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  • #91
    Originally posted by abadani69 View Post
    Bichare Kam ovord. Mike Heineken nakhor, Corona bokhor ba Lime. Be a man and drink real shit

    have corona lemon and some tabasco and salt now that a drink

    na i like the taste of hiniken more


    G-d determines who walks into your life....It is up to you to decide who you let walk away, who you let stay, and who you refuse to let go.


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    • #92
      The truth is that:

      -Israel was founded just for US interests...israel is the "eye" of US in the mid-east...US wants to gain the whole control of the mid-east to have under control the whole petrol zones and then whole world will depend from US...

      -Ahmadinejad, Khatami, Rafsanjani are nothing...the "person" behind those ppl is Khamenei...he counts to make decisions in iran not others.. the policies, speeches that the presidents have done are made by Khamenei...

      The thing that US & Israel and Mullahs have in common is that they DON'T CARE about their population....they care only to have power,money,control...who cares if the population is poor? who cares if a lot of innocent die every day? WHO CARES?!?!

      It's a pity that US has a lot of IRANIAN BRAINS (researchers, doctors, engineers etc..) and use them to be the only country in the world with everything ppl need.. (do you have cancer? just go to US ...do you have heart illness? go to US)
      If those stupid mullahs weren't in our country, we now have the best brains, the best welfare in the whole world! that's why US bring Khomeini into power...

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      • #93
        Ramin jaan,
        let me tell you something about those who are born in usa and call themselves IRANIAN-AMERICANs. USA policy is that they change history in the way they want and publish it as facts and feed it to people. let's say you read something in a middle eastern country about iranian history, i bet it is 100% opposite of the same book in USA prespective's history writers. cause people are BRAINWASHED in here. i used to discuss alot of things with MIKE about these religion stuff, but guess what?? he doesnt know iranian history pretty good cause his sources are limited to what AMERICANS are giving him, and then since he was raised here he cant accept what other countries are gonna say about Iran, so no blame on mike.
        i asked my roommate ( he is really into these religious stuff), i said look do you believe that jesus was betrayed by a JEW? so why Christians are good with jews? you know what he told me? he said yeah jesus knew he is gonna be betrayed by a jew, but if something happened in the past it doesnt mean we are gonna still hate it, i said ok so you are telling me that in 100 or 1000 years everybody is gonna fortget about 9/11 and not hate muslims? he couldnt answer me u know why? cause he doesnt believe in what he was saying, he was just saying it cause he was told that way, Just Like Mike, he says stuff that everybody else would say in here, but with no logic.


        Man gonaham ine asheghet shodam
        Kheili narahatam az daste khodam
        Ma ke goftim to az eshghe ma sarrri
        Pas chera baz ham dary del mibary
        Boro, Boro, Boro, Boro
        Boro, Boro, Boro, Boro....

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        • #94
          Originally posted by persian_king View Post
          Ramin jaan,
          let me tell you something about those who are born in usa and call themselves IRANIAN-AMERICANs. USA policy is that they change history in the way they want and publish it as facts and feed it to people. let's say you read something in a middle eastern country about iranian history, i bet it is 100% opposite of the same book in USA prespective's history writers. cause people are BRAINWASHED in here. i used to discuss alot of things with MIKE about these religion stuff, but guess what?? he doesnt know iranian history pretty good cause his sources are limited to what AMERICANS are giving him, and then since he was raised here he cant accept what other countries are gonna say about Iran, so no blame on mike.
          i asked my roommate ( he is really into these religious stuff), i said look do you believe that jesus was betrayed by a JEW? so why Christians are good with jews? you know what he told me? he said yeah jesus knew he is gonna be betrayed by a jew, but if something happened in the past it doesnt mean we are gonna still hate it, i said ok so you are telling me that in 100 or 1000 years everybody is gonna fortget about 9/11 and not hate muslims? he couldnt answer me u know why? cause he doesnt believe in what he was saying, he was just saying it cause he was told that way, Just Like Mike, he says stuff that everybody else would say in here, but with no logic.
          regarding americans forgeting
          you friend forgot to mention the situation with japanies and pearlharbor, germans, itiliy
          russia and soviet block
          i think iranians living in america is another example that showes people are willing to look past history and what happend to theme
          there are so many other examples
          look at all the immigrant group who come into this country and while they better the country as a whole they still take a way jobs from a small segment yet they are stilll intergrated
          i think when it comes to relligion it is a bit diffrnt because realligion has a foundation in faith and faith is not based on facts or logic

          and regarding american brainwash
          were else do you see so much anti american sentimant than in the american class rooms. almost every one of my classes there is this blined self hating of america i think there is more anti american sentimant in my collge class than their is some other countries

          one example was do you think the world is better or worse off becuse of the united states? almost everyone said worse off including the professor


          G-d determines who walks into your life....It is up to you to decide who you let walk away, who you let stay, and who you refuse to let go.


