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RedWine
06-15-2006, 07:23 AM
Everyone has to follow their own spiritual path. It's a personal choice that others may have difficulty understanding. This is especially true for parents who follow one path and their child or children follow another. And while these steps do not guarantee that your parents will approve of your religion (nothing can guarantee that) following these steps assure that you have done your best to inform your parents in an intelligent, and most importantly, adult, manner of your personal religious choices.
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Steps

Wait. This is to assure you are secure in your religious preferences. Six months or so should do it.
Use the waiting time to do your research.
Start a journal to keep notes in regarding your spirituality. Include any questions you may have and the reasons why
Discover what you can about your chosen path. Is it monotheistic (worshipping only one deity) or polytheistic (worshipping multiple deities)? Are there any notable people in history that have worshipped as you do?
Search online for forums, etc. to find others who believe as you do. A good place to start is Beliefnet.
Purchase (if you can) a number of books about your religion. Just be sure to keep them in a place where your parents won't find them until you're ready.
Gather the notes you have collected over the last six months and organize your thoughts. You may have to re-write what you have written to assure that you have a solid foundation from which to discuss religion with your parents.
Ask your parents why they believe what they do.
Listen carefully.
Reaffirm where you agree with them.
Ask questions where you disagree.
Place the notes of this conversation into your journal.
Review your journal again. Is there anything in there that would be a good starting point for conversation? Look for similarities between your chosen religion and your parents religion. Especially points that specifically emphasize why your parents believe as they do. Thus prepared, you are ready for an intelligent conversation with your parents.
Tell your parents you have something important to discuss with them and you'll need some time to do it. Make sure that they are allowed to choose the time when this discussion is to take place.
Breathe, meditate, and ask your personal deity or deities for guidance.
Tell your parents you have been researching diverse religions. Watch for their response, if it is shocked or angry, tread carefully and discuss any concerns they may have about your researching religions. If it is curious or downright joyful, proceed with the next step.
Ask your parents what they know about your chosen religion.
Listen carefully to what they say.
Clear up any confusion they may have.
Keep up this back and forth of asking, listening, and responding until you are sure they understand your spiritual choice.
Tell your parents this is the religious path you have decided to follow. What happens from here is up to them.

Tips

If Christianity is not your religion of choice, don't be discouraged by the appearance of Beliefnet as this site covers a wide array of religions outside of the traditional Judeo-Christian. There are even forums focusing on every topic including, but not limited to Buddhism, Islamic, and even Earth-based pagan religions (such as Wicca and Druidic). Just click on "More Religions" if you don't see your religion of choice right away.
If you're unable to purchase the books you want, try the library, but do not go there without knowing which books, specifically, that you want. (Librarians are more than willing to help you locate a section that may include what you seek, or can point you to a particular author.)
If the guidance you receive from your personal deity or deities contradicts the steps listed in here, by all means follow that advice.
More often than not, you will find one parent is more open-minded to your spiritual path. If you can, pull this parent aside and ask him or her how best to approach the other parent. Assure them that persuading the other parent to accept your path is something you choose to do and you do not wish to drive a wedge between the two of them.

