donyast azizan man, na Irani-ha. hamamum sheneedeem money talks, bs walks bekhatere eenke reghabate bi-ensaf rasme ruzegare, va dar een deed-ga fesad va party bazi "justified" hastan. systeme donya ro bar asbe edalat besazeed baad bar asbe edalat ghezavat koneed.
Iranian Ppl & ''Party Bazi''
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Take him and cut him out in little stars,
and he will make the face of heaven so fine,
that all the world will be in love with night,
and pay no worship to the garish sun
- Shakespeare
"In all intellectual debates, both sides tend to be correct in what they affirm, and wrong in what they deny." - JS Mill
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Beh har hal in yeki az badtarin karhaeist keh beh surat-e ziad dideh misheh bein-e ma iraniha, hatta jahayei keh aslan ehtiaji beh party bazi nist,hamash say mikonim,alaki ba kasi jur beshim keh masalan aval bashim ya hameh az maha hesab bebaran inha az tarbiate bade khunevadegi hast va hamountor keh az ghabl goftam,in chiza akhar va aghebateh khubi nadareh va har kasi keh in karha ro bekoneh beh badtarin vajhi mojazat misheh va azab khahad keshid.
iran
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are kheyli cheeze badeye. be hamin khater bayad systeme donya bedune taarof avaz she. agar alan yek farhang neeku kari kone va kamelan parti bazi ro beerun bendaze un farhang az beyn meere. be hameen khatere ke *heech farhangi* neest ke parti bazi nemeekone. Baraye man aslan sharm avar neest ke farhange man een karo meekone. Baraye man sharm avare ke adamaye gharb ke een systemo jolo meebaran hanooz nafahmeedan che systeme (babakhsheed) ashghal ro be donya zur kardan.
Ettefaghan farhange asl-eh Irani ro az yek donyaye fased joda koni farhange kheyli shirin, peeshrafte va ba ensanyate. Een bahs complicated ast va nemeeshe tu do khat goft.
Enshala ba hame badiyash alaan donya dare khodesho negah meekone va meetune badiyasho mottovaje beshe. Hame adama meedunan badi cheeye va deege nemeetunan azash farar konan chon mesle ayne jolo rooshune deege.Take him and cut him out in little stars,
and he will make the face of heaven so fine,
that all the world will be in love with night,
and pay no worship to the garish sun
- Shakespeare
"In all intellectual debates, both sides tend to be correct in what they affirm, and wrong in what they deny." - JS Mill
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Ba shoma moafegham,montaha moteasefaneh chizi keh bayad ezafeh konam ineh keh ghodrat, daste adamhaei hast keh az hichi khabar nadaran va az chizi keh bayad ettla'a bashan chizi nemidunan, tamameh moshkelateh ma iraniha, sareh hamineh ! va hamountor keh ghablan goftam,in jaryan beh khodeshun bar migardeh,manzuram afradist keh su-e estefadeh az ghodrat mikonan va hagh-e mardom ro paymal mikonan.Originally posted by joubin View Postare kheyli cheeze badeye. be hamin khater bayad systeme donya bedune taarof avaz she. agar alan yek farhang neeku kari kone va kamelan parti bazi ro beerun bendaze un farhang az beyn meere. be hameen khatere ke *heech farhangi* neest ke parti bazi nemeekone. Baraye man aslan sharm avar neest ke farhange man een karo meekone. Baraye man sharm avare ke adamaye gharb ke een systemo jolo meebaran hanooz nafahmeedan che systeme (babakhsheed) ashghal ro be donya zur kardan.
Ettefaghan farhange asl-eh Irani ro az yek donyaye fased joda koni farhange kheyli shirin, peeshrafte va ba ensanyate. Een bahs complicated ast va nemeeshe tu do khat goft.
Enshala ba hame badiyash alaan donya dare khodesho negah meekone va meetune badiyasho mottovaje beshe. Hame adama meedunan badi cheeye va deege nemeetunan azash farar konan chon mesle ayne jolo rooshune deege.
iran
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are vaghean har bi-ensafe be nafse adam latme meezane va vaghean kayfeyate zendegiye un shakhs ro paeen meeyare. har chi pool daro az een harfa bashe vaya kasi bi-ensafiyesho nabeene.
