keh tork hast. hata torkeh tabriz dava dareh ba torkeh ardebil ya zanjan !!! in ro kam misheh jaei did ! moshkel jayeh digast ! moshkel tooyeh adab va tarbiateh mahast nah chizeh digeh !

khanoomi
01-07-2006, 07:22 AM
man ba redwin movafegham
che ajab dariush

Cop
01-07-2006, 09:46 AM
Snow pas boro booooooooogh bezannnnn :p

jsmith
01-07-2006, 09:50 AM
man fekr nemikonam ke racist basham, yani kasi ro maskhare nemikonam, vali age yeki peida beshe ke racist bashe va kheili bad zedde bavar haye man harf bezane va maskhare bekone.... oon moghe shayad basham, (chon pedaresho ham dar miaram..... na be khatere inke zedde man harf bezane, be khatere maskhare kardane mardome dige......)

khanoomi
01-07-2006, 10:17 AM
loooooool @cop snow boro bogh bezan :)

green_president2004
01-07-2006, 10:29 AM
man ke racism nistam faghat motenaferam az arabha az afrighihayy az amricayha az germaniha az afghaniha ,faghat az khodam khosham miad inke racist nemishe ha? na engar az khdam ham badam miad ,pas mishe
jk

Parinaz_M
01-07-2006, 10:32 AM
green joon ye chand ta mamlekate dige ham ezafe mikardi be listet

green_president2004
01-07-2006, 11:01 AM
yadam raft dige khodetoon ezafe konid

Snow
01-07-2006, 11:42 AM
looool Cop, chie javab nadari bedi, migi boro boogh bezan, lol ;) bacheeee poroooo :D :D

Parinaz_M
01-07-2006, 11:54 AM
khob boro boogh bezan bache delesh nasooze

Michellica
01-07-2006, 01:24 PM
I confess..altough I am always against racism sometimes I am provoked by "racist feelings" inside of me sometimes....but I can control them :)

koh
01-07-2006, 01:28 PM
ba salam
agar hame iraniha racistan pas man irani nistam chon aslan az nasionalistha ham hatta badam miad che berese be racista

jsmith
01-07-2006, 03:06 PM
ba salam
agar hame iraniha racistan pas man irani nistam chon aslan az nasionalistha ham hatta badam miad che berese be racista

in ke goftiii yani che??? haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa:smt066

soniq
01-07-2006, 05:07 PM
im not racist,i got black friends,white friends,chinese friends,jew friends,shie friends,sonny friends,bahai friends,shahanshahi friends,jomhoori eslami friends,non political friends,war supporting friends,antiwar friends........u name it Fuk racism

IQ
01-07-2006, 05:55 PM
SO DO I BUT YOU THINK ABOUT THEM THE SAME. YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO UP TO THEM AND SAY IT YOU CAN SAY IT TO YOURSELF. LIKE fCUK THESE ***** you know. ;) i think everybody is racist if you look at it.

khanoomi
01-07-2006, 07:00 PM
looooooooooooool IQ

IQ
01-07-2006, 10:58 PM
SO DO I, BUT YOU THINK ABOUT THEM THE SAME? YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO UP TO THEM AND SAY IT YOU CAN SAY IT TO YOURSELF. LIKE fCUK THESE ***** you know. ;) i think everybody is racist if you look at it................................................ ...................

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DariushM
01-07-2006, 11:18 PM
to boro ba EDITED bazi bokon
khaste ham shodi EDITED :)

RedWine
01-08-2006, 07:27 AM
loool DariushM . beh har hal maha (iruniha) beh racism beineh asia mianeh va joonoobeh asia va khavar mianeh marufim ! enghadar keh ma az araba bad migim va harf mizanim,unha aslan kari beh maha nadaran va dar moredeh maha harfi nemizanan !

khanoomi
01-08-2006, 08:03 AM
looooooooool Dariush bi adab shodia

Cop
01-08-2006, 10:44 AM
lol in 10 nafar ke goftan noooooooo vaghe'an nemidonan racism chiye.
racist hastid dige hey nemikhad goole khodetoon bezanid ke nistid :p JIIGARA

khanoomi
01-08-2006, 11:08 AM
eeeee cop poste dariusho edit kardi

RedWine
06-23-2006, 02:09 PM
new users,vote pls ;) .

aliamer3425
06-24-2006, 02:14 PM
vala iraniha hamashoon racist hastan :p
=D> =D> =D> =D>

RedWine
07-11-2006, 09:37 AM
Are you a racist?

Steps

Do you hate people with a different skin color than your own?

Do you find yourself judging what people are wearing, how they are wearing their hair that is a different race than you, and all the thoughts are negative?

Are you afraid to be around people that are not of the same race that you are.

Do you ever crack racial slurs, jokes or try to exclude people of other races.



