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Cop
11-06-2005, 05:36 PM
here::smt020

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?apage=1&cid=1131043721479&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

Nushabeh
11-06-2005, 09:10 PM
That's the truth lol .... I've heard the same thing :) for logn time that zendigishoon unja khali badeh

DariushM
11-06-2005, 10:01 PM
that was cool

ProudPersian
11-07-2005, 05:07 PM
lol

Now if only those damn mullahs would die! and Jews would be accepted. Then Iran would be much much better than Israel to live in.

ramin2999
11-07-2005, 08:09 PM
lol

DariushM
11-07-2005, 09:56 PM
man the iranian jews in amrica live like kings
i live in tennessee and here one of the iranian jews families owns chain electronic stores. they are multi millioners, them nizzoles is livin large

RedWine
11-08-2005, 07:54 AM
man the iranian jews in amrica live like kings
i live in tennessee and here one of the iranian jews families owns chain electronic stores. they are multi millioners, them nizzoles is livin large

Good for them ! :D

Nushabeh
11-08-2005, 09:05 PM
baba jeweh irani in iran live good life i dunno what u guys talkign abotu vali toh shiraz keh ziadan .. kesi ham kar beh kareshoon nadaareh aslan man keh nemitunam tashkisehshoon bedam magar keh ashena bashan momi va babiam beganam lol ... rasti bacha iranian vlubeh mah took over the office of clubeh jewisha toh daneshkam unaro kardn biroon mah officeshoon girehmoon umad :D

Cop
11-08-2005, 09:30 PM
good 4 ya nushabeh :p

faghat baraye etela'aate bacheha migam ke jewsh tooye iran kheili azadi bishtari daran ta amrica... baraye masal dar amrica jewsh bayad tabe'e ghavanine state ke daroonesh zendegi mikonan bashan ;)

Nushabeh
11-10-2005, 08:45 PM
areh khali vasey man goodeh nah :D lol

ramin2999
11-10-2005, 09:02 PM
cop chimigi in the states ussualy as long as you dont hurt socioty and dont dont force it on other people you can do what ever the f you want .

I dono man i used to live in Iran and i think here people are much more free. I mean in Iran people of other religion did have more right for there religion thene muslims but still they wernt as free as they are in the states.
example i remember vividly is alcohal.

by the way i came out of Iran when i was 11. So I havnt really experianced Iran first hand throgh my own eyes.

Cop
11-10-2005, 09:11 PM
no dude.. u can go and ask about what i said :)

ashkan300
12-16-2005, 08:47 AM
when i heard this amazing news,it made me so glad;however,i can not believe it.jew are very well_off and have some enterprize.of course they can inter a lots of technology to persia,so persia is going to be 1 of the best territory again.i hope this news will be correct.be omide inke farda betoonim iran ra behtar az harrooz bebinim.

RedWine
12-16-2005, 10:23 AM
when i heard this amazing news,it made me so glad;however,i can not believe it.jew are very well_off and have some enterprize.of course they can inter a lots of technology to persia,so persia is going to be 1 of the best territory again.i hope this news will be correct.be omide inke farda betoonim iran ra behtar az harrooz bebinim.

Nice words. thx :)

donsaeid
12-16-2005, 08:36 PM
cool... think they will have it better in iran than being in the blowing hell called Palestine/Israel... iran is at least more peacefull...

RedWine
06-28-2006, 08:29 AM
Jews (Hebrew: יְהוּדִים, Yehudim; Yiddish: ייִדן, Yiden) are followers of Judaism or, more generally, members of the Jewish people (also known as the Jewish nation, or the Children of Israel), an ethno-religious group descended from the ancient Israelites and from converts who joined their religion. The term also includes those who have undergone an officially recognized formal process of religious conversion to Judaism. The current Jewish population is over 14.5 million, the majority of whom live in Israel and the United States.

The origin of the Jews is traditionally dated to around 1800 BCE with the biblical account of the birth of Judaism.

The Merneptah Stele, dated at 1200 BCE, is one of the earliest archaeological records of the Jewish people in the Land of Israel, where they further developed a monotheistic religion, Judaism, and enjoyed periods of self-determination. As a result of foreign conquests and expulsions starting in the 8th century BCE, a Jewish diaspora was formed. Defeats in the Jewish-Roman Wars in the years 70 CE and 135 notably contributed to the numbers and geography of the diaspora, as significant numbers of the Jewish population of the Land of Israel were expelled and sold to slavery throughout the empire. Since then, Jews lived throughout Europe and the greater Middle East, surviving discrimination, oppression, poverty, and even genocide, with occasional periods of cultural, economic, and individual prosperity.

Until the late 18th century, the terms Jews and adherents of Judaism were practically synonymous, and Judaism was the prime binding factor among the Jews, although it was not strictly required to be followed in order to belong to the Jewish people. Following the Age of Enlightenment and its Jewish counterpart Haskalah, a gradual transformation occurred where many Jews came to view being a member of the Jewish nation as separate from adhering to the Jewish faith.

The Hebrew name Yehudi (plural Yehudim) came into being when the Kingdom of Israel was split between the northern Kingdom of Israel and the southern Kingdom of Judah. The term originally referred to the people of the southern kingdom, although the term B'nei Yisrael (Israelites) was still used for both groups. After the Assyrians conquered the northern kingdom leaving the southern kingdom as the only Israelite state, the word Yehudim gradually came to refer to people of the Jewish faith as a whole, rather than those specifically from Judah. The English word Jew is ultimately derived from Yehudi . Its first use in the Bible to refer to the Jewish people as a whole is in the Book of Esther.

There are many different views as to the origin of the English language word Jew. The most common view is that the Middle English word Jew is from the Old French giu, earlier juieu, from the Latin iudeus from the Greek Ioudaios (Ιουδαίος). The Latin simply means Judaean, from the land of Judaea. The Hebrew for Jew, יהודי , is pronounced ye-hoo-DEE. The Hebrew letter Yodh (or Yud), י, used as a 'y' in the Hebrew language (as in the word ye-hoo-DEE), becomes a 'j' in languages using the Latin-based alphabet when the Yodh is used as a consonant rather than as a vowel. Therefore, a rough transliteration of יהודי in English would be Jew.

The etymological equivalent is in use in other languages, e.g., "Jude" in German, "juif" in French, "jøde," in Danish, etc., but derivations of the word "Hebrew" are also in use to describe a Jewish person, e.g., in Italian (Ebreo) and Russian: Еврей, (Yevrey).

RedWine
06-28-2006, 08:30 AM
Judaism shares some of the characteristics of a nation, an ethnicity, a religion, and a culture, making the definition of who is a Jew vary slightly depending on whether a religious or national approach to identity is used. For discussions of the religious views on who is a Jew and how these views differ from each other, please see Who is a Jew?. Generally, in modern secular usage, Jews include three groups: people who practice Judaism and have a Jewish ethnic background (sometimes including those who do not have strictly matrilineal descent), people without Jewish parents who have converted to Judaism; and those Jews who, while not practicing Judaism as a religion, still identify themselves as Jewish by virtue of their family's Jewish descent and their own cultural and historical identification with the Jewish people.