Een harfe kheyli mohemme, jaleb va nagofteiye va omidvaram morede bahs va fekre beeshtari beshe, chon agar shoma rast meegi pas yeki ke meetune bayne party bazi va neeki entekhab bokone, hatta agar ba esse margesh meeshe, behtare az nazare khodesh ke neeki kone. Faghat een nazare khodesho nemeedune az bas ke donya bar aksesho yad meede, va bayad yeki eeno behesh goft va tamame donya eentori khub meeshe.
Masalan agar yek ghanun beeyad ke companiye McDonald ro bebande meetune bar asbe een bashe ke oon adam-ha ke deege, dar vaghe, nemeekhan sare mardomo kola bezaran, pas beran "life" payda konan va yek kare deegei bokonan. Eeno meeshe shayad dar baraye har adame fasedi goft ke donya enshala behtar beshe. Vali.... kheyli mohemmi, baraye eenke een harfa kari bokone, ke che adamayi ro mahdud meekoneem va sarzanesh meekoneem. Benazare bande gozashtane taghseere Irani-ha eshtebas, az bas ke systemi dar donya zur shode (va be Iran zur shode) be tavassote ghodratmand-haye eghtesadiye donya bar asbe fesado party. Ma ham jozvi az een system hasteem va farhange jahani hasteem va nemeeshe taghseeremun gozasht, va bayad be een reesheye jahani khayli beeshtar taghseero bezareem. Vali khob een nazare mane....Take him and cut him out in little stars,
and he will make the face of heaven so fine,
that all the world will be in love with night,
and pay no worship to the garish sun
- Shakespeare
"In all intellectual debates, both sides tend to be correct in what they affirm, and wrong in what they deny." - JS Mill
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Joubin jan..
Yek nokteh ..
Agar pedar va madar hayeh irani, az bachehgi beh bacheh hashun began va dorost neshun bedan rah-e dorost ro,hich vaght in masael pish nemiad.
Moteasefaneh,tarbiate khanevadegi dar Iran beh haddi kharabe (dar kharej badtar) keh aslan iraniha ghabeleh moghayeseh ba ghadim nistan.
Alan hameh mikhan pouldar beshan bedoune zahmat keshidan va beh jaei beresan bedune inkeh hadafi dashteh bashan va talashi anjam bedan !
Part bazi hamisheh boudeh dar Iran va in neshan dahandeyeh zaeif boudane mardome iran hast dar rabeteh ba zendegi-e vaghei !
iran
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nazare ma do nafar ba tavajjo be bahsi ke ovordam ba ham fargh daran. man aslan Irani-ha ro zaeef nemeebeenam, va har chi khahane poolano az een harfa (hatta az pedar madarashun yad gerefte bashan), zyad jedi nemeegeeram chon donyast ke eeno be una zur karde. barayeh survival majburan donbale pool beran, va hameye farhang-ha be een khater dast be party meezadan va meezaran. Be een khater donyas ke bayad avaz she. Donya khodesh mesle yek pedaro madar meemune ke bachehasho dare bad bozorg meekone.
Masalan. Sorkh poost-ha aslan pool nadashtan va aslan nemeedustan party cheye. Baad az amadane Europaii-ha, va az bayn raftane farhangeshun, dast be reghabat gozashtan va partyo fesad tu farhangeshun alan deede meeshe be hamoon shekle Europaii.
Albate az ye nazar khube ke ma Irani-ha Irani-haye deege ro enghadr sarzanesh meekoneem va khodemuno badtar az baghye meeduneem ba eenke een hatman vagheyat nadare. Faghat deege bayad eshkalamuno tu een donya bezareem va mogheyato bebeeneem, ke fekr konam shoma movafegh bashi.