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          • #95
            Mike,sobh shode vo tu dary hanooz bahs mikoni che bikariha

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            • #96
              Originally posted by persian_king View Post
              Ramin jaan,
              let me tell you something about those who are born in usa and call themselves IRANIAN-AMERICANs. USA policy is that they change history in the way they want and publish it as facts and feed it to people. let's say you read something in a middle eastern country about iranian history, i bet it is 100% opposite of the same book in USA prespective's history writers. cause people are BRAINWASHED in here. i used to discuss alot of things with MIKE about these religion stuff, but guess what?? he doesnt know iranian history pretty good cause his sources are limited to what AMERICANS are giving him, and then since he was raised here he cant accept what other countries are gonna say about Iran, so no blame on mike.
              i asked my roommate ( he is really into these religious stuff), i said look do you believe that jesus was betrayed by a JEW? so why Christians are good with jews? you know what he told me? he said yeah jesus knew he is gonna be betrayed by a jew, but if something happened in the past it doesnt mean we are gonna still hate it, i said ok so you are telling me that in 100 or 1000 years everybody is gonna fortget about 9/11 and not hate muslims? he couldnt answer me u know why? cause he doesnt believe in what he was saying, he was just saying it cause he was told that way, Just Like Mike, he says stuff that everybody else would say in here, but with no logic.
              I think its stupid and disrespectul for someone who doesn't know shit about what they're saying to keep blabbering away here or anywhere for that matter. Freedom of speech is good as long as it doesn't result in tragedies like today. You're right, what's more stupid is the person who forces their child to be brainwashed with a false perspective, and so Mike is the victim here, though what he does in my opinion is still very stupid and disrespectul, and that any human being is capable of realizing this. Yet he continues... that's how bad it is...

              Aziz, I appreciate your comments. It's good to see at least some who are defending our country for freedom in the future. I know our government is bad, though it is now much more controlled by the people. That's a great accomplishment we should be proud of. But internationally speaking, the US is the biggest criminal and deserves "regime change". It's ridiculous to assume legitimacy of the United States government. It's absolutely illegal and criminal in the international arena which is so important for the world and for a good life. I'm freakin annoyed by a bunch of sore losers trying to bring everyone else down with them.

              About Mike, the only thing that is proper is to remind him that he's Persian, also that he's not king of the world. If he gets these two facts down good, he won't have any problems. As an Irani, he has no right to assume that he's right and that all other Iranis are wrong. When Iran goes to the polls and makes progress, he does not have the right to reject it and act superior, as if only HE knows what is good for Iran. He's not the master of Iranians so I personally believe he shouldn't act like he is.

              Cheers aziz.
              Last edited by zubin; 02-07-2007, 12:34 PM.
              Take him and cut him out in little stars,
              and he will make the face of heaven so fine,
              that all the world will be in love with night,
              and pay no worship to the garish sun

              - Shakespeare

              "In all intellectual debates, both sides tend to be correct in what they affirm, and wrong in what they deny." - JS Mill

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              • #97
                good thing there are few of me in this world than


                G-d determines who walks into your life....It is up to you to decide who you let walk away, who you let stay, and who you refuse to let go.


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                • #98
                  Originally posted by mike435 View Post
                  good thing there are few of me in this world than
                  You're full of yourself eh? What's so good about you King Tutt?

                  For me, you've lost all respect. I lost all respect for you right when you indicated that you think your opinion is valid and important but the average Iranian's isn't. To me, that's the most despicable thing.
                  Last edited by zubin; 02-07-2007, 12:47 PM.
                  Take him and cut him out in little stars,
                  and he will make the face of heaven so fine,
                  that all the world will be in love with night,
                  and pay no worship to the garish sun

                  - Shakespeare

                  "In all intellectual debates, both sides tend to be correct in what they affirm, and wrong in what they deny." - JS Mill

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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by joubin View Post
                    You're full of yourself eh? What's so good about you King Tutt?

