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Hi AFshin,
I just bought the advanced CD series & it's amazing what a difference they make over the book. Being able to listen on the way to work, whilst out doing chores, etc. is cool. I can feel the confidence building inside me, it's like my own personal coach.
The C&F doesn't come naturally to me at present so I've taken your advice and am using the internet as a 'woman simulator' in order to practice. I've had mixed results so far, I think a few took the teasing the wrong way as some of them would suddenly stop replying.
I must be better at the C&F than I thought though. The first time I went on this site I was chatting to a few girls and one of them ended up giving me her mobile and asking if we could go for coffee before I had chance to.
Anyway my question: You suggest that a date should simply be 'tea & stimulating conversation', which for all of the reasons you give makes perfect sense to me. But once I've done the tea & conversation with this girl, do you have any suggestions for other dates where I can come across as the 'lover' instead of the 'provider'. The only one where I wouldn't end up having to shell out (buy her stuff) that I can think of is a walk along the river or something, but that's rather dependant on the weather.
Thanks for changing my life.
>>>MY COMMENTS:
Yea, well you're welcome for the “changing your life” thing. Glad to help.
Now, you're kind of mixing up a couple of concepts that I never intended to “depend” on one another...
If you want to know where to take a woman for dates, that shouldn't be confused with whether or not you come across as a “lover” personality, and not a “provider” personality to her.
Let me ask you something... what is a “date”?
What do you think that the purpose of a “date” is?
Now, I call my material “Double Your Dating”, but what I DON'T mean is “take women out to dinner twice as much as you used to”.
The word “Dating” is simply a word that all of us guys understand to mean “romantic interactions
with women”. So I use it.
But if you want to have more romantic interactions with women, that does NOT mean that you need to “take women out on dates” in order to do it.
Are you with me?
I mean, what do couples do a year after they get together...?
They stay home most of the time, do normal things like go shopping, and generally behave like they did before they met.
This whole “going out to dinner” ritual is really an amazing concept.
It's awesome how powerful it is... and how guys really believe that they need to do it (or similar things) in order to get a woman's attention in a romantic way.
Here's the bottom line:
If you want a woman to think of you as a “lover”, then BE ONE.
If you want her to think of you as a provider, then just BE ONE.
What you haven't quite realized fully yet is that when you know how to trigger ATTRACTION in a woman, all the “normal” rules go away.
If a woman feels that powerful emotional ATTRACTION for you, then she'll do ANYTHING with you... just to be in your presence and have your attention.
If you have dialed up the ATTRACTION, then all you need to say is “come over here”.
No dates required.
Now, if you buy her dinner 10 times, call her 3 times a day, and chase her around, then it will be EXPECTED that you continue this pattern... and provide for her.
NOTE: If you're buying a woman dinner twice a week, giving her flowers, calling her every day, and basically “chasing” her, then you can be about 80% sure that there's another guy in the picture... but guess what? He's the one who SHE calls, and he's the one who says “Come over later, I'm busy now”... no dates required.
If you want to be a LOVER to a woman, then DO IT.
You don't need to wait until the third time out for coffee or tea.
You'll learn that ATTRACTION doesn't have a timeline.
It happens VERY QUICKLY, if you know how to trigger it... and you don't need a lot of “date ideas” once you do.
And now that I've avoided your question for a page or two, let me answer with this:
I often take women to do “regular” things with me. I'll take them to the grocery store to shop with me, out to the mall to pick things up, and down to the bookstore to buy a book.
First, start BEING the LOVER immediately.
Then, notice how women DON'T CARE what you do together, as long as she's with you.
***SUCCESS STORY***
Afshin,
Just wanted to say that after reading your material, I experienced a mental shift. I now see situations in terms of: was I self-referenced (C & F Man) or externally referenced (wussie boy)? It is now very clear that success in anything comes to leaders not followers and women hate dealing with followers. For example look at little boys dealing with little girls when they are playing together. They boss them around, make them play by their rules and those girls grow up expecting men to lead them. Just watch any John Garfield or Lee Marvin movie. Leaders get the girl, wussies get to be used and discarded. I've made my choice.
