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zubin
10-08-2006, 11:00 PM
Do you think if the US stopped interfering with Iran, the Iran administration would ease human rights abuses?

I'm interested in your votes and opinions...

mike435
10-09-2006, 12:01 AM
not really

bunch of g-d less akhoonds

golgol85
10-09-2006, 01:16 AM
the people in power in iran arent scared or intimidated by anyone or anything. its sad how innocent lives are lost just so they can prove to the world they have power over freedom of speech and can control the thoughts of their people. US interference doesnt do jack squat, we still see people hung and executed who havent done a single thing wrong other than voice their opinions! if the US is so good, it should take care of its own problems, but unfortunately it cant take care of its own problems or those of countries like Iran.

zubin
10-09-2006, 05:52 AM
I guess the question relates to why the administration goes tough on the people. Historically and the evidence seems to show, they are going tough on the people because of the cultural interference of the US and "cleansing" its population against that cultural interference.

So to me it seems clear that US interference is both untenable and ineffective, in fact ineffective because it is untenable. At the very least, US interference undermines the Iranian people's own struggle for their own kind of freedom. It also gives reason to the Iran administration to be tough and reactionary.

It's interesting that these things are widely contested. In this case, there must be some truth. There must be conditions that help the people's struggle or conditions that don't. At the very least, we should have mechanisms for arriving at some sort of objective answer... or for objective dialogue...

Thanks for your 3 cents. I hope we can discuss this further. Don't forget to kick back and have a nice glass of sparkling apple juice.

Ramin

zubin
10-09-2006, 06:26 AM
I guess one reason why it is difficult to accept the possibility of eased human rights abuse is that its so easy to simplify the matter to an issue of Islamic law. The Iran administration can be easily be taken to have the administration of Islamic law, in its strictness forms, as their subconscious and conscious goals.

But even if that contestable claim is true (it at least has some credibility), the fact is that there is SO MUCH pressure domestically and from the international community for change in Iran. Needless to say, this pressure gets more and more by the second as the world becomes smaller, and people's empathic tendencies enhanced. Change is clearly inevitable. Increased US pressure and interference is simply overkill. And the intentions and drive of such pressure is also highly suspect.

I hope this made sense and would be interested in understanding some alternative perspectives on these points...