Historical definitions of Jewish identity have traditionally been based on Halakhic definitions of matrilineal descent, and halachic conversions. Historical definitions of who is a Jew date back to the codification of the oral tradition into the Babylonian Talmud. Biblical interpretations of sections in the Tanach, such as Deuteronomy 7:1-5, by learned Jewish sages, is used as a warning against intermarriage between Jews and non Jews because "[the non-Jewish male spouse] will cause your child to turn away from Me and they will worship the gods of others." Leviticus 24:10 speaks of the son in a marriage between a Hebrew woman and an Egyptian man to be "of the community of Israel.", which contrasts with Ezra 10:2-3, where Israelites returning from Egypt, vowed to put aside their gentile wives and their children. Since the Haskalah, these halakhic interpretations of Jewish identity have been challenged.

Judaism guides its adherents in both practice and belief, and has been called not only a religion, but also a "way of life," which has made drawing a clear distinction between Judaism, Jewish culture, and Jewish nationality rather difficult. In many times and places, such as in the ancient Hellenic world, in Europe before and after the Enlightenment (see Haskalah), and in contemporary United States and Israel, cultural phenomena have developed that are in some sense characteristically Jewish without being at all specifically religious. Some factors in this come from within Judaism, others from the interaction of Jews with others around them, others from the inner social and cultural dynamics of the community, as opposed to religion itself.

RedWine
06-28-2006, 08:30 AM
The most commonly used terms to describe ethnic divisions among Jews currently are: Ashkenazi (meaning "German" in Hebrew, denoting the Central European base of Jewry); and Sephardi (meaning "Spanish" or "Iberian" in Hebrew, denoting their Spanish, Portuguese and North African location). They refer to both religious and ethnic divisions.

Other Jewish ethnic groups include Mizrahi Jews (a term overlapping Sephardi, but emphasizing North African and Middle Eastern rather than Spanish history, and including the Maghrebim); Teimanim (Yemenite and Omani Jews); and such smaller groups as the Gruzim and Juhurim from the Caucasus, the Bene Israel, Bnei Menashe, Cochin and Telugu Jews of India, the Romaniotes of Greece, the Italkim (Bené Roma) of Italy, various African Jews (most notably the Beta Israel or Ethiopian Jews), the Bukharan Jews of Central Asia, and the Persian Jews of Iran.

Prior to World War II the world population of Jews was approximately 18 million. The Holocaust reduced this number to approximately 12 million. Today, there are an estimated 13 million [2] to 14.6 million[3] Jews worldwide in over 134 countries.

RedWine
06-28-2006, 08:31 AM
Israel, the Jewish nation-state, is the only country in which Jews make up a majority of the citizens. It was established as an independent democratic state on May 14, 1948. Of the 120 members in its parliament, the Knesset, 9 members are Israeli Arabs and 2 are Israeli Druzes. At the time of its independence, approximately 600,000 Jews lived in Israel. Since then, the country's Jewish population has increased by about one million over each decade as more immigrants arrived and more Israelis were born, resulting in one of the most significant global Jewish population shifts in over 2,000 years.

All the Arab Israeli Wars have not slowed Israel's growth. Israel opened its doors to the Holocaust survivors. It has absorbed a majority of the Sephardic and Mizrahi Jews from the Islamic countries. It has taken in hundreds of thousands of Jews from the former USSR, and has airlifted tens of thousands of Ethiopian Jews[7]to Israel. In the past decade nearly a million immigrants came to Israel from the former Soviet Union. Many Jews who emigrated to Israel have moved elsewhere, known as yerida ("descent" [from the Holy Land]), due to its economic problems or due to disillusionment with political conditions and the continuing Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

RedWine
06-28-2006, 08:32 AM
The waves of immigration to the United States at the turn of the 19th century, massacre of European Jewry during the Holocaust, and the foundation of the state of Israel (and subsequent Jewish exodus from Arab lands) all resulted in substantial shifts in the population centers of world Jewry during the 20th century.

Currently, the largest Jewish community in the world is located in the United States, with almost 5.7 million Jews. Elsewhere in the Americas, there are also large Jewish populations in Canada and Argentina, and smaller populations in Brazil, Mexico , Uruguay, Venezuela, Chile, and several other countries (see History of the Jews in Latin America).

Western Europe's largest Jewish community can be found in France, home to 600,000 Jews, the majority of whom are immigrants or refugees from North African Arab countries such as Algeria, Morocco, and Tunisia (or their descendants). There are over 265,000 Jews in the United Kingdom. In Eastern Europe, there are anywhere from 500,000 to over two million Jews living in the former Soviet Union, but exact figures are difficult to establish. The fastest-growing Jewish community in the world, outside Israel, is the one in Germany, especially in Berlin, its capital. Tens of thousands of Jews from the former Eastern Bloc have settled in Germany since the fall of the Berlin Wall.

The Arab countries of North Africa and the Middle East were home to around 900,000 Jews in 1945. Systematic persecution after the founding of Israel caused almost all of these Jews to flee to Israel, North America, and Europe in the 1950s. Today, around 8,000 Jews remain in Arab nations. Iran is home to around 25,000 Jews, down from a population of 100,000 Jews before the 1979 revolution. After the revolution some of the Iranian Jews emigrated to Israel or Europe but most of them emigrated (with their non-Jewish Iranian compatriots) to the United States (especially Los Angeles).

Outside Europe, Asia and the Americas, significant Jewish populations exist in Australia and South Africa.

RedWine
06-28-2006, 08:32 AM
Population changes: Assimilation
Since at least the time of the ancient Greeks, a proportion of Jews have assimilated into the wider non-Jewish society around them, by either choice or force, ceasing to practice Judaism and losing their Jewish identity. Some Jewish communities, for example the Kaifeng Jews of China, have disappeared entirely, but assimilation has remained relatively low over much of the past millennium, as Jews were often not allowed to integrate with the wider communities in which they lived. The advent of the Jewish Enlightenment (see Haskalah) of the 1700s and the subsequent emancipation of the Jewish populations of Europe and America in the 1800s, changed the situation, allowing Jews to increasingly participate in, and become part of, secular society. The result has been a growing trend of assimilation, as Jews marry non-Jewish spouses and stop participating in the Jewish community. Rates of interreligious marriage vary widely: In the United States, they are just under 50%[8], in the United Kingdom, around 50%, and in Australia and Mexico, as low as 10%[9][10], and in France, they may be as high as 75%. In the United States, only about a third of children from intermarriages affiliate themselves with Jewish practice. Additionally, since non-religious Jews generally tend to marry later and have fewer children than the general population, the Jewish community in many countries is aging. The result is that most countries in the Diaspora have steady or slightly declining Jewish populations as Jews continue to assimilate into the countries in which they live.

