Hamas (Palestinian Terrorists Are Alone)

[Rasputin]

As a general rule, wherever there is oppression, there is resistance. But it is also true that in all societies there is a strata that takes the side of the oppressors and blames the victims for their resistance. In the current wars of aggression in the Middle East such is the case with the Zionists and pro-imperialists behind Israel. In Iran, we have not been deprived of our share of this political tendency.

To the right of the spectrum known as Iran's reformists lie amorphous bourgeois political groups and individuals, that at the present time of war and destruction try to discourage the Iranian people from giving support to the oppressed nations of Iraq, Afghanistan, Lebanon and Palestine. As an example, in the opinion of Ibrahim Yazdi, secretary general of Freedom Movement in Iran, a liberal opposition group, "The events in the Middle East will have a negative impact on democracy in Iran." Therefore, in his judgment the overwhelming opposition of the Iranian people and government to the Israeli onslaught in Gaza Strip and Lebanon, and their heightened sympathy for the plight of close to one million refugees and injured is not in line with his strangely envisioned democracy. Accordingly, his version of democracy is incompatible with compassion and support for the oppressed nations standing up to the oppressors.

Another proponent of a similar ideology is the now infamous and discredited, but well paid, Amir Taheri, an Iranian born collaborator with the neo-conservative and Zionist bloc at Benedor Assoicates who authored the completely fabricated story in the National Post of Canada, alleging that the Parliament of Iran had passed a law requiring Iranian Jews, Christians and other minorities to wear badges for distinction.

Taheri is at it again. In a July 23, 2006 article in the London TimesOnLine, he writes, "The mini-war that is taking place between Israel and Hezbollah is, in fact, a proxy war in which Iran's vision for the Middle East clashes with the administration in Washington." In that pro-Zionist mythology, Mr. Amir Taheri, an old-hand at spewing Israel's anti-Arab, anti-Iran propaganda, laboriously tries to marginalize the fundamental causes of the 60 years of war, intifadas and fruitless negotiations between the U.S.-Israeli camp and the Arabs, with the Palestinian people at the center of the conflicts.

For the sake of clarity, let us pose the basic cause of those conflicts. The response by a non-Zionist and impartial observers would be it is the occupation of the Palestinian territory, Syrian territory of Golan Heights and the Lebanese territory of the Shebaa Farms.

[Rasputin]

[Rasputin]

In response to such an expression of evil intent, the Syrian ambassador to the U.S., Imad Moustapha, in an interview with Tim Russert (MSNBC) on July 30 stated that it is merely amusing. He said with amazement, "What sort of solution is this? We believe the core issue is the Israeli occupation of Palestinian territory, of Syrian territory, and of Lebanese territory. The history of the Middle East did not start two weeks ago." In his reflection over Syria's economic cooperation and security alliance with Iran, Moustapha asserted that "We are allies to Iran because Iran is supporting our causes."

To some Iranians living abroad and fascinated by so-called modernity and the concept of bourgeois liberalism, Iran's support for the peoples of Palestine, Lebanon and Syria is motivated by Tehran's ruling class "agenda". This undocumented and cynical view of the cooperation between the countries and movements in question is supposed to explain the unproven exploitative nature of the relation that accordingly, is solely motivated by self-interests, whose ultimate goal is mutual exploitation. This distorted outlook sounds more like bourgeois marriages among wealthy individuals. On the other hand, the cost of this alliance, in terms of international trade, diplomacy and capital investment are much dearer than what Syrian, Palestinian and Lebanese can offer in exchange. Measured in terms of short-terms interests, the Islamic Republic can obtain far more economic and trade concessions from Europe and even the U.S., should it choose to alter its policy of support of the liberation movements.

Apparently, it seems that the drive for "regime change" has blind-sided the individuals who occasionally pretend to support the struggles of the working class and the oppressed masses of Iran.

[mike435]

i dono what to call it just had to offload what iam thinking

look at recent news and you can see how litle care there is for palastinian, arab and muslim life.

In the past weeks almost 20 people have been killed in the PA terretories some children and close to sixty wounded by palastinian infighting.

yet no one in the world community cares to say anything not to even condemn it even fellow arab and muslim countries dont show real sighns of mediation just symbolic meeting here and a meeting there and were is beloved carring islamic republic that calls itself IRAN who is upmost concerned with there cousins well being in palastine? and the injustices being commited against theme regardless of affiliation? were is delsooze ahmadinejad who is so caring about peoples rights and lifes?

why do i bring this up?

becuse this is an example that demonstrate that the world community including the arab world, dosent really care about arabs, muslim or palastinian life they only care about israels prasecution,

and they use the victoms suffering(the dead palastians or injured or homeless) to advance their own prasecution of israel.

but sadly this time the victom wont be heard of becuse he was not condemd by israeli gun

if life is life were is the UN responces of condemnation and resolutions, were is the boycotts, were is the shuttle diplomacy, were are the guest speakars condeming hamas or PA for killing there own people and leaving there own kids in the sight of cross fire. were are the muslim grouos that ussualy issue statements of condemnation for the region, were are the petitions, were are the leftwing american or british diplomats who we see all the time condeming israel for taking palastinian life, were are they please tell me were isnt this a life, were cnn, msnbs, they allways care to report injustices by israel hapening to palastians,

yet why do we see all sorts of reaction imediatly fallowing a raid in the teretories or a shell that goes astray.


why? becuase the world cares more about the prasecution of the zionist goverment than life of a fellow muslim.