Warnings

Leaving books lying around in the hopes that your parents will find them is a surefire way to assure you get sideswiped with questions you are unprepared to answer.
Do not limit your resources to Beliefnet alone, as the discussions here only cover the mere surfaces of religious chat. While a great place to start, you'll need more than that in order to have an intelligent conversation with your parents.
Keeping your books in your school locker carries its own set of risks, especially if you go to a public school. Place a bookcover on them to avert immediate detection in case of random locker checks.
In the off chance you are confronted before you are ready, do not lie to your parents. This will only backfire and make it seem as if your religious choice "approves of that kind of behavior."
Despite all the best preparations in the world, some parents simply won't accept their child's chosen religion. If this is the case, simply understand it for what it is, an inability to accept the religion, not you personally.
Religious discussions can easily get out of hand no matter how much you plan. If you notice this happening, feel free to say "Perhaps we should discuss this later as it seems I am unable to keep my cool right now." Say this even, and especially, if you were the one keeping your temper in check. This squashes any off-topic battles before they begin.
Don't preach. This is doubly so if the religion of your choice advocates it. Remember, your parents have been following their religious path much longer than you have. Making them change their mind is far less likely than you changing your mind about your path. If you show you can accept their choice, they will be far more likely to accept yours.
Some parents will not accept your religious path no matter what you do. In this case, I suggest reading Make Your Parents Love You for Who You Are for further advice and suggestions.
Make sure you have the facts about your religious choices straight. Religion is not about the clothes you wear, the jewelry, converting others, or intimidating others. Wicca has nothing to do with creating fear of spells or using religion to intimidate people- it specifically teaches against it. Christianity also seeks to help others, not condemn them. Question the motives of anyone that tells you otherwise. Do not use your religion (Wicca, Christianity, Islam, Judiasm- whatever) as a cover for fashion statements, drug use, or criminal behavior. Your parents would rightfully oppose it!


Things You'll Need

Something you can use as a journal. A notebook and pen should do it. A traditional diary (complete with lock and key) can be even better.

donsaeid
06-15-2006, 09:34 AM
First take out a life-insurance and write down your will :D after that can you tell them...

but i dont think any persian parent will aprove that.. if they dont say anything and just tell you that it is your life, that will kill them from inside if they care about you at all...

RedWine
06-15-2006, 10:18 AM
First take out a life-insurance and write down your will :D after that can you tell them...

but i dont think any persian parent will aprove that.. if they dont say anything and just tell you that it is your life, that will kill them from inside if they care about you at all...

You are wrong pesar-e khoub ;) . i met 3 persian families which aproved that :) .

Sepideh_UK
06-15-2006, 10:33 AM
Na Saeed.
intory nist hamishe.
Man babamo mamanam, vaghty ke man shoro kardam mature shodam, una mano neshundan, goftan ok Sepideh, in din ha hastan, baram tozih dadan har chi dar baraash midunestan, goftan dar bareye har kodoum tahghigh kon, khodet befahm dar bareye din haye mokhtalef !!
Baraye hamin man fekr mikonam irania bishtariashun roshan fekran;)

RedWine
06-15-2006, 10:42 AM
Na Saeed.
intory nist hamishe.
Man babamo mamanam, vaghty ke man shoro kardam mature shodam, una mano neshundan, goftan ok Sepideh, in din ha hastan, baram tozih dadan har chi dar baraash midunestan, goftan dar bareye har kodoum tahghigh kon, khodet befahm dar bareye din haye mokhtalef !!
Baraye hamin man fekr mikonam irania bishtariashun roshan fekran;)

eyval maman va babayeh shoma ;) .

Saeid,ye vaghtaei sakht migiri in chiza ro ! nemidunam chera ! in hameh to ba houshi va havaset jame ! nemidunam chera enghadar esrar dari touyeh in masael !

Sepideh_UK
06-15-2006, 10:51 AM
Mersi Redwine:p
Nemidounam. man ke intory bozorg shodam va benazare man kheily raveshe khubie ke manam be bache ham dar ayande migam!!:smt024

donsaeid
06-15-2006, 11:23 AM
Ravesheshon ke mashallah kheili khobe. va bachehaye man bayad khodeshon entekhab konan. onvaghte ke they are a truely believers.

ama say konim az tehran(khanevadehaye gheire mazhabi) va iraniaye khareje keshvar biron fekr konim. masalan to beri be ye khanevade ke tamame omresh hosseinie, fatemie, ect rafte. namazeshon ghaza nemishe va onvaght pesare ya dokhtare in khanevade bege man masihi ya zartoshti ya yahodi ya bahai shodam... onvaght khodeton fekr konid chi migan?

donsaeid
06-15-2006, 11:26 AM
eyval maman va babayeh shoma ;) .