Throughout history, many rulers, empires and nations have oppressed their Jewish populations, or sought to eliminate them entirely. Methods employed have ranged from expulsion to outright genocide; within nations, often the threat of these extreme methods was sufficient to silence dissent. Some examples in the history of anti-Semitism are: the Great Jewish Revolt against the Roman Empire; the First Crusade which resulted in the massacre of Jews; the Spanish Inquisition led by Torquemada and the Auto de fé against the Marrano Jews; the Bohdan Chmielnicki Cossack massacres in Ukraine; the Pogroms backed by the Russian Tsars; as well as expulsions from Spain, England, France, Germany, and other countries in which the Jews had settled. The persecution culminated in Adolf Hitler's Final Solution, which led to the Holocaust and the slaughter of approximately 6 million Jews from 1939 to 1945. According to James Carroll, "Jews accounted for 10% of the total population of the Roman Empire. By that ratio, if other factors had not intervened, there would be 200 million Jews in the world today, instead of something like 13 million."

RedWine
06-28-2006, 08:32 AM
Israel is the only country with a consistently growing Jewish population due to natural population increase, though the Jewish populations of other countries in Europe and North America have recently increased due to immigration. In the Diaspora, in almost every country the Jewish population in general is either declining or steady, but Orthodox and Haredi Jewish communities, whose members often shun birth control for religious reasons, have experienced rapid population growth, with rates near 4% per year for Haredi Jews in Israel, and similar rates in other countries.

Orthodox and Conservative Judaism discourage proselytization to non-Jews, but many Jewish groups have tried to reach out to the assimilated Jewish communities of the Diaspora in order to increase the number of Jews. Additionally, while in principle Reform Judaism favors seeking new members for the faith, this position has not translated into active proselytism, instead taking the form of an effort to reach out to non-Jewish spouses of intermarried couples. There is also a trend of Orthodox movements pursuing secular Jews in order to give them a stronger Jewish identity so there is less chance of intermarriage. As a result of the efforts by these and other Jewish groups over the past twenty-five years, there has been a trend of secular Jews becoming more religiously observant, known as the Baal Teshuva movement, though the demographic implications of the trend are unknown. Additionally, there is also a growing movement of Jews by Choice by gentiles who make the decision to head in the direction of becoming Jews.

Hebrew is the liturgical language of Judaism (termed lashon ha-kodesh, "the holy tongue"), and is one of the two official languages of the State of Israel (the other being Arabic). It was revived by Eliezer ben Yehuda, who arrived in Palestine in 1881 at a time when no one spoke the Hebrew language. Diaspora Jews (outside Israel) today speak the local languages of their respective countries. Yiddish is the historic language of many Ashkenazi Jews, and Ladino of many Sephardic Jews.

RedWine
06-28-2006, 08:33 AM
Throughout Jewish history, Jews have repeatedly been directly or indirectly expelled from both their original homeland, and the areas in which they have resided. This experience as both immigrants and emigrants (see: Jewish refugees) have shaped Jewish identity and religious practice in many ways. An incomplete list of such migrations includes:

The patriarch Abraham was a migrant to the land of Canaan from Ur of the Chaldees.
The Children of Israel experienced the Exodus (meaning "departure" or "going forth" in Greek) from ancient Egypt, as recorded in the Book of Exodus.
The Kingdom of Israel was sent into permanent exile and scattered all over the world by Assyria.
The Kingdom of Judah was exiled first by Babylonia and then by Rome.
The 2,000 year dispersion of the Jewish diaspora beginning under the Roman Empire, as Jews were spread throughout the Roman world and, driven from land to land, and settled wherever they could live freely enough to practice their religion. Over the course of the diaspora the center of Jewish life moved from Babylonia to Spain to Poland to the United States and to Israel.
Many expulsions during the Middle Ages and Enlightenment in Europe, including: 1290, 16,000 Jews were expelled from England, see the (Statute of Jewry); in 1396, 100,000 from France; in 1421 thousands were expelled from Austria. Many of these Jews settled in Eastern Europe, especially Poland.
Following the Spanish Inquisition in 1492, the Spanish population of around 200,000 Sephardic Jews were expelled by the Spanish crown and Catholic church, followed by expulsions in 1493 in Sicily (37,000 Jews) and Portugal in 1496. The expelled Jews fled mainly to the Ottoman Empire, the Netherlands, and North Africa, others migrating to Southern Europe and the Middle East.
During the 19th century, France's policies of equal citizenship regardless of religion led to the immigration of Jews (especially from Eastern and Central Europe), which was encouraged by Napoleon Bonaparte.
The arrival of millions of Jews in the New World, including immigration of over two million Eastern European Jews to the United States from 1880-1925, see History of the Jews in the United States and History of the Jews in Russia and the Soviet Union.
The Pogroms in Eastern Europe, the rise of modern Anti-Semitism, the Holocaust and the rise of Arab nationalism all served to fuel the movements and migrations of huge segments of Jewry from land to land and continent to continent, until they have now arrived back in large numbers at their original historical homeland in Israel.
The Islamic Revolution of Iran, forced many Iranian Jews to flee Iran. Most found refuge in the US (particularly Los Angeles, CA) and Israel. Smaller communities of Persian Jews exist in Canada and Western Europe.

RedWine
06-28-2006, 08:33 AM
Jews descend mostly from the ancient Israelites (also known as Hebrews), who settled in the Land of Israel. The Israelites traced their common lineage to the biblical patriarch Abraham through Isaac and Jacob. A United Monarchy was established under Saul and continued under King David and Solomon. King David conquered Jerusalem (first a Canaanite, then a Jebusite town) and made it his capital. After Solomon's reign, the nation split into two kingdoms, the Kingdom of Israel (in the north) and the Kingdom of Judah (in the south). The Kingdom of Israel was conquered by the Assyrian ruler Shalmaneser V in the 8th century BCE and spread all over the Assyrian empire, where they were assimilated into other cultures and came to be known as the Ten Lost Tribes. The Kingdom of Judah continued as an independent state until it was conquered by a Babylonian army in the early 6th century BCE, destroying the First Temple that was at the centre of Jewish worship. The Judean elite was exiled to Babylonia, but later at least a part of them returned to their homeland after the subsequent conquest of Babylonia by the Persians seventy years later, a period known as the Babylonian Captivity. A new Second Temple was constructed funded by Persian Kings, and old religious practices were resumed.

RedWine
06-28-2006, 08:34 AM
The Seleucid Kingdom, which arose after the Persians were defeated by Alexander the Great, sought to introduce Greek culture into the Persian world. When the Seleucid king Antiochus IV Epiphanes, supported by Hellenized Jews (those who had adopted Greek culture), attempted to convert the Jewish Temple to a temple of Zeus, the non-Hellenized Jews revolted under the leadership of the Maccabees and rededicated the Temple to the Jewish God (hence the origins of Hanukkah) and created an independent Jewish kingdom known as the Hasmonaean Kingdom which lasted from 165 BCE to 63 BCE, when the kingdom came under influence of the Roman Empire. During the early part of Roman rule, the Hasmonaeans remained in power, until the family was annihilated by Herod the Great. Herod came from a wealthy Idumean family and became a very successful client-king under the Romans. He significantly expanded the Temple in Jerusalem.