Akhareen noktei ke alan daram eene ke shayad baazi az Irani-haye javan ham az ye nazaraii aghel tar az ghadeem bashan, ba eenke kheyleshun meeran donbale pool. Vali are, lazem be kar va farhang hast va pedar madariye behtar ke ma ro khub aghel kone. Faghat ki goosh meede, kodum madar pedar, vaghti donya bar asbe poole hamash? Ras meegi shoma, kheyli bayad tekrar she va hatman manteghi va ensan budan ghavi tar meeshe. Vali be un ghovvati ke meetune neest tu een system. Baad ham bayad movazebe taghseer gozashtan basheem ke bad tar nashe. Az nazare ravanshenasi esbate ke taghseero efrat kardan hamun kari ke taghseeresho gozashteem ro ziyad meekone. Dar een sharayete ke ye halate "reverse psychology" be vojud meeyad.
Dobare, een faghat nazare mane... Nazdeek be heech kasi ke bashun harf zadam een nazararo nadare, vali kheyli-ha movafegh meeshan, khayli-ha 20-ta soale jadid barashun peesh meeyad...Take him and cut him out in little stars,
and he will make the face of heaven so fine,
that all the world will be in love with night,
and pay no worship to the garish sun
- Shakespeare
"In all intellectual debates, both sides tend to be correct in what they affirm, and wrong in what they deny." - JS Mill
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Barayeh hamin hast keh man vote dadam beh bad education, vaghti keh iruniha 20-22 saleshune, dokhtar ya pesar,fekr mikonan ke zendegi rahateh va hamash az baghaleh maman baba khahar baradar doust dokhtar ya doust pesareshun mitunan bekhoran va rahat har kari bekhan anjam bedan,vali intor nist,in adama vaghti keh chand sal begzareh khahand did keh cheghadar az hameh nazar khali hastan,ham aghli va ham az nazarateh digeh,dar akhar khodeshun hastan keh bad bakht mishan va vabasteh beh baghieh mishan !
iran
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benazare man bayad factoraye deege ham ovord... shayad daleelesh eene. vali manzureto fahmeedam.
Last edited by zubin; 12-04-2006, 12:11 PM.Take him and cut him out in little stars,
and he will make the face of heaven so fine,
that all the world will be in love with night,
and pay no worship to the garish sun
- Shakespeare
"In all intellectual debates, both sides tend to be correct in what they affirm, and wrong in what they deny." - JS Mill
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Party Bazi Dar Balatareen Radehaye Ghanun Asasiye Eenglish
Tu HAR keshvare Europaii va democrat party bazi dar balatarren radehaye ghanun asasi deede meeshe; Irani-haye aghab oftadeye badbakht tu ye donyaye fased gharar daran ke meetune aslan Irano ba fesad az bayn bebare.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article...7-2426786.html
Police close in on Blair over donors
David Leppard and Robert Winnett
LABOUR’S chief fundraiser has implicated Tony Blair as the key figure in the cash-for-honours scandal, a well-placed source has revealed.
Lord Levy, a close associate of the prime minister, told Scotland Yard detectives last month that he was acting on the direct orders of Blair when he secretly obtained £14m in loans from businessmen to fund the party.
He has been questioned twice in the past four months after it emerged that four businessmen who lent Labour money were also recommended by Blair for peerages. The honours were blocked by an official watchdog.
Levy’s potentially incriminating testimony could prove crucial to the decision to question Blair — the culmination of a seven-month inquiry. Police hope to interview the prime minister within the next five weeks.
A prosecution source said: “Levy told the police that everything he did was for the top man. It wasn’t for anybody else, just for Blair. That’s why the PM has to be interviewed.”
The Sunday Times, which exposed the scandal, has established that Blair hosted dinners and meetings with those who went on to lend money to Labour. He personally approved the controversial loan scheme.
Matt Carter, the former general secretary of the party, who signed off the loans, is understood to have been questioned by detectives recently.
A friend of Levy said this weekend: “The prime minister knew all these people [who lent money] and it was entirely his decision who became working peers. He is right at the centre of the whole thing.
“Lord Levy was against raising money through loans but did so after being asked to by Blair — amid serious financial problems for Labour. He has nothing to do with honours and could not offer anyone anything — that is up to the prime minister.”