Saeid,ye vaghtaei sakht migiri in chiza ro ! nemidunam chera ! in hameh to ba houshi va havaset jame ! nemidunam chera enghadar esrar dari touyeh in masael !

hehe... bahse sakht giri nist... vagheiate dakhele shahrestan va dehate irane. bazia migan moteasefane bazia migan khoshbakhtane. Filme "behind the sun" ro didin? dar morede yek javone egypti hast ke mire US onja masihi mishe va mikhad ye safar bere keshvaresh va etefaghati ke barash miofte.

kholase moteasefane to in donya Tolerance baraye taghirat va motefavet kardan va ehteram baraye eteghadate mardom kame...

RedWine
06-15-2006, 11:26 AM
Ravesheshon ke mashallah kheili khobe. va bachehaye man bayad khodeshon entekhab konan. onvaghte ke they are a truely believers.

ama say konim az tehran(khanevadehaye gheire mazhabi) va iraniaye khareje keshvar biron fekr konim. masalan to beri be ye khanevade ke tamame omresh hosseinie, fatemie, ect rafte. namazeshon ghaza nemishe va onvaght pesare ya dokhtare in khanevade bege man masihi ya zartoshti ya yahodi ya bahai shodam... onvaght khodeton fekr konid chi migan?

To mesleh man mimouni ! foudt dari keh mardom ba dalil va madrak harf bezanan va in kheili khoubeh !

Moteasefaneh agar hamchin chizi pish biad dar Iran, un khunevadeh moshkel khahad dasht ba ghavanineh eslami ! beh hamin dalil,nemitounim befahmim keh agar kasi in kar ro kardeh dar Iran ya nah !

Daram tahghigh mikonam,bebinam kasi boudeh az in nazar dar Iran ya nah !

donsaeid
06-15-2006, 11:28 AM
You are wrong pesar-e khoub ;) . i met 3 persian families which aproved that :) .

i have met iranian families accepting that. i have even met iranian families accepting their child being gay/lesbian. BUT i have met hundered cases of problem too. soo it is getting better but the culture for accepting choices of children still needs alot of working. toam pesare khobi hasti :goodman:

donsaeid
06-15-2006, 11:31 AM
To mesleh man mimouni ! foudt dari keh mardom ba dalil va madrak harf bezanan va in kheili khoubeh !

Moteasefaneh agar hamchin chizi pish biad dar Iran, un khunevadeh moshkel khahad dasht ba ghavanineh eslami ! beh hamin dalil,nemitounim befahmim keh agar kasi in kar ro kardeh dar Iran ya nah !

Daram tahghigh mikonam,bebinam kasi boudeh az in nazar dar Iran ya nah !

i know alot of cases and some accepting and some have been thrown in jail by family. It is not Islamic Roles. It is the fanatic Role and religious fasicsm. ;)
Islam is all about tolerance and respecting individual choices. ;)

RedWine
06-15-2006, 11:32 AM
Islam is all about tolerance and respecting individual choices. ;)

Ini keh migi, hamchin chizi ma nadidim !

Sepideh_UK
06-15-2006, 11:33 AM
unkasi ke dare baa un ezdevaj mikone bayad kamel beshnasatesh va ba raftarash ashna bashe bad beere ezdevaj kone;)

RedWine
06-15-2006, 11:35 AM
unkasi ke dare baa un ezdevaj mikone bayad kamel beshnasatesh va ba raftarash ashna bashe bad beere ezdevaj kone;)

daghighan dorost migi !

donsaeid
06-15-2006, 11:35 AM
unkasi ke dare baa un ezdevaj mikone bayad kamel beshnasatesh va ba raftarash ashna bashe bad beere ezdevaj kone;)

ki sohbat az ezdevaj kard? kheili delet shovar mikhada :D :goodman:

donsaeid
06-15-2006, 11:37 AM
Ini keh migi, hamchin chizi ma nadidim !