Upon his death in 4 BCE the Romans directly ruled Judea and there were frequent changes of policies by conflicting and empire-building Caesars, generals, governors, and consuls who often acted cruelly or to maximize their own wealth and power. Rome's attitudes swung from tolerance to hostility against its Jewish subjects, who had since moved throughout the Empire. The Romans, worshipping a large pantheon, could not readily accommodate the exclusive monotheism of Judaism, and the religious Jews could not accept Roman polytheism. (It was in this tumultous climate that Christianity first emerged, among a small group of Jews.) After a famine and riots in 66 CE, the Judeans began to revolt against their Roman rulers. The revolt was smashed by Titus Flavius, a Roman general who later succeeded his father Vespasian as emperor. In Rome the Arch of Titus still stands, showing enslaved Judeans and a menorah being brought to Rome. It is customary for Jews not to walk through this arch.

The Romans all but destroyed Jerusalem; only a single "Western Wall" of the Second Temple remained. After the end of this first revolt, the Judeans continued to live in their land in significant numbers, and were allowed to practice their religion. In the second century the Roman Emperor Hadrian began to rebuild Jerusalem as a pagan city while restricting some Jewish practices. Angry at this affront, the Judeans again revolted led by Simon Bar Kokhba. Hadrian responded with overwhelming force, putting down the revolution and killing as many as half a million Jews. After the Roman Legions prevailed in 135, Jews were not allowed to enter the city of Jerusalem and most Jewish worship was forbidden by Rome. Following the destruction of Jerusalem and the expulsion of the Jews, Jewish worship stopped being centrally organized around the Temple, and instead was rebuilt around rabbis who acted as teachers and leaders of individual communities. No new books were added to the Jewish Bible after the Roman period, instead major efforts went into interpreting and developing the Halakhah, or oral law, and writing down these traditions in the Talmud, the key work on the interpretation of Jewish law, written during the first to fifth centuries CE.

RedWine
06-28-2006, 08:35 AM
Though Jews had settled outside Israel since the time of the Babylonians, the results of the Roman response to the Jewish revolt shifted the center of Jewish life from its ancient home to the diaspora. While some Jews remained in Judea, renamed Palestine by the Romans, some Jews were sold into slavery, while others became citizens of other parts of the Roman Empire. This is the traditional explanation to the Jewish diaspora, almost universally accepted by past and present rabbinical or Talmudical scholars, who believe that Jews are almost exclusively biological descendants of the Judean exiles, a belief backed up at least partially by DNA evidence. Some secular historians speculate that a majority of the Jews in Antiquity were most likely descendants of converts in the cities of the Graeco-Roman world, especially in Alexandria and Asia Minor. They were only affected by the diaspora in its spiritual sense and by the sense of loss and homelessness which became a cornerstone of the Jewish creed, much supported by persecutions in various parts of the world. Any such policy of conversion, which spread the Jewish religion throughout Hellenistic civilization, seems to have ended with the wars against the Romans and the following reconstruction of Jewish values for the post-Temple era. DNA evidence of this theory has been spotty, however, some historians believe based on some historical records that at the dawn of Christianity as many as 10% of the population of the Roman Empire were Jewish, a figure that could only be explained by local conversion. This theory could also solve the paradox of DNA studies noted above that show Ashkenazi Jews to be somewhat related to the peoples of the nations surrounding Israel despite physical features that more closely resembles that of the peoples of southern and central Europe; as one explanation would be a large miscegenation millennia ago followed by almost no outside genetic contact thereafter.

During the first few hundred years of the Diaspora, the most important Jewish communities were in Babylonia, where the Talmud was written, and where relatively tolerant regimes allowed the Jews freedom. The situation was worse in the Byzantine Empire which treated the Jews much more harshly, refusing to allow them to hold office or build places of worship. The conquest of much of the Byzantine Empire and Babylonia by Islamic armies generally improved the life of the Jews, though they were still considered second-class citizens. In response to these Islamic conquests, the First Crusade of 1096 attempted to reconquer Jerusalem, resulting in the destruction of many of the remaining Jewish communities in the area.

RedWine
06-28-2006, 08:35 AM
Jews settled in Europe during the time of the Roman Empire, but the rise of the Catholic Church resulted in frequent expulsions and persecutions. The Crusades routinely attacked Jewish communities, and increasingly harsh laws restricted them from most economic activity and land ownership, leaving open only moneylending and a few other trades. Jews were subject to expulsions from England, France, and the Holy Roman Empire throughout the Middle Ages, with most of the population moving to Eastern Europe and especially Poland, which was uniquely tolerant of the Jews through the 1700s. The final mass expulsion of the Jews, and the largest, occurred after the Christian conquest (reconquista) of Spain in 1492 (see History of the Jews in Spain). Even after the end of the expulsions in the 17th century, individual conditions varied from country to country and time to time, but, as rule, Jews in Western Europe generally were forced, by decree or by informal pressure, to live in highly segregated ghettos and shtetls.

RedWine
06-28-2006, 08:35 AM
During the Middle Ages, Jews in Islamic lands generally had more rights than under Christian rule, with a Golden Age of coexistence in Islamic Spain from about 900 to 1200, when Spain became the center of the richest, most populous, and most influential Jewish community of the time. The rise of more radical Muslim regimes, such as that of the Almohades ended this period by the thirteenth century, and Jews were soon expelled from Spain after the Christian reconquest. Many of these Jews found refuge in the Ottoman Empire, which remained tolerant of its Jewish population for much of its history. In the Islamic lands Jews at times were driven by necessity to engage in despised occupations, becoming dancing boys or tavernkeepers.

RedWine
06-28-2006, 08:36 AM
During the Age of Enlightenment, significant changes occurred within the Jewish community. The Haskalah movement paralleled the wider Enlightenment, as Jews began in the 1700s to campaign for emancipation from restrictive laws and integration into the wider European society. Secular and scientific education was added to the traditional religious instruction received by students, and interest in a national Jewish identity, including a revival in the study of Jewish history and Hebrew, started to grow.

The Haskalah movement influenced the birth of all the modern Jewish denominations, and planted the seeds of Zionism. At the same time, it contributed to encouraging cultural assimilation into the countries in which Jews resided. At around the same time another movement was born, one preaching almost the opposite of Haskalah, Hasidic Judaism. Hasidic Judaism began in the 1700s by Israel ben Eliezer, the Baal Shem Tov, and quickly gained a following with its exuberant, mystical approach to religion. These two movements, and the traditional orthodox approach to Judaism from which they spring, formed the basis for the modern divisions within Jewish observance.

At the same time, the outside world was changing. France was the first country to emancipate its Jewish population in 1796, granting them equal rights under the law. Napoleon further spread emancipation, inviting Jews to leave the Jewish ghettos in Europe and seek refuge in the newly created tolerant political regimes (see Napoleon and the Jews). Other countries such as Denmark, England, and Sweden also adopted liberal policies toward Jews during the period of Enlightenment, with some resulting immigration. By the mid-19th century, almost all Western European countries had emancipated their Jewish populations, with the notable exception of the Papal States, but persecution continued in Eastern Europe including massive pogroms at the end of the 19th century and throughout the Pale of Settlement. The persistence of anti-semitism, both violently in the east and socially in the west, led to a number of Jewish political movements, culminating in Zionism.

