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    salam
    labod ta be hal kalameie medium ra shenideid
    agar nashnidid man behetoon migam
    medium ha adam hai hastand ke mitavanand 1 ya chand ta az ghodrat haie zir ra dashte bashand
    1=ertebat ba arvah
    2=pishbinie ayande ia hal
    3=fekr khandan
    4=har chizi ke fekr konand etefagh mioftad
    chera in thread ro baz kardam?choon khodam medium hastam va mikham bedoonid ke sakht tarin kare donia yek ghodrate ezafi tar az digaran dashtan ast
    ghodrate bishtar masooliat ra bishtar mikonad...

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    Of forehead to one my specific demand, the medium supports to have had very many replies on the veridicità of the information obtained for medianica way. Among other things it supports of already to have been examined from much people, psychologists and students several, between which father Paschal Ulderico Magni, clergyman that they give years takes care itself of paranormali phenomena. Showing much expectant one it is made to examine also from the CICAP, we fix an appointment. Oltretutto comes me said that just in those days the genovese daily paper Mercantile Courier had dedicated to the medium a wide service. The service of Mercantile courier The number of the Mercantile Courier of 11 fridays January 2002 (edition of Chiavari and Levante), filler in first page a showy article from the title it: “Leivi. In pilgrimage for being it helps you from the veggente. Many also from abroad”. Under the title it one photo to colors of the medium. To page 5 nearly average page (to company of Luca Ginocchio) equipped with others appears the immense service two photographies. The service is constituted from two articles. In the first one they come described the faculties of the medium, second how much from illustrated same she. In the interview the medium asserts among other things: “If these faculties are emerged in me, it is because my spirit has been opened to a disowned world, the “Sky more”, and the light entities make me to be annoying in their universal world”. In according to article it is spoken instead of the two books of the medium and it is specified that they are reperibili in many bookcases of the Tigullio. The first book is a collection of poems inspired from the afterlife and intito it the poetry sky. The second, the sky is told, instead is finalized “to illustrate a selection of the messages” that the medium receives daily The book has the such preface of professor a Carluccio Bonesso, introduced like parapsicologia student. In the preface the student writes: “I have had to fight with the scientific doubt of my formation of psychologist and with the questions and the interpretations that usually psychical pathology proposes. Then the answer pian slowly has come and they are felt to me been involved from the extrasensory ability. [...] The spirits that communicate with Elena make cargo of a pedagogical, progressive and educational distance and moreover the damage scientific and theological information”. In the service of the Mercantile Courier it is emphasized from abroad moreover like very many people, coming from also, addresses at this point to the medium in order “to establish a contact with the defunct beloveds” but also “in order to resolve problems of varied kind, like tensions and paranoias”. Naturally, it comes also brought back the precise address of the medium. Insomma, an advertising service in full rule. The encounter with the medium The evening of 16 January, in company of my friend and associate CICAP Silvano Vergoli, I o from the medium that lives in one magnificent villetta on the heights of Chiavari. A lot receives us cordial. Blond mrs. is one on the sessantina. It makes us to repair and, on our demand, she illustrates all the powers that that believes of having and it has uncovered to possess give approximately one ten of years. Beyond to its faculties that to already had illustrated me by telephone, she says of being able to write poetries dictated from the spirits (collections in the book) and to paint pictures quite “she inspires to you” from the afterlife. Us of extension one. It holds to us to emphasize that there is a strange likeness between its medianici pictures and the famous circles in the grain (in what us extension simply appears one series of circles of various diameters on blue bottom). It asserts also of being in a position to releasing medianiche photographies aiming the camera for the sky. Us extension some photography: in they due to the glare of the diaphragm and the objective probably appear of the shapeless spots of light (). In these photos it supports to succeed to characterize faces, crosses and other details. We sincerely do not see null of all that. Much available one, the medium chip ax