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  • donsaeid
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2005
    • 28300

    #31
    Originally posted by Inquisitor View Post

    Now you are telling me that Shias are not muslims.
    loool i didnt ment that! sometimes i am not good with formulating sentences! sorry! i didnt ment that! why we splitt? why not stay united? instead of fighting over who was first Khalifa!
    نه غزه نه لبنان جانم فدای ایران


    «در زندگی زخم*هايی هست که مثل خوره روح را آهسته در انزوا می*خورد و می*تراشد.»
    صادق هدايت؛ بوف کور

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    • Inquisitor
      Member
      • Feb 2007
      • 184

      #32
      Originally posted by mike435 View Post
      you sound very sure of this
      would elaborate what test or standards you have used to come to these conclutions

      have you applied the same rules to the qouran
      or can you please show some of the scientific contradictions
      or how it is flawed or how qouran is not
      i leav it up to i recomand you open up a post and either attack the torah or defend the qouran
      Bible says age of earth is 9500 years

      lol you have to give me the verses of Qoran not me, since you think it might have errors.

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      • donsaeid
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2005
        • 28300

        #33
        Originally posted by Inquisitor View Post
        Bible says age of earth is 9500 years

        lol you have to give me the verses of Qoran not me, since you think it might have errors.
        take look at this thread!




        we do also have "Tafsir" in religion forum
        نه غزه نه لبنان جانم فدای ایران


        «در زندگی زخم*هايی هست که مثل خوره روح را آهسته در انزوا می*خورد و می*تراشد.»
        صادق هدايت؛ بوف کور

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        • Inquisitor
          Member
          • Feb 2007
          • 184

          #34
          why not stay united?
          Read my previous posts, I always said "United under the banner of Islam". Also read that "Red Shia Crescent rising" in this thread.

          Look how they treat Shia minorities in Sunni dominant countries.

          Shia is a extreminized way of islam! why not everybody stay muslim?
          If a Shia muslim tells me "Sunni is a extreminized way of islam! why not everybody stay muslim?"

          I will tell him, you are not Shia of Ali (as), I will pray for you that may Allah (swt) guides you.

          I really didn't expect that from a Sunni brother. Allah (swt) knows the best.

          Originally posted by donsaeid View Post

          Read my posts there.

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          • donsaeid
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2005
            • 28300

            #35
            Inshallah we all are guided to Serat al Mostaghim!

            I have lived in as a sunni minority in Iran! i have been spytted on! i have been hit! i have been laughed at! Because i was Sunni!

            have you lived as a Shia minority?

            My father lost his job as a Mayor of a city in Iran because he was Sunni!

            They have asked me if i had tale! because all sunnis has that!

            im not joking!

            So discriminating i have felt on my body! have you? so dont play victim because i said something wrong which i didnt ment! and said sorry for!
            نه غزه نه لبنان جانم فدای ایران


            «در زندگی زخم*هايی هست که مثل خوره روح را آهسته در انزوا می*خورد و می*تراشد.»
            صادق هدايت؛ بوف کور

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            • Inquisitor
              Member
              • Feb 2007
              • 184

              #36
              Originally posted by donsaeid View Post
              Inshallah we all are guided to Serat al Mostaghim!

              I have lived in as a sunni minority in Iran! i have been spytted on! i have been hit! i have been laughed at! Because i was Sunni!

              have you lived as a Shia minority?

              My father lost his job as a Mayor of a city in Iran because he was Sunni!

              They have asked me if i had tale! because all sunnis has that!

              im not joking!

              So discriminating i have felt on my body! have you? so dont play victim because i said something wrong which i didnt ment! and said sorry for!

              I do not mind if you call me Kafar or Rafidha. You cannot judge the whole system with few indivisuals. Taliban (they claim to be Sunni) have commited genocide in Bamiyan, so on and many more ... , but I never called them Sunni Muslims.

              You cannot say all those Americans act like those morons at Abughorayb.

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              • donsaeid
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2005
                • 28300

                #37
                Stop Victimizing loool you behave like a jew! A 24/7 Victim!

                your private believes are holy for you and i respect that! and nothing more! im not judge of you!
                نه غزه نه لبنان جانم فدای ایران


                «در زندگی زخم*هايی هست که مثل خوره روح را آهسته در انزوا می*خورد و می*تراشد.»
                صادق هدايت؛ بوف کور

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                • Inquisitor
                  Member
                  • Feb 2007
                  • 184

                  #38
                  Originally posted by donsaeid View Post
                  Stop Victimizing loool you behave like a jew! A 24/7 Victim!

                  your private believes are holy for you and i respect that! and nothing more! im not judge of you!
                  Allah (swt) knows the best.