I guss the palastinian propeganda machine got somthing wrong here with out an israeli or zionis twist to your killing of fellow palastinians your voice wont be heard because the world can care less wethere you kill eachother or not and more about who killed you, and this time sadly for you you are the victom of the wrong guy,

this is so disgusting to writeeeeeeeeeeee
and probably more discusting to read

[mike435]

you know somthing the only one who does care about the palastinians life are israeli peac activist i think they are the only ones whose sole aim is not somthing in it for theme selfs

that is to aplaude a group of people to so selfless to fight for the right of another that wats ther country

[mike435]

17 Palestinians, including four children, were killed Friday in clashes between Hamas and Fatah, bringing the total number of fatalities since a brief cease-fire collapsed Thursday to 24. Some 245 have been wounded in the fierce fighting.

[golgol85]

Its very sad to hear that more innocent people are being killed, but the reality is that if you keep feeding people the same things, they become desensitized. Its sad but true. I will give you a personal example: I was recently in the company of a medical school resident when we had someone approach us and ask about a medical problem with a very ill family member (mozoo marg o zendegi bood), after she left, I responded how sad the situation was and you know what he told me? that I was reacting like a typical premed and that i needed to toughen up. He seemed fine with it though, and I mentioned this to him. The reality is that since I havent been exposed to as many sad situations, I still get affected while someone who deals with life and death on a daily basis becomes desensitized.

Back to my point: the media has been talking about middle eastern fighting and death for quite some time, and at this point people dont care who is killing who, they are tired of hearing about it. What doesnt affect them doesnt concern them.

Something like death and war should never become "aadi" and normal, when it does, many become apathetic.

Just because the Israelis arent involved in this doesnt mean they are free from blame. The palestinians are frustrated and they dont know who to take out their anger on, so they take it out on eachother. Where does the frustration come from? from a war ravaged country. Who waged war? israel. so in a sense israel is to blame in this, although not directly. I am sure the same type of things happen in Israel too, the Israeli people are just as frustrated.

[mike435]

first off i am very glad and thank full that you wrote on this thread
i sincierly mean that

now regarding adi
if it was like that americans shouldnt be protesting the iraq war and soldirs dead
israelis shouldnt care about their civillians diying and just accept it as a way of life after all its going on for 60 years and 4o years befor that
and by connection jewish community shouldnt care it should have by now become adi.

i think citing adi as an excuse is irisposiple

in regards israelis going throgh the same thing

if you remeber in 2005 the democrocy of israel decided to withdraw form gaza a big minority did not want this especialy those who had foght for the land and had worked it non the less the same IDF that foght to get the land protect its people was now uprooting them

what happend was a great moment of truth for israelis lots of anguish and pain non the less it went throgh in six days as oppose to a planed 4 weeks
in the process no one got killed and few got hurt the idf moved about 4000 by force but they did it with integrity from both sides all because they were still united.

i think this situation showes hamas's selfishness

and israeli connection offcourse its there palastinians or atleast fatah has come to the realization that the solution wont be solved by terorisom and force and now they are finally changing coarse.

we just have to see how selfish hamas is going to be
does it care about palastinians more or about the destruction if israel to get palstine

[mike435]

also when you say dont know who to take there anger out on

you make it sound that you allways have to vent anger
why not just take it in and be productive with it
instead fighting israels or themselfs build your country start with gaza
the palastinians have somthing the zionist didnt have at the begening of creation of their country and that is the support of the world community for g-d sakes even israels

the zionist were facing enemy all over and a forced world support that was only symboliccs gesturs

[donsaeid]

Israel and hamas make a agreement

Israel, Hamas reach deal on release of kidnapped soldier: report



An agreement has been reached between Israel and the Palestinian Islamic Resistance Movement ( Hamas) over the release of the kidnapped Israeli soldier, the Jerusalem Post reported on Thursday.

The report, citing Israeli defense officials, said that the two sides have agreed on the number of prisoners Israel will release in return for Gilad Shalit, the kidnapped soldier, and the exchange may take place in the coming weeks.

According to the report, the prisoner swap will be conducted in three stages: Israel will first release prisoners as a gesture to Palestinian National Authority Chairman Mahmoud Abbas; Shalit will then be handed over to Egyptian custody; finally Israel will release several hundred additional prisoners, mostly affiliated with Hamas.