Thanks Afshin
E from Chi
>>>MY COMMENTS:
Good. Now help me get the word out to the other 3 billion guys on the planet.
You're right. Women don't like men who are FOLLOWERS.
Women aren't ATTRACTED to men who are FOLLOWERS.
But guess what? Most men FOLLOW anyway.
Thanks for reminding us that we need to LEAD.
Leading creates ATTRACTION. Following creates the curious dry feeling.
***SUCCESS STORY***
Afshin--
I definitely have to give it to you. You are "da shizznitt",lol. Your DYD dvd series has really changed my entire life. I now feel like I am in control of "My World". I was a little hesitant about buying your product... but I just said "What the Hell...What can I loose???" I am military and in my spare time I am a bartender. You know what that means... I see females out the izzass, lol. I was working one night and a female came up to one of my fellow bartenders to order something and while getting her drink... she asked told him... "all these guys are staring at me. Do you think i'm cute?" Now normally if I were in his shoes and hadn't learned what you taught me... I would have melted and told her that she was the finest thing to step foot on this base... case in point...that was what he said. He just bent down unzipped his pants and practically handed her his nuts. Hence, herhands being the nutcracker. I interrupted them while he was "dazed and confused" and told her "Actually they're looking at that big pimple on your forehead. She stopped and turned towards me and laughed and hit me on the arm. Then I told her not to get mad cuz I was cuter than she. She smiled and for some odd reason... she could not keep herself away from the bar. I just pretended that she was one of my friends that I tease all the time and just called her on everything that she did. Man... I couldn't believe that she was really eating this up!!! The other bartender that she was talking to first, couldn't believe that I was doing this!!! He.... for some odd reason didn't GET what was going on... It was like jets flying over his head. And to show that his nuts belonged to her... he just kept trying to compliment her. She just glanced at him smiled and quickly turned her head to pay him no mind. I got her e-mail and number and she has been like putty in my hands for the past three months. I have to give it to you,Afshin. You da man!!! I'm not a selfish person...so I gave him your e-mail address and hopefully he'll get your system and realize what he's been doing wrong. I should give him her e-mail address so that he can ask for his balls back,lol. But... for those who have doubts about Dave's system... I'm living proof of success.
Thanks Afshin!!!
JR - Mexico
>>>MY COMMENTS:
OK, first of all, I think that you must have some kind of bizarre NUT OBSESSION, dude.
And it's not right.
But hey, fortunately you're on the right side of the “don't hand them over” equation, so everything seems like it might be all right for you.
You've given some great examples of how to get an attractive woman's attention, tease her, and play with her to “spark” that initial sexual tension and “chemistry”.
Now make sure you keep it up so you're not writing me in 3 more months with the “She used the Trojan Horse De-Nutting Technique” on me.
***QUESTION***
Hey Man,
What has happened to women's standards? All the beautiful babes with no neck dorks! I am a good looking guy and I can't even get a phone number. They go out with guys that weigh like 300 lbs and dress like slobs. I wear nice clothes and drive a nice car and I can't get a single date. Maybe it is where I live. In order to get a date I will have to gain 200 lbs and have someone break my nose so I am ugly enough for some girl to date me. American girls suck! They have no taste anymore!
I give up!
>>>MY COMMENTS:
No, I think that the problem is that you whine like a whipped Biatch.
Women can smell a “victim” attitude 100 miles away, and it IS NOT ATTRACTIVE.
Women's “standards” are just fine.
The problem isn't them, it's YOU.
Now do yourself a favor and quit ACTING like a little girl, and DO SOMETHING about your situation.
What, do you think that all the average and ugly guys out there who have HOT girlfriends are getting them by being ugly?
The answer is “No, they're not”.
These guys are getting the babes because they know how to make the women feel ATTRACTION.
Trust me, I know quite a few guys who are NOT exactly the picture of “handsome”... but these guys get a lot of women.
Why?
Because they KNOW HOW.
Now quit whining, and go LEARN.