                    For me, you've lost all respect. I lost all respect for you right when you indicated that you think your opinion is valid and important but the average Iranian's isn't. To me, that's the most despicable thing.

                    when did i say that

                    you know what anyways you are the one who dosent want to look at my facts

                    you say america brainwashes yet it is the leading country that nurtures so many thinking styles and becuse of that it has made the world a much better place from complex machines to technologies to being the leader in globlization

                    somone said amricans cant forget i gave some of the best example that the can forget yet you choose to ignore that

                    you say israel constantly attack and invades and destiblizes the middle east for its benefits

                    and i say look at 67 and 73 and 48 but yu choose to ignore that and only look at your own buble that helps you be rihght you selectivly search for what supports your argumant and just on whloe sale level ignor and disregard other facts

                    also not this

                    not once in this entire converation did i disrespect any group or identity by generelazation yet you did over and over again and i am the racist

                    and getting back to the subject and taking out angar
                    whoese taking out angar on who
                    it was a ****ing add and i painted a rationlazation of how they came up with the add

                    as i said again dont take out your anger on me you are pissed about the add do somthng about it why are you arguing with me as you can see you wont be able to change my opinion nither will i be able to change yours

                    the add pissed you write a letter to the group and tell them how they are wrong and they should stop it

                    stop bitching take action


                    G-d determines who walks into your life....It is up to you to decide who you let walk away, who you let stay, and who you refuse to let go.


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                    • Originally posted by mike435 View Post
                      when did i say that
                      You showed it many times. You are disrespectful in my opinion to regular Iranis by constantly saying Ahmadinejad is our dictator or that we don't have a democracy. But we've accomplished to rise in the polls and take a lot of power. But you reject it. You think your opinion is the most important and right there I learned who you really are, and I lost all respect for you.

                      you say america brainwashes yet it is the leading country that nurtures so many thinking styles and becuse of that it has made the world a much better place from complex machines to technologies to being the leader in globlization
                      What a BUNCH OF CRAP. Mike, you make absolutely no sense. You are clearly defending some Americans and their patriotism, and their sense of pride. But you are not making any sense. The US brainwashed people into elections, brainwashed people on information about the world, and continuously brainwashes them on domestic and foreign policy that suits the benefits of a radical few. That's sick.

                      The US does not have diversity of thought. It is very well researched fact and straight-forwardly obvious that US culture silences many views. That's why the concept of "silencing" was invented in the US as well.

                      Yes, the US has made some strides in scientific progress, but its just because they hijacked that continent and everyone's rights in the world. I'm not here to discount the good things. I'm stating the very, very negative things that need to change. I find it sick that you avoid these negative things and bring up positive things, and so, effectively ignore the pathological nature of the US. That's sick.

                      you say israel constantly attack and invades and destiblizes the middle east for its benefits. and i say look at 67 and 73 and 48 but yu choose to ignore that and only look at your own buble that helps you be rihght you selectivly search for what supports your argumant and just on whloe sale level ignor and disregard other facts
                      You're saying Israel was benevolent in those wars? Israel just came out of conducting genocide and you're saying they were willing to compromise a little in those times? Who gives A SHIT.

                      Also--- The topic is NOW. We can not play the delusional brain-Zioned video game and erase the fact that Israel incites hatred, war and has constantly expanded its territory. These facts are SUFFICIENT to show that Israel is the wrong country for the Middle East.

                      not once in this entire converation did i disrespect any group or identity by generelazation yet you did over and over again and i am the racist
                      I didn't call you directly racist, but I do believe the things you support are racist. I made an argument for it that's valid. Also, I believe you do offend Iranis completely by disregarding their rights, voice and political direction which offend nobody. To me, as I said, that's the most despicable: To believe your views are more important than the WHOLE NATION OF IRAN. But its ok, there will be despicable friends as well; there are many. It's like reflex.

                      and getting back to the subject and taking out angar
                      whoese taking out angar on who
                      it was a ****ing add and i painted a rationlazation of how they came up with the add

                      as i said again dont take out your anger on me you are pissed about the add do somthng about it why are you arguing with me as you can see you wont be able to change my opinion nither will i be able to change yours
                      Israel is taking its anger for its past on the wrong people Mike. I'm upset at you, but I dont take out my anger at the wrong people.

                      the add pissed you write a letter to the group and tell them how they are wrong and they should stop it

                      stop bitching take action
                      Shut the hell up man. I don't follow your personal ideology. You dont set the ways, and you don't set the times. I'm not going to follow some stupid system that has ruined the world, and that supports people like YOU.

