Originally posted by csite
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Most iranian girls are liars, they all claim their virgins 
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reali?? I'd rather people know i wasnt a virgin that was one. lol.Proud to be Persian. -
In donyaei kleh shoma unja ''lie'' nemibini kojast? beh Man neshan bedid,man ham dar anja zendegi konam !Originally posted by Lime_Margarita View Post
Omid varam keh Canada nabasheh... Hahahaha .
iran
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They are all liars and 2 faces
that's how Persians are.
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ye zare ghati konandas, meedunam. ekhtelaf eenja daleel dare vali...Originally posted by Redwine
It too think its partly a problem with the definition of lying, its a trap for stereotyping Iranis. Ofcourse Iranis "lie" in some sense, but in normal, every day life (excluding places like bazar... needless to say, all advertising in the world is the legal justification of lying), most are not "liars". I personally find Iranians (excluding in places like the bazar), generally care about honesty.Originally posted by maryam_shirazi_9 View Post
And words can not be criteria. Something like 80% of human behavior is non-verbal. A person can be honest in their words, but very deceptive behaviorally. I think Iranis lie verbally a lot because of social cultural pressures, but they do not lie behaviorally, while other cultures do lie behaviorally more.Take him and cut him out in little stars,
and he will make the face of heaven so fine,
that all the world will be in love with night,
and pay no worship to the garish sun
- Shakespeare
"In all intellectual debates, both sides tend to be correct in what they affirm, and wrong in what they deny." - JS MillComment
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Cheh ekhtelafi dareh ? Shoma bayad beshini pay-e harf ha va sohbat ha va dard-e del-e kheili az irani ha keh dar in 15-20 sal-e gozashteh,cheghadar az ''lies'' ham vatan haye irani-e khodeshan zarbeh khordan va beh cheh jahay-e badi keshandeh shodan.Originally posted by joubin View Post
Man etefaghan az kasani hastam keh hamisheh tarafdari mikonam az ham vatan hay-e khodam jeloy-e khareji ha,vali alan digeh bein-e khodemun hastim va mitunim bahs konim ta bebinim eshkal-e ghazieh az kojast ! rou darvaisi keh nadarim.Az ghadim ham goftan,yek suzan hamisheh beh khodet bezan va ba'adan yek javaldouz beh digaran.
Hadaf ineh keh beh donbal-e rah-e hal bashim,vagarnah hamisheh rahat hast moshkel va matrah kardan va ba'adan faramoush kardan-e moshkel !
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meetuni yek mesal az doroughe "irani-ha" bedi? goftam, raftare adamo ham bayad hesab kard, na faghat loghat. ye hashtad dar sade adam loghati neest...Originally posted by RedWine View Post
harfeto meefahmam, vali chera harfaye farhangiye hasaso bazi mogheha yek zare dagheeghtar erae nadeem? oon ke "rahe hale" behtariye...Last edited by zubin; 07-10-2007, 01:46 PM.Take him and cut him out in little stars,
and he will make the face of heaven so fine,
that all the world will be in love with night,
and pay no worship to the garish sun
- Shakespeare
"In all intellectual debates, both sides tend to be correct in what they affirm, and wrong in what they deny." - JS MillComment
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Ageh mikhai barat dastan az dorough haye irani ha ta'arif konam,hala halaha bayad beshinam inja chizi post konam chounkeh man beh khater-e fa'aliat haei keh anjam dadam va midam,in jur chiz ha ya beh gusham mireseh va ya beh surat-e vaghei mibinam !Originally posted by joubin View Post
In jaryan ro man ziad ''farhangi'' nemibinam,in chiz ha bishtar beh khater-e tarbiat-e eshtebah va ya beh khater-e masaeli hast keh dar zendegi pish miad !
Beh khosus dar Europe ! iranihaei keh dar Europe hastan az lahaz-e masael-e ejtemaei kheili bishtar moshkel daran ta unhaei keh dar U.S.A ya Canada hastan !
Ellatesh ham moshakhs hast,dar Europe ghavanin juri hast keh hich shabahati beh keshvar hayeh digeh nadareh ! beh khosus beh khater-e E.U !!! E.U har rouz dareh az 10 sal-e gozashteh ghavanini ro mizareh keh zendegi ro baray-e har khareji sakht tar mikoneh,hala cheh berese beh irani ha !