RedWine
06-28-2006, 08:36 AM
Many of the newly secular Jews who had embraced Haskalah found themselves deeply troubled by the continuing virulent anti-semitism of the late 1800s, especially the massive pogroms of the 1880s in Russia and the Dreyfus Affair, which occurred in France in 1894, a country many Jews had previously thought of as particularly accepting. Many Jews in Eastern Europe embraced socialism as a potential escape from persecution, but another group, the Zionists, led by Theodor Herzl, viewed the only solution as the creation of a Jewish state. The interplay between Jewish national and religious identities was evident in Zionism, which was initially an entirely secular movement, but drew inspiration and support from the religious connection between Jews and the Land of Israel. Zionism contributed to the growth of the Jewish population there, which at the time was the Palestine province of the Ottoman Empire, and later the British Mandate of Palestine. Zionism, initially one out of a number of competing Jewish political movements, gained nearly universal support from the world Jewish population following the near-complete destruction of the Jews of Europe in the Holocaust, and led to the foundation of the State of Israel.

In addition to responding politically, during the late 19th century, Jews began to flee the persecutions of Eastern Europe in large numbers, mostly by heading to the United States, but also to Canada and Western Europe. By 1924, almost two million Jews had emigrated to the US alone, creating a large community in a nation relatively free of the persecutions of rising European anti-Semitism (see History of the Jews in the United States).

RedWine
06-28-2006, 08:36 AM
This anti-Semitism reached its most destructive form in the policies of Nazi Germany, which made the destruction of the Jews a priority, culminating in the killing of approximately six million Jews during the Holocaust from 1941 to 1945. Originally, the Nazis used death squads, the Einsatzgruppen, to conduct massive open-air killings of Jews in territory they conquered. By 1942, the Nazi leadership decided to implement the Final Solution, the genocide of the Jews of Europe, and to increase the pace of the Holocaust by establishing extermination camps specifically to kill Jews. This was an industrial method of genocide. Millions of Jews who had been confined to diseased and massively overcrowded Ghettos were transported (often by train) to these "Death-camps" where they were herded into a specific location (often a gas chamber), then either gassed or shot. Afterwards, their remains were buried or burned up. Many Jews tried to escape Europe before or during the Holocaust, but were unable to find refuge, giving new urgency to the Zionist goal of establishing a Jewish homeland.

RedWine
08-24-2006, 09:30 AM
يهوديان در مراسم روزانه مذهبی خود که تفيلا خوانده می شود، تسمه ای سياه رنگ به دور بازوی چپ و انگشت کوچک دست چپ بسته، جعبه سياه کوچکی به پيشانی می بندند که درون آن کلماتی از تورات نوشته شده است.
آن گونه که در اين کلمات اشاره شده، علت بستن تسمه چرمی به دور دست چپ نزديک بودن به قلب و علت بستن جعبه سياه کوچک روی سر نزديک بودن آن به مغز است.

نمازگزار سپس روپوش سفيدرنگی که طليت خوانده می شود به سر می اندازد و تورات در دست گرفته به خواندن دعا مشغول می شود.

تفيلا بايد صبحها پس از برخاستن از خواب انجام گيرد و از اين رو شحريت (سحری) خوانده می شود.

تفيلا که از واجبات روزانه پيروان دين يهود است به شکل مفصلتری در کنيسه ها به صورت دسته جمعی برگزار می شود.

در کنيسه ای واقع در محله يوسف آباد تهران، يهوديان در روزهای دوشنبه و پنجشنبه هر هفته مراسم تفيلا را به جا می آورند.

در بسياری از کنيسه ها نسخه ای کهن از تورات نگهداری می شود که اين نسخه بايد پوشانده شده، در مکانی محفوظ پنهان گردد.

هنگامی که نماز تفيلا به صورت دسته جمعی در کنيسه برگزار می شود، اين نسخه کهن تورات را بيرون آورده، پس از قرائت به جايگاهش باز می گردانند.

تفيلا خاص مردان است و زنان در موارد بسيار نادر، تنها در صورتی که سرپرست خانواده بوده و مردی در خانواده نداشته باشند، با اجازه اوليای کنيسه می توانند اين مراسم را به جا آورند.

Sepideh_UK
08-25-2006, 03:03 PM
F**king Hell man!!
These are even worse than mullas.

DariushM
08-25-2006, 10:20 PM
loool
christian ha ke dige hichi

tatatapesh
08-26-2006, 12:38 PM
قومی متفکرند اندر ره دین
قومی به گمان فتاده در راه یقین

:confused: :confused: :confused:

میترسم از آنروز که بانگ بردارند
ای بیخبران راه نه آن است و نه این

mike435
08-27-2006, 05:09 PM
F**king Hell man!!
These are even worse than mullas.

LOLOLOLOLOOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

dont speak if you dont know

donsaeid
08-27-2006, 10:24 PM
يهود در دوران معاصر



«مهدي طائب»، محقق، مدرس و پژوهشگر درد آشنايي است كه پس از تحصيلات و مطالعات گسترده در حوزه*هاي مختلف علوم حوزوي، جمع كثيري از طلاب و دانشجويان اين ديار را از مشرب علم و آگاهي خود سيراب مي*سازد. مطالعات ژرف ايشان دربارة تاريخ و پيشينة يهود و بني*اسراييل موجب بود تا گفت*وگويي صميمانه در اين باب گشوده شود.