Although no final decision has been made, the Metropolitan police hope to interview Blair before the end of next month to conclude the first stage of its inquiry. The Crown Prosecution Service will then decide what action to take.
Another well-placed source, who has been briefed on the inquiry, said Levy — known as “Lord Cashpoint” within party circles — could yet face criminal charges. It follows initial scepticism among prosecution sources that the investigation would lead to action.
“The police are not ruling it out. It’s partly a question of what level of charge to go for,” the source said.
As the scandal has unfolded, police have arrested three people and interviewed at least 50. Last week Michael Howard, the former Tory leader, became the latest high-profile figure to be questioned, at his home in central London.
Levy, a former music industry executive elevated to the Lords by Blair in 1997, has been questioned over two possible offences. At least three other senior Downing Street aides, including Jonathan Powell, Blair’s chief of staff, have spoken to the police.
During Levy’s interviews he was asked whether he had offered the prospect of a peerage to potential donors in exchange for funding Labour in the run-up to the general election last year.
However, a friend of the peer said: “The idea he was handing out peerages is ridiculous. If honours were on offer to people giving cash to Labour, Lord Levy could fill the Royal Albert Hall twice over.”
Levy was also asked whether he knew of any plans to tell donors to disguise their backing for the party as loans, or whether he solicited loans that were not on commercial terms. This would constitute a criminal offence under electoral laws introduced by Labour in 2001. Levy denies breaking any law.
The peer has privately insisted that Blair was intimately involved in the loans scheme, which would make it difficult for the police to prosecute Levy without bringing charges against the prime minister. He remains ultra-loyal to Blair. The prime minister has indicated he is prepared to take responsibility for the loans scheme.
Lord Oakeshott, a Liberal Democrat peer, said: “The police can hardly conclude their inquiries into the possible sale of Labour peerages without interviewing Blair who is the monopoly supplier.”
This weekend new details emerged revealing Blair’s pivotal role in the affair and his close relationship with the 12 businessmen who lent £14m to the party.
This has led to speculation that the prime minister may have had a direct role in lining up the donors. A Downing Street insider revealed that each had “met and knows the prime minister personally”.
Blair is close to all four donors nominated for peerages: Sir David Garrard, Barry Townsley, Sir Gulam Noon and Chai Patel.
Townsley, a stockbroker, and the Blair family are “good friends”; Cherie Blair is said to have accompanied Townsley to the Chelsea flower show. Blair has praised Garrard, a property developer, and his wife, Maureen, for their “vision” in sponsoring city academies.
He has also met Patel to discuss “health issues” and Noon, a ready-meals tycoon, has visited Downing Street to advise Blair on race relations in the light of the terrorist threat.
The insider claims Andrew Rosenfeld, who lent Labour £1m, had a private dinner with Blair at No 10.
Blair also allegedly met Nigel Morris, who lent £1m, at a party at the home of Sir Ronald Cohen, another donor. Friends of Levy point out that at the time the peer had not met Morris.
Sir Christopher Evans, a biotech tycoon who lent £1m and was one of those arrested, is said to have had “multiple meetings” with Blair at No 10 to discuss “science projects”. Richard Caring, who lent £2m, is also claimed to have held “several meetings” with Blair.
The insider said: “These were not people who were tapped up out of the blue by Lord Levy for loans, they were well known to the prime minister. Only those who were personally approved by Blair were approached.”
Police have obtained internal correspondence from Downing Street. Of particular interest is thought to be a series of e-mails sent within Downing Street discussing those who had lent money and who were to be nominated for peerages. Detectives have also removed Levy’s diary.
Blair has refused to reveal details of any meetings he has held with the businessmen.
Senior sources are annoyed at what they claim is a biased police operation. Everyone arrested has been linked to Labour or the government and Blair is said to be preparing an “outspoken” response following the conclusion of the inquiry.
One source said: “Blair believes the whole thing has been biased. The Tories have been taking loans — and giving peerages to those making loans — for years, yet none of them have been arrested. Why not?”
Levy declined to comment.