                      You don't know shit, I do take action. But thanks Master Mike. Hopefully you can enlighten me more on how the whole world including myself should follow the American way or no way.
                      Last edited by zubin; 02-07-2007, 02:02 PM.
                      Take him and cut him out in little stars,
                      and he will make the face of heaven so fine,
                      that all the world will be in love with night,
                      and pay no worship to the garish sun

                      - Shakespeare

                      "In all intellectual debates, both sides tend to be correct in what they affirm, and wrong in what they deny." - JS Mill

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                      • this is quite a heated discussion
                        there are facts and then there are people who view it in their own way by producing something out of the air and calling it a fact, those kinda arguments will have no end, because there will always be opposing ways, the right verses the left and so on. maybe we can agree to disagree or vice versa on certain things when we don't see eye to eye.

                        from the previous discussions i have noticed that mike has a double standard, and quite frankly speaking i dunno where he stands, in one way he seems to be a proud iranian and then being jewish he feels a strong link to israel, also he pays respect to america, thats fine, its his opinion and stance, however it becomes confusing when he supports ahmadinejad in his nuclear ambitions and is sad for the iranian student who got tasered in ucla, it doesn't add up.
                        unless i am making a mistake and i don't mind being proven wrong.

                        maybe at the end of the day after all is said and done, the right will shake hands with the left and if they don't want to agree on a single thing, they will walk their separate ways and have maybe learned something from eachother. cheers!

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                        • dava dava dava,sare kare vo morabaaaaaaaa

                          Mike,baba,go get a life. mibini inja hame anti Israel vo jews hastan, in vasat tu neshasty dari chi migi vase khodet. age az man mishnavi,ta ye balaai saret naiomade inja bahs ro edame nade va ella dige har chi didi az cheshme khodet didi

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                          • if holding you to same standards

                            i dont see you respecting my other identitys yet you claim that i dont respect iranians becuase of my opinion you know what thats ****ing bull shit bull shit

                            opinions are like asholes you have and i have one and iranian people have one and if mine interfire with the masses view point so ****ing what call it dicent

                            how come it is ok to dicent the common point of view but not the minority or under dogg

                            what says that the under dogg is always right
                            or the one with power is wrong
                            why is one of the requierments for decent to hate america or its policy

                            i said take action and you said the american system is flawed so how will you take action what are you going to do just blog on this foram which dosent do anyting

                            i really want to know if any of you guys who said anything about this video will acctualy do anything about, or will you just look at it get pissed and say to your self damn these jews go around influencing american opinion to put sanctions on iran.

                            just remember there are more iraninans than there are jews who fund these add campaighns,

                            and if you refuse to use the system to your advantage you are the looser.
                            i really hope some of you guys orginize and email the producer of that campaigh

                            remeber every one has used the same bs system to there advantage

                            blacks, japanies , jews ,

                            its just they have been doing it for years

                            and now it some one else turn

                            its like haze week now it iranians turn

                            do you know how many diffrnt emails and petitions i get every month against irans holocust confrence

                            so jubin why dont you hold your self to the same standards you preach
                            Last edited by mike435; 02-07-2007, 04:06 PM.


                            G-d determines who walks into your life....It is up to you to decide who you let walk away, who you let stay, and who you refuse to let go.


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                            • nutcase regarding your post i dont even ****ing know who i am any more

                              as i said best example

                              iranian mother fighting israeli dad while married to american wife
                              and oerty much fighting with all of theme
                              ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh hhhhhhhhhhhhhh

                              and as my flip flop its not really a flip flop it what i mean and say


                              G-d determines who walks into your life....It is up to you to decide who you let walk away, who you let stay, and who you refuse to let go.


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                              • Originally posted by abadani69 View Post
                                dava dava dava,sare kare vo morabaaaaaaaa

                                Mike,baba,go get a life. mibini inja hame anti Israel vo jews hastan, in vasat tu neshasty dari chi migi vase khodet. age az man mishnavi,ta ye balaai saret naiomade inja bahs ro edame nade va ella dige har chi didi az cheshme khodet didi

                                abadani bi hal kon baba

                                it acctualy good for me in between clases i come here and write


                                G-d determines who walks into your life....It is up to you to decide who you let walk away, who you let stay, and who you refuse to let go.


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