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  • Rasputin
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    • Jan 2005
    • 63906

    #16
    Iranian Rock Band Has a New York Moment

    Performing Monday night at Fat Baby bar on the Lower East Side, the four members of Hypernova almost made it through their set before distinguishing themselves from the many other hip and hungry young talents who come to New York seeking musical recognition.

    “We have no idea how good or bad we are — we’ve just been playing in Iran,” blurted out Raam, the group’s 25-year-old songwriter and frontman, to howls of encouragement from an audience of about 30 people stacked with Iranian-American friends and supporters. Nonchalance is a hard act to master.

    “It may not seem like much to you, but it’s a dream to be here,” he went on, his fluent, accented English hinting at years spent on and off in the United States. “It took us forever.”

    He was referring to the lengthy delays in obtaining visas to travel from Tehran, a waiting game spent agonizing over the deteriorating state of United States-Iranian relations. “Every day we’d wake up and say, ‘Please, don’t let Iran be on the front page again.’ ”

    Raam, like his bandmates Kodi, 17, the guitarist; Jamshid, 26, the bass player; and Kami, 25, the drummer; goes by a derivation of his first name to avoid undue attention at home. “What we do in Iran is not as easy as it seems,” Raam said, with a verbal swagger belying the risk, in Iran, of performances that can lead to arrest, large fines and even a public flogging.


    Rock music has been officially deemed contrary to the Islamic republic’s moral code. In December 2005, the president of Iran, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, banned all Western music from state-run airwaves in a reversal of reforms made under his more liberal predecessor.

    Elsewhere, outside of Iran, Raam pointed out, musicians enjoy freedom. “We’re jeopardizing our lives every show we play,” he said. “I guess there’s that adventurous side added to the process that gives it that extra rush, that makes it even more rewarding and exciting. It’s definitely worth it. Performing underground in Tehran is the best drug.”

    The product of a liberal upbringing and education in the West, Raam returned to Iran to collaborate with other musicians in the underground of Tehran — “you know, in places full of cockroaches,” he said.

    Gigs are still played in only private spaces: basements in large homes in Tehran, or villas out of town and ostensibly beyond the reach of a vast and prying network of state agents loyal to the ruling clerical establishment. The band is not too choosy, either. He admits to playing at a girl’s 14th birthday party.

    Raam said he saw rock as a force for social and political change in a country of 70 million people, where the median age is 25, access to satellite TV and the Internet is widespread and ineffectively censored, and the ideals of the Islamic revolution have less hold over a younger generation. Young people in Iran “just want to do things that normal kids do around the world,” Raam said. “They just want to listen to music, they want to dress nice, to party.”

    Like many other unsigned bands, Hypernova has a MySpace page on the Web, with a list of musical influences almost entirely Western in origin. And all of its songs are written in English, though most of the members barely speak the language. “Farsi for me, it’s a really poetic and harmonious language,” Raam said, not one well-suited to the “harsh and really energetic rock sound.”

    Raam largely stays off the topic of politics in interviews, but amid his hyperpaced lyrics is the occasional reference to world events. And perhaps even a disparaging remark about a president, though which president, in the context of an Iranian rock band playing in New York, remains open to interpretation.


    iran

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    • Rasputin
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      • Jan 2005
      • 63906

      #17
      دومین آلبوم گروه كیوسك با نام «عشق سرعت» منتشر شد.
      پس از انتشار موفقیت*آمیز نخستین آلبوم این گروه با نام آدم معمولی، كیوسك تصمیم گرفته مضامین اجتماعی و سیاسی ترانه*ها و عادت*های ریاكارانه در جامعه ایران را در این آلبوم نیز ادامه دهد. روی جلد این آلبوم اخطاری با این مضمون «اولیا محترم، اخطار، اشعار مبتذل» درج شده است.
      قطعه ویژه این مجموعه آهنگ و ترانه «عمو اسدالله» است كه ترانه آن مبتنی بر دیالوگ*های رمان دایی*جان ناپلئون نوشته ایرج پزشكزاد است و این قطعه در حقیقت ادای دینی به این اثر ماندگار است.
      ترانه*ها همان زبان و كلماتی را به كار می*برند كه در فضای امروز تهران تبدیل به عادت شده است. این آلبوم را نیز مانند آلبوم قبلی شرکت بم آهنگ در کانادا منتشر کرده است.