Fifty questioned in honours inquiry
Scotland Yard has so far arrested three people and questioned at least 50 in the cash for honours inquiry, writes David Leppard.
Those arrested include Lord Levy, Labour’s chief fundraiser, Sir Christopher Evans, a donor and founder of Merlin Biosciences, and Des Smith, an adviser to the government’s city academies programme.
Those questioned under caution — an indication that they are being treated as potential suspects — are Ruth Turner, Downing Street’s director of government relations and John McTernan, Tony Blair’s director of political operations. Others who have been interviewed include Michael Howard, the former Tory leader, Ian McCartney, the former Labour chairman, and Lord Sainsbury, the science minister who lent £2m.
Chai Patel, Sir Gulam Noon, Barry Townsley and Sir David Garrard, who all made substantial loans, have also been quizzed.
Detectives are investigating possible criminal offences under the 1925 Honours Act. They are also looking for evidence of breaches of the 2000 Political Parties, Elections and Referendums Act, which makes it an offence for political parties to fail to declare donations.Take him and cut him out in little stars,
and he will make the face of heaven so fine,
that all the world will be in love with night,
and pay no worship to the garish sun
- Shakespeare
"In all intellectual debates, both sides tend to be correct in what they affirm, and wrong in what they deny." - JS Mill
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گفتارهایی برای مخاطبان زمانه:
بی آنکه بخواهیم قاعده*ای جهان*روا وضع کنیم، می*توانیم مدعی شویم هرگاه مردمی از خردورزی در پهنه*ی عمومی منع شوند، یعنی نتوانند در مورد اموری که به عموم آنان مربوط می*شود بیندیشند، نظر دهند و برای بهبود آنها دست به تأسیس و تغییر زنند، محتملا در حیطه*ی خردوزری خصوصی نیز چندان دستاوردی نخواهند داشت.
خردورزی خصوصی و عمومی
تفکیک میان خردورزی خصوصی و عمومی به کانت برمی*گردد. پیشتر منظور وی را از این تفکیک با این مثال روشن کردیم: اگر یک اقتصاددان از علم خویش بهره گیرد برای آنکه در بازی بورس برنده شود یا در مقام یک مدیر از سرِ جاه*طلبی وظایف محوله را به خوبی انجام دهد و با زیرکی کار خویش را پیش برد، از عقل خویش استفاده*ی خصوصی کرده است، اما اگر مثلا مقاله*ای بنویسد و به مردم در مورد وضعیت کلی اقتصاد کشور یا گوشه*ای از آن توضیح دهد، و فراتر از آن اگر بر آن شود با طرح انتقاد خود به وضعیت موجود حرکتی را برانگیزد، مثلا حزبی تأسیس کند، تا بلکه با جنبشی مردمی سیاست اقتصادی بهبود یابد، خرد خویش را در پهنه*ی عمومی به کار بسته است.
اختناق پداگوژیک
با نظر به جامعه*ی ایران به سادگی می*توان پی برد چرا و چگونه محدودیت در خردورزی عمومی به سستی در خردوزری خصوصی می*انجامد. به یکی از عاملها اشاره می*کنیم: تعلیم و تربیت در ایران، چه در پهنه*ی خانواده، چه در مدرسه چه در پهنه*ی عمومی اجتماعی تابع وضعیت سیاسی است. اختناق سیاسی و فرهنگی باعث اختناق پداگوژیک می*شود. فرد، مستقل، متکی به نفس، سربلند، جسور، دارای فهم و زبان و منطقی روشن و برخوردار از فانتزی و ویزیون نمی*شود. او حرفش را مستقیم نمی*زند، نظری را که دارد پی نمی*گیرد، خودش را و دیگران را جدی نمی*گیرد، دشنام می*دهد، اما انتقاد نمی*کند، می*آموزد که چیزی را تصرف کند، اما نمی*آموزد که مسئول چیزی باشد، به او این حس القا نمی*شود که برای جهان مهم است که او کیست و چه می*اندیشد. او فقط برای خودش انتخاب می*کند، نه برای یک جامعه، نه برای یک جهان. او آب زیر کاه می*شود. از داستان زمانه این را درمی*یابد که زبان سرخ چگونه سر سبز را بر باد می*دهد. او دورو می*شود. او وقتی موفق می*شود که در مفهوم ایرانی کلمه "زرنگ" باشد. در هیچ کلمه*ای چون "زرنگی" رذایل ملی ما متبلور نشده است.