Tips

Try spending time learning cultures of other races to be more devoloped and open to other ways and styles.



Warnings

Do not let others label you as racist, due to how you talk, where you are from or what you enjoy.

mahsa88
07-11-2006, 10:12 AM
one thing im sure abt myself is that IM NOT RACIST,,,it dissgusssts me,,,COP u mite be racist, bt im not and khodamo GOOL nemizanam!!!plz jam naband...
no i dnt hate it when ppl call me arab,,,actually ppl usually think im Afghan cuz my surname is "Afaghi", and i dnt get offended when im calld afghan arab, or what eva,,, ona ham mese iran ye keshvaran...
and how most persians think, iran behtarin keshvare in middle east, thats just from our point of view...
man shakhsan be har adami az har keshvari ke hast ehteram mizaram...hala nemidonam age baz racist hesab misham ya na!!!
by the way i wuznt like this till 2yrs ago, i chnged, n im proud of it :D

RedWine
07-11-2006, 11:13 AM
one thing im sure abt myself is that IM NOT RACIST,,,it dissgusssts me,,,COP u mite be racist, bt im not and khodamo GOOL nemizanam!!!plz jam naband...
no i dnt hate it when ppl call me arab,,,actually ppl usually think im Afghan cuz my surname is "Afaghi", and i dnt get offended when im calld afghan arab, or what eva,,, ona ham mese iran ye keshvaran...
and how most persians think, iran behtarin keshvare in middle east, thats just from our point of view...
man shakhsan be har adami az har keshvari ke hast ehteram mizaram...hala nemidonam age baz racist hesab misham ya na!!!
by the way i wuznt like this till 2yrs ago, i chnged, n im proud of it :D

Eh,,, ino hameh migoftan ! chand sal digeh nazaret avaz misheh !

abadani69
07-11-2006, 11:29 AM
I consider Siamak as a Racist :D

donsaeid
07-11-2006, 11:30 AM
Me too :D

purrsian_cat
07-11-2006, 12:39 PM
lol 8 people said yes ??!!

I love all races... speciallly black, asian, mediteranean etc etc... but i must confess:

I HATE british people. so maybe i am a little racist... lol but they arent important.

jsmith
07-11-2006, 12:40 PM
yani che aslan in racistiiii.....be khatere in cherto perta bebinin italia che balasi sare zeydane bichare avord......:(

purrsian_cat
07-11-2006, 12:51 PM
huh???? '' me no underrrr-e-stand vat you saying''
lol

jsmith
07-11-2006, 02:59 PM
me no eeengeeRiish........me no language....vat cho'say???????lol

mahsa88
07-11-2006, 10:57 PM
loool dani,,,,REDDY nnemidonam shayad nazaram dobare avaz she nesbat be race aye mardom!!! ama khoda nakooone...khieli az racist bazi alan badam miad

jsmith
07-12-2006, 09:43 AM
manam omidvaram ke nazaram avaz nashe...lol...:)

purrsian_cat
07-12-2006, 01:11 PM
me no eeengeeRiish........me no language....vat cho'say???????lol

lol jsmith

vat you say? ar you ferom Emmm-rik-aaa ? vich lan-goo-ige is ziss? I speee-king no Emmm-rik-aaaan lan-goo-ige.

Me speeee-king Eng-lissss lan-goo-ige very very goot.

jsmith
07-12-2006, 01:13 PM
lol zahra....YOUUUU espeeek eengiiriiish beTTer THAN ME EENGRIISH......ME IS CITIZEN>>>ME AAMEEERIIICAAAAn....lol...jk...;)

purrsian_cat
07-12-2006, 01:15 PM
LOL kheili bahali

nakone CITIZEN hasti...

jsmith
07-12-2006, 01:17 PM
lol......

oslonor
07-18-2006, 10:09 PM
Do you think Hollywood uses Racism?

Oliver Stone "Alexander" and Persians in Hollywood

Rosari Dawson plays Roxxana the Persian Princess ia in "Alexander" by Oliver Stone. She is partly african. Rosari Dawson is supposed to play a Persian girl similar to Shermine Shahrivar who was Miss Germany in 2005. In reality Roxxana was a Persian princess from Sogdia and who may have been as blond as Alexander as she was a north eastern Persian Princess. Why a partly African actor plays a Persian girl? Are Africans some way related to Persians. As we will see Hollywood thinks so.

Hollywood Mixes up two different ethnic groups in Iran and present Azeris as Persians.

Slide show on Persians and Azeri and afghans.

