Eye On Israel

[Rasputin]

حزب الله اين جنگ را شروع کرده است نه ما. ما برای حفظ آبرو بايد حزب الله را شکست دهيم. اگر همينجا جنگ را متوقف کنيم دنيای عرب فکر می کند که ما ضعيف هستيم.

آمريکايی ها ما را می فهمند و فکر می کنم دنيا با شکست حزب الله، مکان امن تری برای زندگی است



من با طرح 'اهود اولمرت' برای فرستادن نيروهای بيشتر موافق هستم. حزب الله سالها است که به سمت اسرائيل موشک می زند، ديگر وقت آن است که جلوی اين عمل آنها ايستاد.

ما بايد به دنيای عرب نشان دهيم که اسرائيلی ها ضعيف نيستند و می توانند از خودشان دفاع کنند.



شروع اين جنگ بدون نيروی های زمينی کافی اشتباه بود. اگر حاضر نباشيد که بهای چيزی را اکنون بپردازيد بعدا مجبور خواهيد شد بهای بيشتری را برای آن بپردازيد. ما بايد نيروهای بيشتر اعزام کنيم.

اگر ما از اول اين کار را کرده بوديم، می توانستيم حزب الله را از جنوب وادار به عقب نشينی کنيم و از تعداد موشک های زده شده بکاهيم.


لبنانی ها برای من اهميتی ندارند، همانطور که ما برای آنها اهميت نداريم.




اگر آنها موشک به سمت ما نمی فرستادند بين هر دو طرف صلح پابرجا بود. من جنگ را نفی می کنم ولی اين حق ما است که از خودمان دفاع کنيم.



آنها تروريست هستند، و ما بايد با تروريست ها بجنگيم، اين جنگ هم تا پيروزی ما بايد ادامه داشته باشد.

من فکر می کنم بسياری از مردم لبنان هم از جمله مسيحيان و دروزی ها، خواهان صلح هستند و از اينکه ما با حزب الله می جنگيم خوشحالند.

[Rasputin]

Eye On Israel (Israel tries to cut off Tehran from world markets)

[Rasputin]

This is in response to a very nice and well-written article. The article doesn't lie. But it is too pessimistic about Muslims, compared to Jews, without taking into account all the historical facts that have contributed to the present day situation. I agree that Jews have strong traditions that have helped them throughout history. They have survived as a people while others have been assimilated, converted, absorbed or annihilated by other peoples. The reasons for this invoked in the article are accurate.

But all this has little to do with the Muslims. If we look back hundreds of years ago we can see the time when Muslims were masters of the world, not Christians. Times have changed ever since and Muslims due to their inability to adapt have lagged behind. The reason that Jews have so many more Nobel recipients than Muslims is not necessarily because of their relative superior abilities to the Muslims. The comparison is a bit unfair. Why? Because we shall not compare the Jews to the Muslims. We shall compare Jews to Christians. These successful Jews are not the Jews who used to live in Muslim countries. They are the Jews who were, and are, from Christian countries. One of the main reasons Jews have become so successful is because they have been subject to so many hardships for so long in Europe.

Also children, with relatively good intelligence and some opportunities for good education, who are subject to hardship, have much greater chances of making it big compared to other children who live in luxury. Jews have benefited immensely from Christian cultural and scientific progress being among them just from the beginning of the Renaissance. This has not been the case for Muslims. So, we shall compare the Jews to Christians (not Muslims), especially in Europe (because they have had quite similar circumstances, though Jews have been subject to more hardship making them better survivors, hence a bit more successful). Jewish success has been largely because of Christendom, while Muslims have failed compared to the Christians. Jewish minorities in Muslim lands have also failed along with the Muslims.

This article also links Israel to the subject matter by referring to Hezbollah. Israel is a whole different story and if I am not mistaking Hezbollah just won a war against Israel. That is called a failure, not a success. Israel wanted to destroy Hezbollah, which it didn't. Hezbollah wanted to stay alive, to survive, which it did. So, the result is a clear victory for Hezbollah. This is no guide for the future though.

Let's not link all the Jews to Israel and its colonial and aggressive actions. Israel is not, and will never be, a success story unless it becomes a real democratic country that respects all religions. As long as Israel is the "Jewish" state I doubt it will be much better off than another well-known religious state, "Shia" Iran.

[mike435]

Jews have become so successful because they have been subject to so many hardships for so long in Europe.

Look this statement even though true makes it sound as if Jews should be glad that they faced hardships no one likes to face hardships.

Also children, with relatively good intelligence and some opportunities for good education, who are subject to hardship,Jewish minorities in Muslim lands have also failed along with the Muslims.Israel and its colonial and aggressive actions

colonial is when one profits from the land and the people they conquer. As history has shown these lands that Israel secured in defensive wars have always been used for a bargaining chip, example Sinai and Gaza.

Look at the end of the day the article I think is addressed to the Arabs and not Muslims, and most important thing is that it is not genetics as an individual you can be smarter or dumber bit in a group genetics are the same and after that it is the culture that shaped the population and develops the characteristics of the people. Genetics can create an inviting environment for some traits vs others but people humans are all equal. It is racist to believe its is the nations pool of genes that made the nation what it is.