also is made to photograph with me. It emerges also that the medium does not know well that what is the CICAP (this plays sure to our favor) and explains because it held to us so much to being examined from we. After the chat it begins I ask them the medium if she can give to us one practical demonstration of its powers and mrs. Elena chip ax of good degree. We are based to the table and the medium begins to evoke David that, punctually answers. In order to subject to control the medium I had previously prepared one series of questions to place the spirit of sure Cesar Bertagnini. Costui was chemical an organic one of the ight hundred, died to prematurely single ones 30 years. In the box of pag. 35 appear the directory of the questions with the relative corrected answers, therefore as it turns out from the biography of Bertagnini published on the Dictionary of the scientists and the technicians (Zanichelli). In order to verify its powers, I make but to believe to the medium that Cesar Bertagnini was mine prozio that he had lived with my family until the moment of its dead women, happened in 1980. Established the contact with David, the medium asks to search Cesar Bertagnini. It comes answered that it will want to us a little time: the time of finding of a spirit from part of David depends on how much is far its dead women. In order to trick the wait, David is declared available to answer to the questions that we would want porgli. Talk with the angel guides Taken I little unprovided (had prepared the questions for Bertagnini, for David) I do not have to improvise some question. Before that he comes to me in mind he is following: “Which is the date of birth of my father” The medium answers asserting that it had been forgotten about dirci that the spirits not can supply neither precise dates neither places because in the afterlife space and time they do not exist: these two concepts are only human (goodness knows because then David has asked time in order to search the spirit of Bertagnini). I yield the word to Vergoli which asks: “As it will be for me the day tomorrow” The medium… pardon, David, answer that particular one will be a day much because will rethink to what it is happened this evening and its skepticism will come strongly cracked. Step therefore to my second question. Since previously the medium had asserted of to have succeeded in giving answers on scientific arguments, also not knowing null she of science, asks: “David, you would know to write the equations to me of Maxwell of electromagnetism” David answers me that you would know to write them to me to the infinite goodness knows (because inasmuch as they are only four) but that, having to use like through the medium, the limited mental abilities to this last one glielo prevent. Making to observe them that David is not much pretty one in its it confronts, the medium answers to me that the spirits do not have hairs on the language and what they have to say say. To this Vergoli point it places an other question: “How many sisters I have” David, without hesitation, answers: “One”. Vergoli objects saying of having two siblings and no sister. David insists: “It has a sister, of is sure”. Of forehead to the reiterato one diniego of Vergoli, “David” is justified saying that spirits of never born persons can also exist. Insomma, with a sure embarrassment and confidentiality, alludes to the possibility that features of one sister never been born because of an abortion. Vergoli insists in its dissent, but the medium incaponisce. Inasmuch as the thing is not verifiable at the moment, I propose to make an other question at once easy verifiable. I ask David: “That what I have in the skillful pocket of the slacks? (beyond to the normal handkerchief, I had a inalatore of a broncodilatatore drug)”. You had not never asked it. David indispettisce: “The spirits do not answer to foolish questions therefore, are not at all wizards from large shed!” Excusing to me with the spirit for my lightness, step to a question more consona: “In this moment my mother is happy? (My mother, poor woman, is passed away in 1985)”. David answers asserting that my mother is not completely happy because of sure problems. To my demand for greater details on the type of problems, it comes said that draft to me of health problems. Not serious problems, but to take seriously in consideration. The successive question that I place is following: “I have always suffered for the fact to be only son. This my condition is accidental or is fruit of some divine design? (in reality I have a brother)”. David answers that I must ask it my mother: “not there is no design. Human we have the free will and are masters of our choices”. This point I ask news for the search of Bertagnini, but he comes to me said that it is necessary to wait for little still.