* نقش يهود را در دوران رنسانس چه مي‏دانيد؟

_ يهود يك صفت آموزشي و تجربي بسيار مهم دارند و آن صفت «پنهان‏كاري» است. در نتيجه، حضور يهود در صحنه‏هاي سياسي بين‏الملل و اثرگذاري*هايشان هميشه پنهان مي‏ماند. شكل علني حضور يهود تنها از زمان اقدام آنها براي ايجاد كشور «اسراييل» در منطقه فلسطين قابل مشاهده است و روابط آشكار آنها در سطح بين*المللي، تنها پس از اين اقدام قابل مشاهده است. به دليل اين صفت، دستيابي به تأثير اين سازمان در سياست بين‏الملل نياز به دقت فراوان و مطالعة دقيق بر روي آثار دارد.
حضرت علي(ع) مي‏فرمايد:
إنّ الفتن إذا أقبلت شبهّت و إذا أدبرت نبهّت.1
[هنگامي كه فتنه*ها رومي*آورند حق و باطل درهم آميخته و چون از ميان روند حقيقت آشكار شود.]
فتنه وقتي عبور مي*كند شناخته مي*شود. فتنه اصولاً يك فعاليت پنهاني است و فعاليت پنهاني تا زماني كه تأثير نگذارده است پنهاني باقي مي‏ماند و هنگامي كه اثر خود را گذاشت علني مي‏شود. «اِدبار فتنه» يعني انجام فتنه، اثرگذاري آن و رفتن.
بنابراين دربارة اثرگذاري يهود در تاريخ معاصر ـ اگر تاريخ معاصر را تاريخ چهارصد سال اخير بدانيم ـ بايد گفت: چند گزينه وجود دارد كه براي بررسي نقش يهود در تاريخ معاصر آن*را بايد مورد توجه قرار دهيم. نخست جمعيت و تعداد آنها؛ دوم ميزان اخباري كه از اين مجموعه در رخدادها وجود دارد؛ سوم تأثير اين رخدادها بر تحولات سياسي دنيا؛ چهارم توجه به ميزان دارايي‏هاي اين مجموعه و پنجم حضورشان در تجارت بين‏الملل.
اگر اين گزينه‏ها را در كنار يكديگر قرار دهيم، مي‏توانيم نقش پنهاني يهود را تا حدي علني كنيم.
آمار فعلي جمعيت يهود حدود 5/16 ميليون نفر در كل دنيا است، با توجه به اينكه جمعيت جهان در چهارصد سال پيش بسيار كمتر از جمعيت فعلي بوده است، جمعيت يهود نيز چندان چشمگير نبوده است.2 يك جمعيت قليل بايد به همين نسبت اخبار (جهاني) را به خود اختصاص دهد ولي وقتي وارد صحنه اخبار مي‏شويم با كمال تعجب مشاهده مي‏كنيم بيش از اين مقدار اخبار به آنها اختصاص دارد. اخبار كتك خوردن و شكنجه شدن آنها، سوزانيده شدن و تبعيد آنها، برخوردهاي ناروا با اين قوم و... در حالي كه طبق ادعاي خودشان كه مي‏گويند ما مجموعه‏اي آرام و بي دردسر و به دور از هياهوهاي اجتماعي هستيم و كاري به كار ديگران نداريم، چه دليلي دارد كه اين مقدار اخبار درگيري*ها با نام آنها آميخته شده است. هرگاه نام درگيري به ميان مي‏آيد يك طرف و يا هر دو طرف در صدد گرفتن منافع طرف متقابل است. يا هر دو بر باطل هستند و يا يك طرف باطل و طرف ديگر برحق است، دو طرف نمي‏توانند برحق باشند. ما ابتداءاً نمي‏گوييم آنها بر باطلند، ولي به هر حال منفعتي وجود دارد كه يا در دست اينهاست و ديگران در صدد گرفتن آن هستند و يا در دست ديگران است و آنها مي‏خواهند آن را تصاحب كنند. حال اين قوم گوشه‏گير و آرام چه چيزي دارد كه ديگران بخواهند از آنها بگيرند. آنها در پي توسعه دين خود به ساير ملل هم نيستند. دين آنها نژادي است و درون همين مجموعه در حال چرخش است.
بنابراين بحث ديگران با اينها بحث دين نيست. مي*ماند بحث دنيايي. يك جمعيت 16 ميليوني در كل جهان چهار ميلياردي چه منافعي دارد كه اينقدر بر سرش دعوا و جنگ مي‏شود. پس توجه به مقدار دعواها مخصوصاً به مقدار تبعيدهايي كه در كشورهاي اروپايي داشته‏اند؛ در لهستان، مجارستان، اسپانيا، منطقه بين‏النهرين يعني بابل و عراق، جاي دقت فراواني دارد كه چه اتفاقي باعث مي‏شود آنها را از منطقه قبلي*شان برانند. آنها به جاي ديگر مي‏رفتند و يكباره همه اخبار آن منطقه تحت الشعاع آنها قرار مي‏گرفت. بنابراين رابطة جمعيت و اخبار نشان مي‏دهد آنها اقدامات پنهاني وسيعي داشته‏اند كه آن حكومت اطلاع پيدا مي‏كرده؛ يا با آنها درگير مي*شده است و يا حكومت در اختيارشان بوده است و درگيري*ها صوري بوده است.
مسئله سوم دارايي و ثروت يهود است. طي اين چهارصد سال يهود بر امكانات مالي دنيا سلطه داشته‏اند. ما نسبت به دارايي يهود بخل نداريم ولي انگيزة يهود از جمع‏آوري اين دارايي چه بوده است. در حالي كه ادعا مي‏كنند ما يك مجموعة آخرت*گرا هستيم. يك مجموعة آخرت*گرا طبيعتاً نسبت به دنيا بي*ميل است. اگر يهود ادعاي حكومت و سلطه نداشتند پس نياز به اين مقدار ثروت نيز نداشتند. جمع‏آوري اين مقدار ثروت و امكانات طبيعتاً با آرام و كناره‏گير بودن يهود سازگاري ندارد. در نتيجه بحث سكوت و آرامش يهود تنها ريا و تظاهر است. من توصيه مي‏كنم كتاب زرسالاران يهودي و پارسي (اثر آثاي دكتر شهبازي) را مطالعه كنيد. در اين كتاب بحث پول*گرايي يهود طي چهارصد سال اخير مورد بررسي قرار گرفته است. در واقع توجه به ثروت و قدرت بيش از اندازه يهود، از اقداماتشان خبر مي‏دهد.
اگر بخواهيم اقدامات اثرگذار يهود بر سياست‏هاي چهارصد ساله اخير را درك كنيم بايد شخصيت اثرگذاران بر سياست چهارصد ساله را بشناسيم. بايد بررسي كنيم چند درصد از اين افراد از سازمان يهود بوده‏اند. شخصيت‏هايي كه در كشف قاره‏ها مؤثر بوده‏اند مانند «كريستف كلمب» و شخصيت‏هايي كه در ايجاد مكتب‏هاي سياسي پايه و اصولي تأثيرگذار بوده‏اند كه منجر به تشكيل حاكميت‏هاي جديد شد، مانند «هگل»، «فويور باخ» و «كانت» حتي شخصيت افرادي مانند «لوتر» و «كالوين» بايد بررسي شود. تا مشخص شود، اين مجموعه در خط دهي سياست جهاني تا چه حد تأثيرگذار هستند. و آخرين بحث كه مطالعه در آن بسيار ضروري مي‏باشد بحث جمعيت «فراماسونري» و «روتاري» است كه يكي از حساس‏ترين اقدامات اين سازمان است.
از مجموعه مطالعات دربارة اين سازمان به دست مي‏آيد كه يهود براي جهاني شدن دو خط را دنبال كرده‏اند؛ يكي خط «سلطة پنهان» و ديگري خط «سلطه آشكار» كه خط سلطه آشكار، بعد از خط سلطه پنهان و پس از آن است. سلطه پنهان به اين معنا كه مجموعه حكومت‏هاي دنيا كه در جغرافيايي سياسي جزء جزء شكل مي‏گيرد. در اين جغرافياي سياسي حاكم علني، منطقه‏اي و مربوط به همان كشور است اما به شكل پنهان متأثر از سازمان يهود است. ايران (زمان شاه)، عراق، عربستان، تركيه، بلغارستان، انگلستان و فرانسه همگي كشورهاي جداگانه و مستقلي هستند اما به شكل پنهان به دست اينها اداره مي‏شود، تا در راستاي منافعشان حركت كند. آخرين مدل اين سلطه پنهان كه تا حدي پس از آن افشا نشد، جمعيت فراماسونري است. جمعيت فراماسونري جمعيتي است كه از يك ايده و مكتب و تفكر سياسي شكل مي‏گيرد و در اين جمعيت به دين اهميتي داده نمي‏شود. كسي كه در اين جمعيت است، لازم نيست دين مشخص داشته باشد، بلكه وقتي وارد اين جمعيت مي‏شود از لحاظ سياسي بايد تابع «لژ مركزي» باشد. شاه ايران نيز ايراني و مسلمان است ولي جزو مكتب فراماسونري است. يعني از نظر اجرايي تابع اينهاست. اين جمعيت، جمعيت روتاري به معني چرخ دنده را تشكيل مي‏دهد. يعني هر يك از اين حاكم‏ها يك چرخ دنده است كه به يكديگر متصلند و به وسيله موتور مركزي فراماسونري به چرخش در مي‏آيند. آري دنيا تحت سلطه يهود مي‏چرخد اما به شكل پنهان و نه آشكارا. شناسايي سازمان يهود در پيدايش جمعيت فراماسونري و اداره آن، دخالت اين مجموعه را در سياست‏هاي چهارصد سال اخير به خوبي نمايان مي‏كند. و بالاخره در جنگ جهاني دوم براي دريافت اثرگذاري اين مجموعه بر سياست بين‏المللي بايد در پيدايش جنگ جهاني دوم دقت كنيم.
مطالعه مجدد بر روي شخصيت «هيتلر» و اين موضوع بسيار مهم كه نتيجه نهايي جنگ جهاني دوم چه بود و چه كسي از اين جنگ سود برد. اگر بخواهيم براي اين جنگ يك نتيجه ملموس ارائه دهيم مي‏توانيم به پيدايش كشور اسراييل اشاره كنيم و مشاهده مي‏كنيم، هيتلر بهترين خدمت را به جمعيت يهود كرد، ولي در اين ميان ناسزاهاي زيادي را به جان خريد كه براي يك مأمور درون سازماني عادي به شمار مي‏آيد. در حقيقت با ايجاد كوره‏هاي آدم سوزي در اخبار و اطلاعات، و نه بر روي زمين، چون بر روي زمين كوره آدم سوزي وجود ندارد و اگر وجود هم داشته است، يهودي در آن سوخته نشده است.