Touy-e in vasat,irani ha beh khater-e poul va ya magham,shodeh keh ham vatan-e khodeshoun ro forukhtan va beh vasileh dorough va kalak ,kheili karha ro anjam dadan va midan !
Dar in hamin zamineh hast keh iraniha dar Europe (beh khosus U.K,France,Germany) kamtar ba ham kar mikonan va yeki ,yeki digar ro motahham beh karhay-e khalaf mikonan.
Man manzuram injast,keh bayad did keh chera hala ''dorough'' !!! eshkal injast va ta alan beh jaei bar nakhordam keh betuneh kamelan in jaryan ro baram roshan koneh.
iran
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Motovaje meesham, hagh bahate. Se ta az javabasho gofti. Reghabate eghtesadi, tafavote farhangi, va tarbiyate bad (ta hodudi ham dorugh tabeeye).Originally posted by RedWine View Post
Eena sharayet Irani-hast, be een khater "dorughu" beheshun nemeeshe goft. Bad shans shayad.
Va bazam shakhsan ba mahdud kardane taareefe dorugh be loghat mokhalefam. Raftar ham meetune dorugh bashe. Ru ham rafte ehsas meekonam Irani-ha raftari kamtar dorugh meegan...Take him and cut him out in little stars,
and he will make the face of heaven so fine,
that all the world will be in love with night,
and pay no worship to the garish sun
- Shakespeare
"In all intellectual debates, both sides tend to be correct in what they affirm, and wrong in what they deny." - JS MillComment
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I'm afraid I have to agree with you. I deal with a few merchants in the bazaar (via phone, chat and email) and I've been bald-faced lied to - mostly more like total exaggerations of the truth and mostly to big-note themselves, but also just plain good old fashioned lies. I understand from a very close friend who also trades there, that this is normal and even acceptable culture in the grand bazaar in Tehran. He's currently teaching me how it all works.Originally posted by csite View Post
As I understand it, not only Iranians trade there, so I'm hoping this is not seen as a racist comment (because I'm not Iranian). It's definitely not intended to be.
I don't exactly know about Iranians being liars in any other arena - only the bazaar.
sooz
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Ramin vo Siamak,inghadr too sar vo kaleye hamdige nazanid sare ye mosht Irani e dorooghgoo
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Arman enghad doroogh nagu
Take him and cut him out in little stars,
and he will make the face of heaven so fine,
that all the world will be in love with night,
and pay no worship to the garish sun
- Shakespeare
"In all intellectual debates, both sides tend to be correct in what they affirm, and wrong in what they deny." - JS MillComment
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Alan ke mibinam faghat man option avalo zadam...vala be nodrat mibinam ke ye irani ye roode rast too shekamesh bashe...Love like you never got hurtwork like you don't need the moneyDance like no one is watching
تا عاقلان راهی برای یکبار خندیدن پیدا کنند دیوانگان هزار بار خندیده اند
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sooz - this isnt directed at u in any wayOriginally posted by sooz View Post
i just wanted to say that you cannot pertain a human act (e.g. lying) to one race only. To be prejudiced means to pre-judge someone/something, which is what is happening here). We are predicting the integrity of a race, which is not a right thing to do.
i find this whole thread offensive, because people are stereotyping iranians (i.e. all iranians who have a stall are liars). thats like saying "all americans commit adultery" and making a poll on it (it occurs in all countries; people commit it, regardless of race).
The sentence about the baazar should be re-phrased to something similar to "people who own a stall in a bazaar are dishonest", because then you are referring to traits of an individual who works in such an environment, and is not being directed towards any race. I have travelled to lots of countries in the middle east such as turkey, israel, UAE, and it happens everywhere.Mary's back, back againComment
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there comes the saviorOriginally posted by maryam_shirazi_9 View Post
I don't think this thread is offensive as u thought. If i would have made such comments maybe it would be. Racist? all of them who made such comments or persian origins... isnt?
I appreciate your love and passion towards your country and ethnicity.
go thru this thread maybe intresting for you
“I want to feel passion, I want to feel pain. I want to weep at the sound of your name. Come make me laugh, come make me cry... just make me feel alive.”
If you wish to be loved, show more of your faults than your virtues. - Edward Bulwer-Lytton
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i call it perian poilitcs
G-d determines who walks into your life....It is up to you to decide who you let walk away, who you let stay, and who you refuse to let go.
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