[Timsar]

who says jews have not killed, after Jesus(SA) before Mohammad (SA), the jews started the first holocoust, on chritians, in yemen, so plz do not post ariticales that do not have any backing.
and then again even though koroush saved them from babylon they came and lived in iran, but oh no, the had to go against the khashyar shah, instead the shah gave them the right to protect themselves, and they killed from what some historians say up to 75000 persian and madians.

and to do not know, arabs and jews are related.
prophet abraham had to sons,
Esmail and Es-Haagh
From the first come the arabs, and from the second comes the israelites, or israelis.

[donsaeid]

thanx dear timsar. very interesting.


Education gives you power. how? you can make more money, build weapons, and more food for your people. and az khodeshon va zendegishon razi bashan.

But when someone gains power, that person or group of people dont give it valuntery.

[mike435]

education gives you humanity. The ability not to be blind.
also education more than anything benefits the world.



just imagine it the other way if you had given all this wepon to the other side imagin what they would do with it, it would be much worse
in africa very litle education and look whats going on killing after killing after killing.
and the arabs and the palestinians withthe little wepon they have they are ruthesly killing indiscriminatly.

and the radicals of iran the same if they get the bomb.

back to the artical
look at how successful persian muslims are, in dubai, europe and the states to.
Infact i think persians compared to the rest of the immigirant population in america have been most succesful. In only 20 some odd years persian in america are achiving the same things as other groups.

[donsaeid]

you are really arogant to say that education gives you humanity. so all analfabet people are animals?

[mike435]

no what i should say is

it enhanses or develops humanity

the reason i draw this conclusion is because i see how much hate there is in the arab world just pure hate not everyone ofcourse there are exceptions but i think if there was some real education the situation would be much better.

acctualy there are people who have no education are some of the most human human beings.

so what we should really say is that with education if you were misfortinute to be broght up in a caulture that is very easly seceptible to hate you would endup changing your mined.

[Rasputin]

Sirs..

I think you didn't get my points in my replies !

I wanted to show you the wrong view of moslem ppl about Jew ppl !

---

1-Savad dashtan,rabti beh mazhab nadareh (Hich chizi rabti beh mazhab nadareh !) ,Dashtan-e savad in ejazeh ro beh hameh mideh keh ''shenakht'' peida koneh nesbat beh masaele zendegi !

2-Ma ha (Iranian Ppl ) hich vaght moshkeli ba jew ppl nadashtim ! Hich vaght yahudiha kari beh ma nakardan keh bekhahim unha ro mahkoum konim ! hich vaght ba ma jang nakardan va az ma kasi ro nakoshtan ( agar kasi moafegh nist,ba dalil va madrak va source inja neshun bedeh keh man eshtebah mikonam !) . Yahudi ha hich vaght beh zur, dineshun ro beh maha keh ghablan sahebe din (Zartosht) boudim,nakardan !

---

Pls.. Be fair ! Get some info about history culture and literature ! don't reply about something if you don't have reason! Don't be radical and naive.

God Bless You .

[Timsar]

what r u ppl talking about, how did albert einstien help the japs. idiot, he had no one better to give his idea to??? wow

Mike435

education has nothing to do with killing, if u say it that way, then the zionist have no education what so ever, killing lil kids who throw rocks. r u kiding me, with this un-intelligent stuff u write.

if the arabs seem to be hatefull, or what ever, is because of persian and then every one else, us iranians have been putting them down forever, they r just ppl like every one else, they have brains, it has nothing to do with race neither.

so do not say dump things. i can tell u just write stuff with out analyzing it. so think before u write.

[mike435]

what r u ppl talking about, how did albert einstien help the japs. idiot, he had no one better to give his idea to??? wow

Mike435

education has nothing to do with killing, if u say it that way, then the zionist have no education what so ever, killing lil kids who throw rocks. r u kiding me, with this un-intelligent stuff u write.

if the arabs seem to be hatefull, or what ever, is because of persian and then every one else, us iranians have been putting them down forever, they r just ppl like every one else, they have brains, it has nothing to do with race neither.

so do not say dump things. i can tell u just write stuff with out analyzing it. so think before u write.

[Timsar]

hahahah ur freakin funny, when a missile goes astray, a Israeli never goes astray unless they want it to, man u should not even make a comment. zip it

[donsaeid]

hahahah ur freakin funny, when a missile goes astray, a Israeli never goes astray unless they want it to, man u should not even make a comment. zip it

all israeli missiles are precision guided missiles and rackets

[mike435]

all israeli missiles are precision guided missiles and rackets

first not all i dont think the shells that kid that family were laser guided

also even if all missles were laser guided not all would be 100% accurate

also if it is guided it is more of a reason for the soldire to get punished

all i was trying to say is that look unlike hamas, and the rest of the orginization the israelis take loss of life on both sides very seriously dispite what you see.

i have been with israeli soldirs ok i walked with theme sat with theme ate with theme.