donsaeid
08-27-2006, 10:25 PM
در سازمان يهود اكثريت يك مجموعه‏اند، تنها يك اقليت مؤمن هستند كه به اين قضيه تن ندادند. ما ادلة فراواني بر دروغ بودن كوره‏هاي آدم سوزي وجود دارد. اولاً كوره‏هاي آدم سوزي شاهدي ندارند هر چه هست از عكس‏ها و فيلم‏هايي است كه نشان داده مي‏شود. آنچه هم از عكس‏ها ديده مي‏شود دروغ است. چون آنطور كه مي‏گويند، آنقدر در اين كوره‏ها آتش ريخته مي‏شود كه چيزي جز خاكستر باقي نمي‏ماند. در حالي كه در عكس‏ها اين كوره‏ها مملو از استخوان و جمجمه انسان است كه به شكل بچه*گانه‏اي روي هم چيده شده است. در اينچنين كوره‏هايي كه آدم مي‏سوزانند ديگر نظمي وجود نخواهد داشت، در حالي كه در تصاوير جمجمه‏ها روي هم چيده شده است. با يك نگاه به اين تصاوير مي‏توان فهميد كه اين قضيه يك بازي اطلاعاتي و خبري است. اصولاً در كشوري به بزرگي آلمان اقدام به سوزاندان يهودي‏ها نيازي را از هيتلر برطرف نمي‏ساخته است. هيتلر بحث نژاد را براي حكومت مطرح مي‏كند. مي‏گويد ما نژاد برتر هستيم و ديگران بايد به ما خدمت كنند، او مي‏توانسته يهود را مانند ديگران نگاه دارد تا به آنها خدمت كنند. به طور كلي هيتلر يكي از هنرمندترين فردها در پوشش دادن به اهداف در كل جنگ جهاني دوم است.
بنابراين مي‏توان گفت كه يهود در برابر اسلام نقش افسادي وسيعي را بر عهده داشتند در جهان معاصر نيز همان نقش را ادامه داده‏اند كه نقش افساد و تبهكاري است.
مردم دنيا هميشه جهود و يهودي‏ها را آتش‏بيار معركه‏ها مي‏دانسته‏اند، در حالي كه مردم كوچه و بازار تا وقتي كه دردي را با تمام وجود حسي نكنند نسبت به آن مسئله اعلان درد نمي‏كنند. پس چرا اين مجموعة آرام و بي سر و صداي بين المللي داد ملت‏ها را درآورده است. مشخص مي‏شود فساد و تبهكاري اينها براي مردم روشن گرديده است. چون مردم فتنه‏ها را بعد از گذشتن مي‏فهميده‏اند و امروز به دليل وجود دولت اسراييل، همه مي‏توانند اين قضيه را درك كنند.
شبكه‏هاي ضد انقلاب ايراني كه در لس‏آنجلس و واشنگتن و كاليفرنيا پخش مي‏شود، هيچ*كدام اعلام نمي‏كنند وابسته به سازمان صهيونيسم هستند. بلكه اعلام مي‏كنند مستقل هستند در حالي كه از آثارشان مي‏توان فهميد همگي از جانب اسراييل حمايت مي‏شوند. گاهي بعضي اتفاقات ماهيت آنها را افشا مي‏كند. اخيراً فيلم يك دختر فلسطيني كه يهود مي‏خواسته چشم او را از بدنش جدا كند تابه فرد ديگر پيوند بزنند در آمريكا پخش شد. اين فيلم عليه جريان صهيونيست‏ها بود. صهيونيست‏ها جمعيتي حدود چهار ميليون در اسراييل و در كل آمريكا حدود دو ميليون نفر دارند. در آمريكا اصطلاحي وجود دارد به معني «درياي فيلم آزاد» يعني فيلم عليه خدا، عليه آقاي بوش و... آزادانه پخش مي‏شود. اما به محض اينكه اين فيلم پخش شد وزارت امور خارجه امريكا موضع گرفت. از اين موضع‏گيري مي‏توان نتيجه گرفت اسراييل در هيئت حاكمه آمريكا حضور پنهان دارد. بلافاصله شبكه‏هاي فارسي زبان ضد انقلاب شروع به پخش فيلم‏هاي تبليغاتي در مورد آقاي «رون آرود» كردند؛ خلباني كه 18 سال پيش در حالي كه مأموريت بمباران مردم لبنان راداشته است سقوط كرده است. و جالب اينكه «مونشه امير» در مصاحبه با اين تلويزيون‏ها مي‏گويد: اين هواپيما در حالي كه خاك لبنان براي دفاع از اسراييل پرواز مي‏كرده است سقوط مي‏كند. در حالي كه اين گونه سخن گفتن را هيچ منطقي قبول نمي‏كند. هواپيما براي دفاع از اسراييل چه كاري به لبنان داشته است. اين تلويزيون‏ها خط سير زندگي او را بيان مي‏كنند و بعد به سراغ خانواده اين خلبان مي‏روند و مي‏گويند، آقاي رون آرود در آن زمان دختري يك ساله داشته است كه در اين زمان 19 ساله شده است و اين دختر به دنبال پدر خود مي‏گردد. فيلم اين دختر را در سنين مختلف نشان مي‏دهند، در حالي كه اشك مي*ريزد و... مطرح مي‏كنند كه مادر رون آرود از غم او از دنيا رفته است. در حالي كه مادر او هنگام سقوط هواپيما 60 سال داشته و حال كه با سني حدود 80 سال مرده، مي‏گويد از غم پسرش مرده است. به هر صورت با ساخت فيلمي در مورد مظلوميت آقاي رون آرود و دخترش سعي بر مقابله تبليغاتي عليه فيلم دختري فلسطيني مي‏كنند كه مي‏خواهند چشم او را جدا كنند و پيوند بزنند. اين موضوع نشان مي‏دهد اين تلويزيون‏ها توسط يهود اداره مي‏شود.