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      • Rasputin
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        • Jan 2005
        • 63906

        #18
        هفته گذشته گروه متال "صفیر عرش" اولین آلبومش را بعد از شش سال به بازار فرستاد. اگر چه این آلبوم را باید سالها پیشتر گوش می کردیم، اما هنوز هم بعد از شش سال گوش دادن به آن خالی از لطف نیست. صفیرعرش استعاره و اشاره ای است به مولانا شاعر ایرانی. صفیر به آوای آسمانی و معنوی گفته می شود و اعضای این گروه اشعار مولانا را آوایی از آسمان می دانند. با پژمان واثقی آهنگساز، نوازنده گیتار و هسته مرکزی این گروه کفتگویی کرده ایم:
        آلبوم صفیر عرش چند سال پیش شده؟

        آهنگسازی آن رسما از سال 76 شروع شد، اما ضبطش سال 2001 بود. یعنی حدود شش سال پیش بوده است.

        از همان اول هم با همین ترکیب کار کردید و اسم گروه همین بود؟

        گروه تقریبا سه دوره متفاوت داشته است. مرحله نهایی که از سال 76 با هم کارکردیم همان کسانی بودند که این آلبوم را ساختند. تعدادی از ما قبلا در گروه دیگری به نام"mad maxes" بودیم. بعد تغییراتی پیدا کرد و ما گروه "Persian Princes" را انتخاب کردیم و در نهایت به ترکیب دیگری رسیدیم که اسمش را صفیر عرش گذاشتیم.

        گروه صفیر عرش

        کویر درون اسم یکی از قطعات بی کلام آلبوم است که روی آلبوم هم همین نام را گذاشتید. چرا اسم این قطعه را که تنها قطعه بی کلام آلبوم است، کویر درون گذاشتید؟

        این قطعه برای کویر درون آدم ها ساخته شده است. من دو سال در کویت زندگی می کردم و آنجا بود که کویر را به معنای واقعی درک کردم و دیدم. منظورم این است که آنجا آخر کویر است و وقتی به آن نگاه می کردم یاد کویر دورن آدم ها و فطرت بایر بعضی از آنها می افتادم .از حال و هوای این قطعه هم احساسم کاملا قابل درک است و کاملا معلوم است که کار به کویر خشک و بی روح دورن انسان ها اشاره می کند. مثلا گیتار دارد حرف های گلایه ای و اعتراض آمیزی را از انسان ها بیان می کند. کویر درون آدم ها از این کویر که به چش می بینیم خشک تر و سخت تر است.

        پس معلوم است که خیلی کویت را دوست نداشتی

        راستش را بخواهی نه. چون بیشتر آدم هایش با دوز و کلک برخورد می کردند و کمتر نشانی از صداقت وجود داشت و شاید این به همان دلیل مجاورت با طبعت کویری و خشک آنجا بود. به هر حال آن دو سال خیلی برایم سخت گذشت و این هم حاصل یکی از کارهای آنجاست.

        صفیر عرش هنوز هم فعال است یا فقط اسمس از آن باقی مانده؟

        فعال است اما بعضی از نوازنده ها رفته اند. مثلا رضا خوشنویس برای تحصیلات به اروپا رفته و در حال حاضر من، ژوبین محمودی نوازنده درامز و فرزاد محمودی خواننده گروه از اعضای اصلی گروه باقی مانده اند.

        این آلبوم را سال 2001 ضبط کردید با این حساب باید کارهای زیادی داشته باشید که بعد از کویر درون ساخته شده باشد.

        ما در حال حاضر به اندازه دو آلبوم دیگر هم کارهای صبط شده و آماده داریم.



        چرا به جای این آلبوم که خیلی قدیمی شده و مربوط به تحربه های قدیمی شماست کارهای جدیدتر را به بازار نفرستادید؟

        ما این کارها را خیلی دوست داشتیم و آلبوم بعدی مان هم تقریبا آماده است و تقریبا هفتاد درصد کارهایش انجام شده و به زودی بیرون می آید. برنامه ما این است که از این به بعد سالی یک آلبوم بیرون بدهیم. درضمن اینقدرها هم که شما فکر می کنید کارها قدیمی نیست. با اینکه کارها خیلی وقت است ساخته شده همه تنظیم ها جدید است. البته بعضی از کارها هم همین اواخر ساخته شده.

        این کارهای موسیقی هم مثل ساختن فیلم است. ممکن است فیلمنامه یک فیلمی ده سال قبل نوشته شده باشد. اما ساختنش در یک مرحله دیگر باشد در ضمن پنجاه درصد فیلمنامه هم زمان فیلمبرداری عوض می شود. کار ما هم همینطور بوده و کار تازه ای است. اسکلت آلبوم برای 2001 است، اما با تنظیمی جدید.