Persians
http://www.flickr.com/photos/20363431@N00/sets/72057594116581341/show/

Azeri
http://www.flickr.com/photos/20363431@N00/sets/72057594116588250/show/

Afghan
http://www.flickr.com/photos/20363431@N00/sets/72057594116574438/show/


More on Persians and Hollywood
http://oslonor.blogspot.com/

RedWine
10-01-2006, 01:22 PM
New users vote pls :=)

shazz
10-01-2006, 02:46 PM
irania hicham racist nistan, kheiky jealous hastan, chesh nadaran behtar az khodeshoono bebinan, dalil bar racist boodaneshoon nemishe, jam nabandin lotfan, kheily behem bar khord :D :D lol

bahsam lotfan nakonin ba man, HAMIN KE GOFTAM :D :cool:
Nakheyr Bayad Begam HamaShoon Racist Hastan,Mitunam Sabet Konam...U Vaghti Ye Afghani Mibini...Kheili Bahash Friendly Hasti?

oslonor
10-01-2006, 02:51 PM
I think the correct question is if Hollywood is racist or not?

mahsa88
10-01-2006, 06:49 PM
em, i dno if hollywoods racist or nt, bt i hate "alexander teh great" movie...itz all crap...persianz o every 2min barberianz seda mikone, va vaghty jang mikardan persian empire o mese ahmagha nehsoon midad, chador ro sareshon bood...i dnt knw much abt the persian history (perhapz i shud start readng abt it) bt one thng im sure abt, irani ke tooneste enghad keshvar goshayi kone, yani faghat ba chobo, chador roo sareshon tonestan in hame jang konano bebaran!!! cherte filmessh!!!...

Shazz excuseme, yeh i do have afghan freinds, indian, asian, ozi, etc...kamtarin doostam hamin irani hastan...i aint racist :@:@:@

xavier
10-07-2006, 01:15 AM
ba arze salaam, be hameye dustan dr in frum

Aval raje be racist budan iraniha, ba tavojoh be tajrobe zendgi boland modat da kharej az iran bayesti begam ke hadaghal iranihaii ke tuye eruop zendegi mikonand Racist nistand albateh nesbate be kharejiha. vali nesbat be iraniha ye hese bartari darand ke in bartari ra nesbet be baghiye mikhahand neshun bedand. masalan kheili etefagh miofte ke masaln chand ta irani momkene ke zan o shohar bashand, ya inke chand ta dust va dar hal sohbat kardan satand sarii ta mibinan ke momken shoma ke dar hale obur hastid dige ba ham sohbat nemikonand be farsi, ya inke ba ye zabun digeii ba ham sohbat mikonan. yanii nemikhand neshun bedan ke irani hastand. masalan tuye in keshvarhaye scandinvia rasm bar in bud ke iranihaye ke ye meghdar ghadimi budand iranihaye jadidi ra ke be in keshvarha miyamadand ahvil nemigereftand ya inke aslan mahal nemigozashtand. albate tuye dahye 80 hamchenin mariizi vojud nadasht. in maraz ba shorue dahye 90 aghaz shod ke hamchenan edame darad. ye hese bartari juii dareshan be vojud umadeh albate faght nesbat be iranihaye dige, ke un ham nashi az sarkhordegii ejtemaii ast ke dar an zendegii mikonand. Albate mogheye ke ma az racist sohbat mikonim bayesti vaghan an ra be surat amali did ke ensan be darke amighe an beresad. Racism tuye keshvarhaye kuchiki mesle Finland moshkelmoezal kheili az kharejiha ast va an ra mishavad be vozuh did. aksar anha hidden racist hastand yanii racist hastand vali an ra neshun nemidand. maslan tuye outobus agar ye sandali khali bashad hame sar pa vai misatand vali hichkas ruye sandali baghalat nemishine. ya maslan tuye 20 mosahebeye karii miri vali hichkodam ra ghabul nemishe, ya inke agar business mizani chon kahrejii hasti moshtarii ziyadin nadari... in raicsim ast. Iraniha Racisim nistand... Iraniha hese bartarijui bikhodi darand nesbate be baghiye iraniha. maslan yadam ye serii tehraniha ke tuye shahrii ke man budam be baghiye migoftand ke inha faghat iranihaye asil hastand va migofatnd ke unha Fars hastand va baghiye az lor, bakhtiyari, turk, arab irani, baluch va ghyre be khatere zabaneshan masalan irani dareje dovom hastand... albate mishe kheili ruye in masale bahs kard, vali baraye kasi ke mighezeshan be andazeye nokhod kuchik bud bahse bifaydeh....
jaleb inke hamin afrad tuye shabhye frhangi miran baryae hamin afrad bumi ke tuye in keshvar shahrvand hastand sherhaye ferdosii ra ke migoft: BANI ADAM AZAYE YEK DIGRAND KE DAR AFARINESH ZE YEK GOHRAND mikhundand va tarjome mikardand. vali hamin aghayun ba irani ham jense khodeshun salam nemikonand.

RedWine
03-08-2007, 07:43 AM
new opinions... ?!