متناقض*نمایی زرنگی ایرانی
زرنگی تلاش برای بقاست، تلاش برای روی آب ماندن است، تلاش برای بالاکشیدن خود است. زرنگی ایرانی پدیده*ای متناقض*نماست، زیرا تلاش برای پیشبرد کاری یا رسیدن به هدفی با کمترین تلاش است. زرنگ ایرانی بی*عُرضه و ساده*لوح می*نامد کسی را که درستکار باشد، در صف نوبت مانَد، رعایت دیگران را کنَد، زحمت کشد و بر خود چیزی را روا نداند که بر دیگران می*داند و برعکس برخود چیزی را منع نکند، که بر دیگران می*کند.
فرصت*طلبی
اختناق و نکبت استبداد مشوق دورویی و زرنگ*بازی است، بقای استبداد هم به نوبه*ی خود تا حد بسیاری به فرصت*طلبیِ زرنگهای ایرانی برمی*گردد. با زرنگی همه چیز قابل تحمل می*شود. می*شود گلیم خود را از آب کشید، موفق و راضی بود، آنجایی که لازم باشد با زرنگی از وضع موجود اعلام حمایت کرد و در جایی دیگر خود را مخالف نشان داد.
زرنگی نظام و شکاف در نظام زرنگی
رژیم هم زرنگی*های خود را دارد. همه با زرنگی سر یکدیگر کلاه می*گذارند و این وضعیت تا جایی ادامه پیدا می*کند که جا برای همه*ی زرنگها نماند. امکان زرنگ*بازی تمام می*شود. زرنگیِ نظام به پایان خود می*رسد و نظامِ زرنگی شکاف برمی*دارد.
زرنگی به*عنوان فضیلت
نمی*توان در یک نفس هم از فضایل ملت گفت هم از رذایل آن. از این یکی که بگوییم از آن دیگری غافل می*شویم. زرنگی ایرانی بر این قاعده یک استنثنا می*گذارد، زیرا این صفت هم فشرده*ی رذایل است هم فشرده*ی فضایل.
«من این مُرَقّعِ پشمینه بهر آن دارم
که زیرِ خرقه کشم مِی، کسی گمان نبرد»
مِی کشیدن در زیر مرقع پشمینه زرنگی*ای است سخت ستودنی. آفرین بر این "حافظِ" زرنگ ما باد!
این وجه دیگر از متناقض*نمایی زرنگی ایرانی، یعنی این که هم فضیلت است هم رذیلت، شاید در روزگاری برآیندی مثبت داشته است. اما در روزگار ما که فضیلت در روشن*بینی و صراحت و شجاعت مدنی است، به تباهی بیشتر می*انجامد.
ایمان و تکنیک
در جامعه*ی زرنگها استعدادها خشک می*شوند، زیرا هیچ نبوغی به مرتبه*ی زرنگی نمی*رسد. آنان که تلاش می*کنند، سرانجام درمی*یابند، موفقیت نه با زحمت بلکه با زرنگی به دست می*آید. با زرنگی البته نمی*توان هنرمند شد، دانشمند شد، فعال جامعه*ی مدنی شد. با زرنگی نمی*توان کتاب خوب نوشت. دانش و اخلاق و مدنیت با زرنگی به دست نمی*آید. اگر همه زرنگ باشند و نظام هم با زرنگی کار خود را پیش برد، در بهترین حالت فقط مدرنیزاسیون مصرفی پیش خواهد رفت. آنگاه جمهوری اسلامی نماد زرنگی ایرانی برای ترکیب ایمان و تکنیک خواهد شد.
پرسش کانونی در ایران این است: از این باتلاق با کدام زرنگی می*توان خود را بیرون کشید؟
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