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                  • mike435
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2006
                    • 2104

                    #39
                    Originally posted by Inquisitor View Post
                    Bible says age of earth is 9500 years

                    lol you have to give me the verses of Qoran not me, since you think it might have errors.
                    we are talking about the torah aka old testemant
                    it acctualy claims a 5700 somthing i donto know exact but a litle bit over 5000 years old


                    G-d determines who walks into your life....It is up to you to decide who you let walk away, who you let stay, and who you refuse to let go.


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                    • Inquisitor
                      Member
                      • Feb 2007
                      • 184

                      #40
                      Originally posted by mike435 View Post
                      we are talking about the torah aka old testemant
                      it acctualy claims a 5700 somthing i donto know exact but a litle bit over 5000 years old
                      9500 is the claim of Christian bible. As you said 5700 or 5000 is still absurd. Scientists reject such a claim.

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                      • mike435
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2006
                        • 2104

                        #41
                        Originally posted by Inquisitor View Post
                        9500 is the claim of Christian bible. As you said 5700 or 5000 is still absurd. Scientists reject such a claim.
                        since is scince

                        relligon is relligon
                        i do belive in the scince
                        while i believe in the religion

                        so you are telling me islam the correct relligion that is never obsured says's the world is 13 and 14 billio years old

                        and say if it does say that it still does not mean islam is perfect infact it could mean that it is inperfect because scince is allways changing anywyas.

                        i will try to fined a torah explanation of what 57somthing means
                        Last edited by mike435; 03-23-2007, 03:32 PM.


                        G-d determines who walks into your life....It is up to you to decide who you let walk away, who you let stay, and who you refuse to let go.


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                        • mike435
                          Senior Member
                          • Aug 2006
                          • 2104

                          #42
                          http://www.chabad.org/library/article.asp?AID=2901
                          this is very long i didnt even get to finish it myself i ll fined somthing shorter and post while you do the same of islam.


                          G-d determines who walks into your life....It is up to you to decide who you let walk away, who you let stay, and who you refuse to let go.


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                          • mike435
                            Senior Member
                            • Aug 2006
                            • 2104

                            #43
                            How does Judaism's claim that the world is over 5,700 years old coincide with science?
                            by Mrs. Sarah Levi
                            Torah and science can never contradict each other, because two truths cannot be contradictory. When we find an apparent contradiction between the two, it is generally due to a misunderstanding regarding what one is saying.Science cannot really prove the age of the universe. All that scientists can do is speculate about the age of the universe by extrapolating from observed phenomena. No scientist alive today can say that he or she has first-hand information regarding the beginning of the universe.
                            The Torah tells us how old the universe is.
                            Science tells us how old the universe seems to be.
                            The scientist that does not believe in G-d has no reason to assume that the age of the world is different than what it appears to be
                            To give a simple example: how old was Adam when he was first created? Was he a baby? Young man? Old man?Our sages tell us that he had the body and maturity of a 20-year-old man. Now, let us imagine Adam going for a medical exam a day after he was created. The receptionist asks for his age and he answers: “one day”. “You must be kidding me,” she would reply. “You seem to be at least 20 years old!”
                            They are both right. Adam is saying how old he really is, while the receptionist is estimating his age based on “scientific proof.”
                            The scientist that does not believe in G-d has no reason to assume that the age of the world is different than what it appears to be. The one who believes in G-d, however, can perfectly accept the fact that the world was created in a mature state and therefore does not contradict the fact that it is really younger than it seems to be.




                            check out the site because people have posted rebutales


                            G-d determines who walks into your life....It is up to you to decide who you let walk away, who you let stay, and who you refuse to let go.


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                            • Inquisitor
                              Member
                              • Feb 2007
                              • 184

                              #44
                              Originally posted by mike435 View Post
                              since is scince

                              relligon is relligon
                              i do belive in the scince
                              while i believe in the religion

                              so you are telling me islam the correct relligion that is never obsured says's the world is 13 and 14 billio years old

                              and say if it does say that it still does not mean islam is perfect infact it could mean that it is inperfect because scince is allways changing anywyas.

                              i will try to fined a torah explanation of what 57somthing means

                              Quran doesnt tell us how to make skyscraper but it tells us to improve in science.

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                              • mike435
                                Senior Member
                                • Aug 2006
                                • 2104

                                #45
                                look i read one book by this rabbi who was basically saying
                                all truth are truths and i belive that all truths are truth
                                look and g-d is comlation of those truths

                                have you see those posters were it is one big immage that is made up of thousands of other immagaes

                                you cant say those other small immages dont excist becuase the big one excist.

                                according to kabalah g-d is everything and everywere

                                name of the book is seeing g-d popular book if intrested


                                G-d determines who walks into your life....It is up to you to decide who you let walk away, who you let stay, and who you refuse to let go.


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