        پس به نظر خودت آلبومت برای امروز حرف های تازه ای دارد؟

        موسیقی متال مثل پاپ نیست که هر روز یک فرم و سبک تازه ای به خودش بگیرد. کمتر تغییر می کند و به نظرم موسیقی صفیر عرش هم بسیار زیبا و شنیدنی است.



        برای آلبوم های بعدی مجوز دارید؟

        نه هنوز دنبالش نرفتیم اما فکر نمی کنم که مشکل بزرگی داشته باشیم. فضا خیلی بهتر شده است.

        کارهای بعدی شما هم همین فرم ها را دارد یا تغییر کرده اند؟

        فکر می کنم که سبک تر شده اند.

        چرا؟ به خاطر جذب مخاطب بوده. چون مخاطب های متال ترجیح می دهند که متال غربی گوش دهند.

        یکی از دلایلش این بوده اما دلیل اصلی اش این است که این بار یک خواننده دیگربه نام فرشید حسینی هم داریم که شعر هم می گوید و برای استفاده از شعر های او باید موسیقی مان را کمی تغییر می دادیم. در آلبوم جدید دو خواننده داریم که با هم می خوانند. او احساسات بسیار زیبایی دارد مثلا جنگ را در شعرش به خوبی به کلام درآورده. آنقدر که ما که فقط از شعر مولانا استفاده می کردیم از شعرهای او هم استفاده کرده ایم .



        او هم از خواننده های متال بوده؟

        نه او خودش یک آلبوم موسیقی پاپ دارد ولی در این آلبوم با سبک متفاوتی می خواند.

        من همیشه فکر می کردم که موضوعات عرفانی و درونی اشعار مولاناست که شما را به سمت خودش کشانده اما حالا صحبت از دغدغه های اجتماعی می کنید.

        غیر از مولانا مسائل اجتماعی هم بودند که همیشه دنبال فرصتی بودیم تا به آن بپردازیم و حالا با حضور فرشید این فرصت مهیا شده است. اما آلبوم های دیگری هم داریم که بازهم مولانا کارکردیم.

        چرا گروه های متال و راک به اشعار مولانا و حافظ اینقدر علاقه دارند؟

        موسیقی راک و متال موسیقی اعتراض یا موسیقی ای است که همه چیز را پر رنگ تر از حد معمول نشان می دهد. همین سبک را در نقاشی هم داریم که نقاش ها رنگ ها را پر رنگ تر و شدید تر نشان می دهند در میان شاعران هم مولانا و حافظ از کسانی هستند که این ویژگی را دارند و از همان ابتدای شعر در اوج هستند. نقطه فرود ندارند. از طرفی غم شادی شکوه و ذلت، تنهایی و وحدت همه با هم هستند اما به دلیل اینکه این اشعار متعلق به سال ها قبل است خواستیم موضوعات امروزی را هم در شعرهایمان داشته باشیم و از آنها استفاده مردیم.



        اشتیاق و جریان موسیقی های زیرزمینی که تا چند سال پیش مثل یک تب فراگیر همه جا را گرفته بود کمرنگ شده و دیگر اشتیاق گذشته میان جوان ها نیست چرا؟

        شاید می خواهند مخخاطب بیشتری داشته باشند. اما یک دلیل عمده هم دارد و آن اینکه آهنگسازی و نوازندگی در این گروه ها آسان نیست و اکثر این گروه ها هم نتوانستند ادامه بدهند. در کشورهای دیگر هم با این موضوع مواجه هستیم. گروه هایی مثل پینک قلوید و متالیکا ماندگارند اما گروه هایی هم بودند که بعد از یکی دو آلبوم دیگر حرف تازه ای نداشتند که بزنند. خوب این مسئله در ایران پررنگ تر است. از آن مهم تر این است که فکر در گروه باشد که در گروه های ایرانی بسیار کم است.

        در گروه شما چطور فکر هایی که بتواند کارتان را ماندگار و یا ادامه دار کند وجود دارد.

        هست اما من هنوز هم به دنبال فکر های جدید و آدم های جدید برای گروه هستم. حضور فرشید و اشعار اجتماعی در آلبوم بعدی هم با همین دلیل بوده است.


        iran

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        • Rasputin
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2005
          • 63906

          #19
          KIOSK KICKS AS IT KONTINUES TO KRITICIZE!