Humans try to be as a mirror to their believes. ;) so tell me have you met some muslim with these pereferences? maybe you are focusing on wrong type of people that call them selfs muslims :confused:

RedWine
06-15-2006, 11:39 AM
Humans try to be as a mirror to their believes. ;) so tell me have you met some muslim with these pereferences? maybe you are focusing on wrong type of people that call them selfs muslims :confused:

I judge all the person by their behaviours ! now i undrestand,the islam is not a perfect religion !

donsaeid
06-15-2006, 11:41 AM
Islam is Perfect... Muslims aren't

RedWine
06-15-2006, 11:41 AM
Islam is Perfect... Muslims aren't

Akheh pas in cheh dini hast keh kamel hast vali peirovanesh nah !!!!

Sepideh_UK
06-15-2006, 11:42 AM
manam khodaish nadidam, to islam migan , freedom hastesh har dini k emikhai beri mituni, vali bad kasi be islam miad tashvighesh mikonan, kasi az islam mire in molahaye ***** , ******* bar migardan migan ke bayad edam beshe:confused:

Sepideh_UK
06-15-2006, 11:44 AM
ki sohbat az ezdevaj kard? kheili delet shovar mikhada :D :goodman:

na man delam shohar nemikhad , shayad manzureto bad gereftam;)

RedWine
06-15-2006, 11:44 AM
Saeid jan. in emam hosein yebar goft: agar din nadari,la'aghal azadeh bash ! in ghazieh ham moredeh ehteram digeh nist touyeh iran !!!

donsaeid
06-15-2006, 11:51 AM
Dont Look at bad exemples... it is millions of great exemples...

to iran moteasefane goshnegan va teshnegane ghodrat soe estefade kardan va taghir dadan kheili chizaro...

Az you said age dini nadari azade bash... ina na azadean na din daran... madareshonam miforokhtan age chandroz bishtar betonan to ghodrat bemonan... bas behtare bahso siasish nakonim...

RedWine
06-15-2006, 11:53 AM
Dont Look at bad exemples... it is millions of great exemples...

to iran moteasefane goshnegan va teshnegane ghodrat soe estefade kardan va taghir dadan kheili chizaro...

Az you said age dini nadari azade bash... ina na azadean na din daran... madareshonam miforokhtan age chandroz bishtar betonan to ghodrat bemonan... bas behtare bahso siasish nakonim...

Ina keh migan,syasat ba din ghati hast keh ino islam gofteh,pas taklifeh in chi misheh ?

donsaeid
06-15-2006, 11:53 AM
Spide jan lotfan yekam khodeto control kon... ye dafe sekte mikoni inghadr narahat mishi... ;)

donsaeid
06-15-2006, 11:57 AM
Ina keh migan,syasat ba din ghati hast keh ino islam gofteh,pas taklifeh in chi misheh ?

Man aleme bahr nistam. din khaste ro siasat tasir bezare va ono az tabiz, dorogh va az in ghabil pak kone... ama moteasefane bazia az in estefade mikonan va migan din va siasat yeki hast. vali onvaght din ro be sorate abzari baraye piade kardane siasateshon estefade mikonan. darsorati ke din faghat mikhad jame'e va melat ro rahai bede.
AZADI, BARABARI va EHTERAM. that is what islam wants from me and everybody. yek ensane dorost. ke be kasi azari nade va say kone komaki baraye behtar kardane zendegie digan beshe.

Sepideh_UK
06-15-2006, 12:02 PM
Spide jan lotfan yekam khodeto control kon... ye dafe sekte mikoni inghadr narahat mishi... ;)


1) Sepideh , na Spide
2) Na to negarane man nabash;)

donsaeid
06-15-2006, 12:03 PM
yekam fosh be ino on dadi majbor shodam editesh konam... inghadram tond harf nazan.. mage sham felfel khordi...merci ;)

Sepideh_UK
06-15-2006, 12:08 PM
akhe in molla ha har chi begam kameshune lol
By the way haunuz sham nakhordam:D ;)

donsaeid
06-15-2006, 12:10 PM
im not their judge... but this is not alowed to insult anybody at this part of forum... boro to politic beheshon harchi khasti bego... RedWine mizare:D :p...