Hi AFshin,
I just bought the advanced CD series & it's amazing what a difference they make over the book. Being able to listen on the way to work, whilst out doing chores, etc. is cool. I can feel the confidence building inside me, it's like my own personal coach.
The C&F doesn't come naturally to me at present so I've taken your advice and am using the internet as a 'woman simulator' in order to practice. I've had mixed results so far, I think a few took the teasing the wrong way as some of them would suddenly stop replying.
I must be better at the C&F than I thought though. The first time I went on this site I was chatting to a few girls and one of them ended up giving me her mobile and asking if we could go for coffee before I had chance to.
Anyway my question: You suggest that a date should simply be 'tea & stimulating conversation', which for all of the reasons you give makes perfect sense to me. But once I've done the tea & conversation with this girl, do you have any suggestions for other dates where I can come across as the 'lover' instead of the 'provider'. The only one where I wouldn't end up having to shell out (buy her stuff) that I can think of is a walk along the river or something, but that's rather dependant on the weather.
Thanks for changing my life.
>>>MY COMMENTS:
Yea, well you're welcome for the “changing your life” thing. Glad to help.
Now, you're kind of mixing up a couple of concepts that I never intended to “depend” on one another...
If you want to know where to take a woman for dates, that shouldn't be confused with whether or not you come across as a “lover” personality, and not a “provider” personality to her.
Let me ask you something... what is a “date”?
What do you think that the purpose of a “date” is?
Now, I call my material “Double Your Dating”, but what I DON'T mean is “take women out to dinner twice as much as you used to”.
The word “Dating” is simply a word that all of us guys understand to mean “romantic interactions
with women”. So I use it.
But if you want to have more romantic interactions with women, that does NOT mean that you need to “take women out on dates” in order to do it.
Are you with me?
I mean, what do couples do a year after they get together...?
They stay home most of the time, do normal things like go shopping, and generally behave like they did before they met.
This whole “going out to dinner” ritual is really an amazing concept.
It's awesome how powerful it is... and how guys really believe that they need to do it (or similar things) in order to get a woman's attention in a romantic way.
Here's the bottom line:
If you want a woman to think of you as a “lover”, then BE ONE.
If you want her to think of you as a provider, then just BE ONE.
What you haven't quite realized fully yet is that when you know how to trigger ATTRACTION in a woman, all the “normal” rules go away.
If a woman feels that powerful emotional ATTRACTION for you, then she'll do ANYTHING with you... just to be in your presence and have your attention.
If you have dialed up the ATTRACTION, then all you need to say is “come over here”.
No dates required.
Now, if you buy her dinner 10 times, call her 3 times a day, and chase her around, then it will be EXPECTED that you continue this pattern... and provide for her.
NOTE: If you're buying a woman dinner twice a week, giving her flowers, calling her every day, and basically “chasing” her, then you can be about 80% sure that there's another guy in the picture... but guess what? He's the one who SHE calls, and he's the one who says “Come over later, I'm busy now”... no dates required.
If you want to be a LOVER to a woman, then DO IT.
You don't need to wait until the third time out for coffee or tea.
You'll learn that ATTRACTION doesn't have a timeline.
It happens VERY QUICKLY, if you know how to trigger it... and you don't need a lot of “date ideas” once you do.
And now that I've avoided your question for a page or two, let me answer with this:
I often take women to do “regular” things with me. I'll take them to the grocery store to shop with me, out to the mall to pick things up, and down to the bookstore to buy a book.
First, start BEING the LOVER immediately.
Then, notice how women DON'T CARE what you do together, as long as she's with you.
***SUCCESS STORY***
Afshin,
Just wanted to say that after reading your material, I experienced a mental shift. I now see situations in terms of: was I self-referenced (C & F Man) or externally referenced (wussie boy)? It is now very clear that success in anything comes to leaders not followers and women hate dealing with followers. For example look at little boys dealing with little girls when they are playing together. They boss them around, make them play by their rules and those girls grow up expecting men to lead them. Just watch any John Garfield or Lee Marvin movie. Leaders get the girl, wussies get to be used and discarded. I've made my choice.