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    • #3
      Talk with the “uncle” Of forehead to one my ulterior demand on Bertagnini, finally comes to me answered that it is arriving. David communicates that Bertagnini wants to know my name. The thing me seems superfluous, but I am to the game and I answer. Recognizing to me,… my uncle exclaims: “They are happy for seeing grandson to you! The ether is full of waves and I can illuminate to you”. The medium suggests to me to ask Bertagnini as it is and where it finds goodness knows (because it must be the medium to suggest the questions that I must make).

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      • #4
        However I am to the game. Bertagnini answers: “I am very well and I find myself in a place where the light is much fort”. Without to leave me the time to place other questions, Bertagnini chases: “When six christened state I was. You cannot remember, but I yes. It was a day of great festivity and all we were content. Memory also of when you have had a bicycle in gift (I defy anyone to find a child that bicycle has not never received in gift one)”. At this point lanciatissimo, Bertagnini continues: “Memory that once you made the whims in front of a plate of pastasciutta”. To this point I kindly point out to the medium and its spirits who since small I have always had one true passion for the paste. In order to recover the medium, ehm… Bertagnini says: “You had pasticciato the paste and you had thrown to us within of the schifezze: for this you did not want to eat it”. At this point unstoppable the medium continues saying that there were contrasts between my mother and the uncle Cesar. To this point I try to take in hand it situation in order to succeed to place to Bertagnini at least some questions between that I had prepared myself. I succeed to place the question number 3: “The dead women painful what for you has been one” Bertagnini answers that it did not want to die and that died of infarct (as turns out from the Bertagnini card died of tisi). I place the question number 5: “Memories as they called to me from small in family and as same you it calls to me to you” Immediately, the medium answers that beyond to the dates and the places, the spirits do not supply not even the nicknames. I take action: it is not never ended to learn! I place the question then number 7: “Memories that I had difficulty with organic chemistry and you help me you?

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        • #5
          I never did not remember the formula of cinnamico acid and you always suggested to me. You would know to me to rewrite” Bertagnini answers: “You know the formula very well, because you ask it me” I object saying that in this moment not me the memory and that it would appeal to to feel to me to me to suggest once again it from he. To this point the medium does not find better than to answer on purpose with the same reasoning advanced of the question on the equations of Maxwell. After that Bertagnini has refused, it is unknown well because, to answer to the question number 9 and it has answered a lot vaguely to number 8, step to the question number 13: “Once you went to fish to Sestri Levant with your friend Paul Ruffini. Memories something of that day” Bertagnini answers that Paul Ruffini was for he like a brother and that perhaps, in that occasion, had had problems of health (like turns out from the Bertagnini card cannot have before known Paul Ruffini, dead that it was born). To this point the medium newly tries to manage she the speech going to free wheel and, trying to invert the roles, it turns she them questions to me. As an example it asks if… my uncle went in boat (clearly reference to my question on the day of peach), asks if… to my uncle he appealed to the food, etc and when we ask the medium because he directly does not turn the questions to the spirit, explains to us that also it wants to verify the reliability of sure answers.

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          • #6
            Epilogue Having at this point collected enough elements on the reliability of the “powers” of the medium and, sincerely little bored of its sproloqui, I try to finish the pantomima. Educatamente, I address to the medium saying them that we could also put aim to the sitting. I decide also to discover the papers. I point out all the incongruenze that are emerged, revealing the true identity of Cesar Bertagnini. The medium reacts without not to try to hide the own one ira. He asserts that the spirits cannot themselves be tricked and that we were in malafede. I point out that we have not taken in turn nobody. Cesar Bertagnini is one existed and really passed away person. Therefore, if it truly had put itself in contact with he, before what who the spirit would have had to say is not to have never had no grandson of Fused Silvano name. I would be remained much satisfied of one similar answer. In order not to act cruelly in excessive way, I grant to the medium the benefit of the good faith (on which but I would not swear, but all adding is one ininfluente what). I try to make to understand them that perhaps same it is victim of a autoinganno and that the experience this evening would have to make to understand them that in reality it does not possess some medianico power. Not at all convinced, the medium tries to defend itself listing the numerous successes that instead it has succeeded to achieve in many other occasions. If we had made questions on our real relatives deceaseds, the answers would have satisfied us. I point out that its David angel is not neanche successful to knowing that my mother is dead and that she has quite attributed health problems to them. It explains to us that the spirits, feeling themselves taken in turn, have tricked we and she with false answers. We become account that is useless to continue the argument, a lot is clearly that the mrs. will not never accept our objections and will remain on its positions. We dismiss ourselves from the medium and it much coldly greets to us. You go up yourself in car we cannot make less than to give vent the repressed risate ones long. But, thinking next to how much people the medium it will succeed in menare for the nose, perhaps, not is much to laugh. Returned to house I learn that, as soon as dismisses to you from she, the medium has telephoned to house mine and, speaking all mental patient with my moglie, has admitted that the encounter had gone badly and above all it has asked for to us not to use the photography that it incautious has let to release. If us it holds therefore as well as to the privacy, there is from asking itself like never has consented to the publication very three photographies on the Mercantile Courier. Moreover, as usual, it is born spontaneous to ask what pushes sure journalists to offer publicity free (and not at all hidden) to sure personages without to cure itself minimally to control the reliability of their affirmations.

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