"The details have been agreed upon and the last issues are being wrapped up," one senior Israeli official was quoted by the daily as saying.

Shalit was seized by Palestinian militant groups led by Izz el- Deen al-Qassam Brigades, armed wing of Hamas, in a cross-border raid on June 25 last year and has been held hostage since then.

The captors conditioned Shalit's return on release of 1,000 Palestinian prisoners in Israeli jails, but Israel only offered to free 130 prisoners.

[mike435]

Terrorism of HAMAS

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=814_1177422076

for those who have doubts

[mike435]

Hamas hijacks Mickey

Filed under Incitement, Hamas on Thursday, May 10, 2007 by Author: Admin.
Farfur, bearing a striking resemblance to the trademark Disney character, encourages children to 'liberate' Muslim countries.
May 10, 2007

'WE, TOMORROW'S pioneers, will restore the glory of this nation," says the squeaky-voiced cartoon rodent beloved by generations of children. "We will liberate Al Aqsa, inshallah; we will liberate Iraq, inshallahhttp://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/...inion-leftrail

[mike435]

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lv3dvYhFk_Y"]YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.[/ame]

some excerpts

[mike435]

HAMAS aggression

Wave after wave of Qassam missiles strike Sderot Tuesday night, injuring 19 people, two seriously. Hamas expanded blitz of more than 30 missiles from Gaza against Kibbutz Nahal Oz, Alumim, Beeri, Kfar Aza and Netivot. Strategic installation hit in Ashkelon
May 15, 2007, 11:30 PM (GMT+02:00)
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Sderot took heavy damage from at least 20 missiles which directly hit several homes, in which seven civilians, including a mother and her son, were wounded. Blazes were started in the town and surrounding localities. This was the heaviest Qassam assault the Palestinians have ever staged from the Gaza Strip in more than six years of battering. Hamas has threatened to fire scores in a single night.
DEBKAfile

[mike435]

Hamas threatens to fire more Kassams
By YAAKOV KATZ AND HERB KEINON
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With the security cabinet in the midst of reassessing policy toward the Gaza Strip, Tuesday night's Kassam barrage on Sderot was not expected to lead to any dramatic and immediate change in Israel's relative restraint, government officials said Tuesday evening.
Sderot came under attack Tuesday night and a barrage of 20 Kassam rockets wounded more than 18 people, one seriously. The rocket bombardment started towards the evening when a salvo of seven rockets slammed into the Negev city. One scored a direct hit on a home, leaving a 45-year-old woman seriously wounded and her son listed in moderate condition. A number of other people in the home sustained light injuries.
Following the rocket onslaught, Defense Minister Amir Peretz met with IDF Chief of General Staff Lt.-Gen. Gabi Ashkenazi to discuss possible responses.
Hamas took responsibility for the attacks, which it said were retaliation for the shooting of a Palestinian gunman near the Gaza security fence earlier in the day. In addition, Hamas threatened in a statement to fire dozens more rockets at Sderot throughout the night. Defense officials, however, said the attack was most likely connected to the ongoing internal clashes between Fatah and Hamas inside Gaza that killed at least 15 Palestinians Tuesday.
According to the officials, the Hamas attack was an attempt to draw attention away from their slaying of eight Fatah security officers earlier in the day and was meant to provoke Israel into invading Gaza, a move that would end the internal fighting and unite Fatah and Hamas against their common Israeli enemy.
The IDF has standing cabinet approval to strike at groups launching rockets. And at a security cabinet meeting on Sunday, Prime Minister Ehud Olmert stressed that if IDF action inside the Gaza Strip beyond what had already been approved were needed, he and Peretz were empowered to give the green light.
The defense officials said the IDF would respond harshly to the attack and that despite the cabinet's decision not to launch an operation in Gaza, Israel might possibly step up its action in the form of targeted killings and pinpointed ground operations along the security fence.
Government officials said a major new tactical shift in Israel's response to the Kassams would come, if at all, only after the security cabinet finished its discussions on the matter some time next week.
After Tuesday evening's Kassam barrages, the Prime Minister's Office issued a statement saying that "Israel today extended its hand for peace yet again, but has had it rejected by the firing of a series of barrages into Sderot, hitting schools and homes." The statement referred to Olmert's call earlier Tuesday, in a meeting with Jordan's King Abdullah II in Aqaba, for negotiations with the Arab League on the Arab Peace Initiative.
Israel, the statement said, viewed the attacks as a Hamas "provocation," and "would choose the time and place to respond." Hamas took responsibility for the attacks.
Senior sources in the Prime Minister's Office said it was clear that Hamas was trying to provoke a massive Israeli response that would unite the Palestinian factions and put an end to the upswing in internecine Palestinian violence, and that Israel "did not have to lend its hand to Hamas."
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