* يهود در خود مسئله رنسانس چه تأثيري داشته‏اند؟
_ مهمترين عامل در رنسانس، خارج كردن دين از جهان سياست است. ادعا مي‏كنند دين و حضور كليسا مانع پيشرفت بشر در امور مادي است و دين را از سياست جدا مي‏كنند و وارد دوره جديدي مي‏شوند. كنار رفتن دين در جهان سياست باعث مي‏شود تفكري كه به دنبال نيروي اثرگذار در سياست مي‏گردد از بين برود. يعني شعور سياسي عميق از بين مي‏رود. حاكمان تبديل به افرادي مي‏شوند كه تنها به فكر توسعه كارخانجات، زمين‏هاي كشاورزي و... هستند. چون وقتي كليسا حكومت مي‏كند اول در جهت نيروي اثرگذار فكر مي‏كند چون بالاخره دين به حكومت شكل مي‏دهد. اما در اين نوع حكومت‏ها ديگر سلطه پنهان به راحتي مي‏تواند، به بهره‏برداري خود بپردازد. در نتيجه در رنسانس، يهود به سلطة پنهان خود يك بعد نزديك‏تر شدند. چون تا قبل از آن كليسا نمي‏گذاشت يهود به راحتي به فعاليت بپردازند. بحث رنسانس بحث بسيار پيچيده‏اي است و نياز به مطالعه و تحقيق فراوان در اين رابطه مي‏باشد.

* نظر شما راجع به نگرش مسيحيت صهيونيست چيست؟
_ بنده احساس مي‏كنم بحث مسيحيت صهيونيستي و خود بحث صهيونيسم، بحث جديدي نيست. اين دو تابع همديگر هستند. تا قبل از پيدايش كشور اسراييل بحث صهيونيسم در افكار بين‏الملل مطرح نيست، ولي وجود دارد. بحث جمع شدن در كوه «صهيون» مطلبي نيست كه «هرتزل»2 و امثال او پايه‏گذاري كرده باشند. اين يك تفكر توراتي منحرف است. يعني بعد از اينكه اينها از خط اصلي خود فاصله گرفتند، به اين فكر افتادند و ساليان متمادي براي رسيدن به اين نقطه تلاش كردند. بعد از آن بحث ظهور اين تفكر در صحنه بين الملل مطرح بود؛ مسيحيت صهيونيست نيز به همين صورت است. مسيحيت صهيونيست يعني، مسيحيتي كه بر امري به نفع صهيونيست*هاست معتقد باشد و الّاّ مسيحيت يهودي كه اجتماع آب و آتش است.
صهيونيست يعني يهودي كه معتقد است در كوه صهيون بايد حكومت داشته باشند و مسيحي يعني كسي كه اعتقاد به عيسي(ع) دارد و يهود را قاتل پيغمبر خود مي‏داند. پس اگر اين اصطلاح عنوان مي‏شود، يعني مسيحيت با اعتقاد به مسئله‏اي كه به نفع يهودي‏هاست. جهان مسيحيت منتظر حضرت عيسي(ع) است و معناي انجيل‏ يعني بشارت، كه آنها مي‏گويند بشارت به ظهور حضرت عيسي(ع) است. آنها براي ظهور عيسي(ع) به علائم و شرايطي اعتقاد دارند كه با وقوع اين علائم و شرايط حضرت عيسي(ع) ظهور مي‏كند. از جمله شرايطي كه آن‏ها متعتقدند، به دست يهود افتادن حكومت محل ظهور حضرت عيسي(ع) است. ظاهراً مي‏گويند عيسي در منطقه فلسطين ودر اورشليم، يعني بيت المقدس، ظهور مي‏كند. بنابراين در بيت‏المقدس بايد حكومت يهودي مستقر باشد. صهيونيسم هم معتقد است، بيت المقدس محل حكومت يهود است كه خدا آنرا به اينها بخشيده است و در واقع صهيونيسم يعني كساني كه معتقد به لزوم حاكميت يهود در كوه صهيون (zion) هستند.
در نتيجه مسيحيان صهيونيست كساني هستند كه براي حكومت يهود در اورشليم و بيت المقدس تلاش و فعاليت مي‏كنند. اگر كشيش «پولس» را نفوذي مجموعه يهود در دين مسيحيت بدانيم و او توسط «برنابا» شناسايي شد و «شائول» به عنوان مردي خطاكار معرفي شد، تفكر آشتي دادن آيين مسيحيت با يهود و انضمام فكري مسيحيت به تفكري كه به نفع يهود نتيجه بدهد، در همان زمان وارد شده است. ولي همان طور كه يهود مخفيانه عمل مي‏كند، اين تفكر نيز به عنوان يك لايه سرّي باقي مانده است. زماني كه دولت اسراييل ـ به وجود مي‏آيد و علني مي‏شود اين تفكر نيز در بين آنها آرام آرام توسط كشيش‏هايي كه وابسته به اين جريان هستند، زنده مي‏شود. آنها مي‏گويند، ما بايد به دولت اسراييل كمك كنيم تا هر چه زودتر در بيت‏المقدس حاكميت پيدا كند تا عيسي(ع) ظهور كند و جهان ما را نجات دهد. بر همين اساس ما مي‏بينيم صهيونيست‏ها در آمريكا توسط دولتمردان اين كشور به گونه‏اي با كليسا برخورد مي‏كنند تا اين تفكر زنده شود و از طريق كليسا به مسيحيان آمريكا نيز القا شود تا رأي مسيحيان آمريكا به نفع هيأت حاكمه‏اي ت