noshe jonet harchi ke bokhori :D

Sepideh_UK
06-15-2006, 12:13 PM
Mersi vali man fekr mikonam in kare dorosty nabashe Edit mikoni vali ...;)

golgol85
06-15-2006, 12:27 PM
Akheh pas in cheh dini hast keh kamel hast vali peirovanesh nah !!!!
bezar behet begam, hich adami kamel o perfect nist. hich dini ham kamele kamel nemishe hameye harfasho bedoone pishrafete ba zaman ghabool kard. moshkele mardom ineh ke hazer nistan ke ghabool konan bazi chiza outdated mishe.

donsaeid
06-15-2006, 12:52 PM
Mersi vali man fekr mikonam in kare dorosty nabashe Edit mikoni vali ...;)

bebin sepideh jan... in ghesmat az Forum hargone tohini Ban automatic dare. it was last warning.

Sepideh_UK
06-15-2006, 01:15 PM
FINE!!!

donsaeid
06-15-2006, 01:38 PM
chera narahat mishe azize dele baradar... dad mizani saram? :( man faghat dota kalameye zesht ro ke estefade karde bodi ro ***** intori kardam... baghieye harfat hamtor monde bekhoda. :D

Parinaz_M
06-16-2006, 09:45 AM
ok back to the topic:
bastegi be pedaro madar dare, va khode oona too che khoonevadeyi bozorg shodan
tanha khanevadehaye irani nistan ke baziyashoon momkene sakht giri konan age bachashoon bekhad dinesho entekhab kone
be nazare man iraniya kheyli roshan fekr hastan, albate bishtareshon, va hamishe salahe bachehashono mikhan

Sepideh_UK
06-16-2006, 11:10 AM
Saeed!! NP Mate!!

Parinaz jun, be uni ke to migi bastegi dare aare ghabul daram, vali aadam mitune khodesho avaz kone tu zendegi , shayad chizai ke baba o mamanesh goftan baraye un zaman bude , bayad fekr kone bebine aalanam un harf mana dare, aslan manteghi hast ya na!! Pas Adam mitune khodesho avaz kone tu har khunevadeiam bozorg shode bashe tasiresho dare vali taghir dadane khodesham impossible nist

donsaeid
06-16-2006, 04:13 PM
cheers :p :D

Parinaz_M
06-18-2006, 12:35 PM
are sepide joon, dorost migi, khode adam bayad tavanayi eno dashte bashe ke vase zendegish tasmim begire

Sepideh_UK
06-18-2006, 06:50 PM
Daghighan

donsaeid
06-19-2006, 05:00 AM
i support you opinion... but for that to happen in a country like iran we need a culture to change... maybe we can be the turn around people... keep up the work to make iranian culture better ;)

Parinaz_M
06-19-2006, 08:38 AM
good luck with that
midoni adamaye irani migan: are ma bayad avaz beshim, bayad modern beshim, vali bishtareshon aslan nemikhan chizi avaz beshe

RedWine
06-19-2006, 09:03 AM
good luck with that
midoni adamaye irani migan: are ma bayad avaz beshim, bayad modern beshim, vali bishtareshon aslan nemikhan chizi avaz beshe

Misheh begi 'modern' shodan ya'ani chi inja ?

Parinaz_M
06-19-2006, 11:38 AM
dash sia dobare omadi gir bediya
manzooram az modern boodan up to date boodane, yani dige ghadimi fekr nakardan, ye khorde emrooz fekr kardan, az en chiza dige

RedWine
06-19-2006, 12:00 PM
dash sia dobare omadi gir bediya
manzooram az modern boodan up to date boodane, yani dige ghadimi fekr nakardan, ye khorde emrooz fekr kardan, az en chiza dige

Hamchin chizi momken nist ! Magar inkeh az lahaz-e tarbiat va farhang,dar haddi bashan keh betounan avaz beshan !

donsaeid
06-19-2006, 07:11 PM
daghighan...

tanx pari... i need good luck ;) chon sakhte taghir...

ama uptodate bodan dalil be in nemishe ke hamechi ghadimiro dor bendazim

kheili chiza ke uptodate hastan va kheiliam ashghalan va kheili chizaye ghadimiro alan ehtiaj darim...