Roshan Fekr-e- Dini Kist?

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[BehnazNaNaz]

be nazare man roshanfekre dini kasi hast ke koorkoorane az dastoorat etaat nemikonad balke dar an tafakor mikonad
ghoran dar 1 aye dar morede hejab sefaresh karde vali 1 aye dar mioon mige va homol motefakkeroon

[donsaeid]

gol gofti

[Rasputin]

be nazare man roshanfekre dini kasi hast ke koorkoorane az dastoorat etaat nemikonad balke dar an tafakor mikonad
ghoran dar 1 aye dar morede hejab sefaresh karde vali 1 aye dar mioon mige va homol motefakkeroon

Misheh address. chand ta az in ''roshanfekr haei'' ro keh migi,beh man ham bedi ? kheili konjkavam bedounam,aslan hamchin chizi darim ya nah !

[mike435]

you dont need to look anywere

look with in your self you have it you just have to find it

[Rasputin]

you dont need to look anywere

look with in your self you have it you just have to find it

To find what !?... I don't believe in any religion,then sorry,i don't have it and neither need it !

[BehnazNaNaz]

siamak jan va mike435
zendegi hamash dine
ma be din ehtiaj darim
sher nemigam
age too donia be chizi eteghad nadashte bashi,donia tarsnak mishe va be samte khorafat keshide mishi
hameh chiz bastegi be khoda dare
age to mitooni baraie matlab post koni be khatere ine ke oon ino mikhad vagarna alan maloom nabood koja boodi
mike435 khoda be ma 2 ta cheshm dade ta doniasho bebinim vali ma gahi faghat zeshtiasho mibinim.vaghti to dari ghoran mikhooni yade nematash miofti va hes mikoni be raeese in donia nazdik tari
vaghti doa mikoni ghashangi haie zendegi ro behtar mifahmi na behtar begam taze mibinishoon
man na akhoondam na vase in harfa pool migiram faghat va faghat eteghadate shakhsime mibini ke omolam nistam va axam bi hejabe
amma ma baraie zendegi be khoda ehtiaj darim
pedar va madar doost ashena hamishe pishet nistan vali khoda hamishe hast
khoda hamoonie ke bein harfet nemipare va maskhareat nemikone
man be khoda be peighambare eslam va be ghoran eteghad daram va daro nadamo madioone oona midoonam

[BehnazNaNaz]

Misheh address. chand ta az in ''roshanfekr haei'' ro keh migi,beh man ham bedi ? kheili konjkavam bedounam,aslan hamchin chizi darim ya nah !

ghabool daram kaman vali hastan
kasaii ke ba deleshoon harf mizanan na ba zaboon
baazi ha ye toori harf mizanan engar ta hala gonah nakardan dar soorati ke faght 14 nafar too donia gonah nakardan

[Rasputin]

Behnaz jan ...

Din baray-e behtar zendegi kardan umadeh va baray-e komak kardan beh ensan ha,vali dar hich sharayeti in 'din' natunesteh dorost piadeh besheh chounkeh afradi keh bayad anha ro neshan midadan,afrad-e kameli naboudan va hamisheh mazhab baes-e khun rizi va marg shodeh dar tarikh-e ensan ha !

Man shakhsan beh Khoda e'eteghad daram va hamin baram bas hast ! chounkeh az Khoda kheili chizha dar zendegim dideham keh HICH rabti beh mazhab va in masael nadashtehand pas beh in marateb,zendegi-e man kamel va por beh pish mireh ! baray-e hamin Behnaz jan nabayad Khoda ro hich vaght ba mazhab ghati kard ! Shoma beh har chizi keh e'eteghad darid, ghabel-e ehteram hast.

[BehnazNaNaz]

mer30 siamak jan az harfat
man ham be hame kas hatta oona ii ke be khoda eteghad nadaran ehteram mizaram
vali faghat hamino begam ke be ghole khodet afrade sare kar amade adamaie khoobi naboodan va az in natije migirim din baiad az hokoomat joda beshe
jomhoorie eslami bi jomhoorie eslami

[mike435]

ok i dono if this is roshan fekri or not but here is one inctence were i found rellligion to be good and roshan fekr

many time religious people are good becuase you should be afraid of g-d
i did not belive such a thing i thogh one should be good for the sake of being good
than i met some ulta religious jews who lived life by the torah
the said being good for the sake of being good is not enogh
you should be good not just becuase you fear g-d but mainly becuase you want to spread g-dly ness a good

and i think that is beutiful if you live by that mato
everything you touch you dont do it for the sake of doing it you are doing for the sake of spreading g-dly ness

you work not to just make money but work to do a good like elevating humanity

look this doesnt have to be just work perspective it could be applied to anything from school work to normal everyday stuff

the ultra orthodox jews i met cosiderd living the expression of g-ds reason for creation which is expression of loving and kindness and that is why many of them every act they did its altrior motive was that philosophy of expresion. This style of thinking applies so deeply that it should govern every aspect of life from eating to act of sex.

so where is roshan fekr in all this
when you uphold the value of good and overight or intrepet some writen rules so it would fufil the grand philosophy

example
very basic is
it is forbiden in the jewish religion to eat say pork infact i think eating pork is more striktly enphisied than eating non kosher but anyways
if you are starving and their is a chanc you could die it would be imoral and a sin for you not to eat the pork becuase you had a chance to save your life but you didnt.

i dono i am not very religious to know all these roshan fekries but i am sure
they are their

[Rasputin]

mer30 siamak jan az harfat
man ham be hame kas hatta oona ii ke be khoda eteghad nadaran ehteram mizaram
vali faghat hamino begam ke be ghole khodet afrade sare kar amade adamaie khoobi naboodan va az in natije migirim din baiad az hokoomat joda beshe
jomhoorie eslami bi jomhoorie eslami

Daghighan Behnaz jan !

Din bayad az syasat joda basheh,beh khosous keh mardom digeh goul nemikhoran ! digeh mesl-e ghadim nist keh har chi beheshoun begi,bavar konan, va rouzi keh in jaryan anjam besheh dar Iran,mardom azadi khahan dasht keh kari ro anjam bedahan keh dorost midunan.

[BehnazNaNaz]

vaghean nemidoonam chi begam
chetori mishe ham jomhoori bashe ham eslami?
jomhoori az kalamei jomhoor ke dar farsi ghadim manaie mardom ro mide miad
pas jomhoori yani male mardom
alan boro az 2khtaraie iran bepors 1 dar sad be dashtan roosari zoori razie
jomhoorie eslami maana nadare

[BehnazNaNaz]

ba in harfa fekr nakonid tarafdare shahansha ariamehram
man tarafdare ye jomhoori too iranam na jomhoori eslami

[Inquisitor]

baazi ha ye toori harf mizanan engar ta hala gonah nakardan dar soorati ke faght 14 nafar too donia gonah nakardan

Can you elaborate more please ? what do you mean by 14 ? You mean 14 infallibles. If so !!! how about prophets before them ? From Adam (as) to Jesus (pbuh)