Thanks Afshin
E from Chi
>>>MY COMMENTS:
Good. Now help me get the word out to the other 3 billion guys on the planet.
You're right. Women don't like men who are FOLLOWERS.
Women aren't ATTRACTED to men who are FOLLOWERS.
But guess what? Most men FOLLOW anyway.
Thanks for reminding us that we need to LEAD.
Leading creates ATTRACTION. Following creates the curious dry feeling.
***SUCCESS STORY***
Afshin--
I definitely have to give it to you. You are "da shizznitt",lol. Your DYD dvd series has really changed my entire life. I now feel like I am in control of "My World". I was a little hesitant about buying your product... but I just said "What the Hell...What can I loose???" I am military and in my spare time I am a bartender. You know what that means... I see females out the izzass, lol. I was working one night and a female came up to one of my fellow bartenders to order something and while getting her drink... she asked told him... "all these guys are staring at me. Do you think i'm cute?" Now normally if I were in his shoes and hadn't learned what you taught me... I would have melted and told her that she was the finest thing to step foot on this base... case in point...that was what he said. He just bent down unzipped his pants and practically handed her his nuts. Hence, herhands being the nutcracker. I interrupted them while he was "dazed and confused" and told her "Actually they're looking at that big pimple on your forehead. She stopped and turned towards me and laughed and hit me on the arm. Then I told her not to get mad cuz I was cuter than she. She smiled and for some odd reason... she could not keep herself away from the bar. I just pretended that she was one of my friends that I tease all the time and just called her on everything that she did. Man... I couldn't believe that she was really eating this up!!! The other bartender that she was talking to first, couldn't believe that I was doing this!!! He.... for some odd reason didn't GET what was going on... It was like jets flying over his head. And to show that his nuts belonged to her... he just kept trying to compliment her. She just glanced at him smiled and quickly turned her head to pay him no mind. I got her e-mail and number and she has been like putty in my hands for the past three months. I have to give it to you,Afshin. You da man!!! I'm not a selfish person...so I gave him your e-mail address and hopefully he'll get your system and realize what he's been doing wrong. I should give him her e-mail address so that he can ask for his balls back,lol. But... for those who have doubts about Dave's system... I'm living proof of success.
Thanks Afshin!!!
JR - Mexico
>>>MY COMMENTS:
OK, first of all, I think that you must have some kind of bizarre NUT OBSESSION, dude.
And it's not right.
But hey, fortunately you're on the right side of the “don't hand them over” equation, so everything seems like it might be all right for you.
You've given some great examples of how to get an attractive woman's attention, tease her, and play with her to “spark” that initial sexual tension and “chemistry”.
Now make sure you keep it up so you're not writing me in 3 more months with the “She used the Trojan Horse De-Nutting Technique” on me.
***QUESTION***
Hey Man,
What has happened to women's standards? All the beautiful babes with no neck dorks! I am a good looking guy and I can't even get a phone number. They go out with guys that weigh like 300 lbs and dress like slobs. I wear nice clothes and drive a nice car and I can't get a single date. Maybe it is where I live. In order to get a date I will have to gain 200 lbs and have someone break my nose so I am ugly enough for some girl to date me. American girls suck! They have no taste anymore!
I give up!
>>>MY COMMENTS:
No, I think that the problem is that you whine like a whipped Biatch.
Women can smell a “victim” attitude 100 miles away, and it IS NOT ATTRACTIVE.
Women's “standards” are just fine.
The problem isn't them, it's YOU.
Now do yourself a favor and quit ACTING like a little girl, and DO SOMETHING about your situation.
What, do you think that all the average and ugly guys out there who have HOT girlfriends are getting them by being ugly?
The answer is “No, they're not”.
These guys are getting the babes because they know how to make the women feel ATTRACTION.
Trust me, I know quite a few guys who are NOT exactly the picture of “handsome”... but these guys get a lot of women.
Why?
Because they KNOW HOW.
Now quit whining, and go LEARN.
hala yeroozi be moghash beheton migim 
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