          I finally got the go ahead from Bamahang Productions and modern guitar deity Babak Khiavchi, that the latest album by Kiosk 'Eshghe Sorat _amor de la velocidad' (Love of Speed) was finally available on iTunes. A month after the groundbreaking concert at the Great American Music Hall in San Francisco, as one of many fans of this new form of Iranian pop music, I bought the album, and eagerly put it on my iPod so I could listen uninterrupted.

          Of course we've all seen the brilliant YouTube video by Ahmad Kiarostami of the title track, 'Eshghe Sorat' (now available with English subtitles), or as I like to call it, the Pizza Ghormeh-Sabzi song! But before we get to that, I think it is important to clarify exactly what the importance of Kiosk is, now that we have a second album to quash that whole one-hit-wonder threat the first album had hanging over it's head.

          First off, the form of the music. Blues, or southern Blues-rock, and it's many variants is a courtesy and gift by legends like BB King, Muddy Waters, Eric Clapton, Mark Knopfler, and Bob Dylan. Second, this form of music is ideal for use in at once embracing and staving off the sweet pain of an inevitable plunge into one's 'Badbakhti'. So it applies very well to the general situation that founder Arash Sobhani clearly wants us to indulge in.

          On this album, what was tenderly touched on in the first Iranian album, to make you think, is now a blaring Sooreh-Esrafeel, or warning of the real situation inside Iran. You have to really listen (hence an iPod) to the words that are at times whispered with a grizzled voice that sounds a lot like Mark Knofler, post Dire Straits. The form, an obvious homage however, is the perfect vehicle for what Sobhani has to say.

          On 'Minboos Sabz' (Green Minibus), he confronts us with the silently ignored situation in Iran describing the daily inhumanity of being stopped by the government in the streets, interrogated, and questioned, and how people in Iran willingly numb themselves to the great indignity of constant surveillance and observation by religiously prude authorities. That the numbing is a choice out of hopeless survival. The clarity of what is normal daily life is what is refreshing and highly informative and imbibes a sense of solidarity in those of us blessed to be Iranians who live free.

          The information, the kind we don’t get from friends and relatives, who upon their return from a 'vacation' to Iran, conveniently leave off their trip report, or maybe they too have forgotten and become as numb as their local counterparts.

          Small audio touches like mimicking a motorcycle with a guitar when the words mention a '…moped, or a 1000 Motorcycle…', offer an audio glimpse into a landscape of stark reality and truth. On 'Amoo Asdollah' (Uncle Asdollah), you start to hear the same vein of social criticism, only part way through you realize that he is in reality singing an alternate view of the famous Iranian TV Series, 'Daie Jan Napelon' (Dear Uncle Napoleon), which ran during the 70's, and is still considered a definitive social critical moment.

          The best song for my money though is 'Bitarbiat' (No Manners), a cathartic romp through common street slang and Persian curse words that to my knowledge has never been done on any Iranian pop song. I saw this live and I must say it works very well. As yet another commentary, this time aimed at the pretentiousness of Iranian TV news reporters, who gloss over self-importance with feigned journalistic intent. The sheer glee and release of screaming the un-screamable has me wondering exactly how long it will be before we see more YouTube videos by Tehran school girls driving and singing along in their cars, screaming the fill-in-the-blank parts from car widows carelessly. In case your cursing needs help, they are in order of appearance; Jah-Kesh, Bacheh-*****, Zanikeyeh-*****h, Asabemono-Gahidan, Yeh-Moshti-Coskhol, Mardtikeyeh-Kharcos(d)eh, Adameh Dayoos.
          The most controversial, again thanks to Kiarostami's video montage straight from the inside of today's Iran, is by far the Pizza Ghormeh Sabzi song, or 'Eshghe Sorat'. The obvious foibles of day to day life in Iran, are drizzled like a haiku on the thin crust of consciousness. Too fast to take in all at once, you have to listen to this song like 5 times to get all of the references.

          As in, '…we've got no lunch or dinner, instead we eat yellow cake…' the obvious reference to Iran's current nuclear ambitions.

          Or, '… potato pride, deity democracy…', possibly the general lack of courage to stand up against immoral religious oppression.

          Or, '…smuggling women to Dubai, where are you honorable men?...' a hard cry against the trend in Iranian prostitution of exporting women for consumption in Dubai.

          On this song, a welcome collaboration I was glad to hear, was the inclusion of a guest appearance of another up and coming alternative star, none other than Hamed Nikpay, who flexes his vocal muscle not unlike Sting's appearance on Knofler's 'I want my MTV'. I thought that was very cool to do. Look for a Nikpay review soon.

          Production is far better than the first album 'Adameh Mamooli' (Ordinary Man). Improved tools and software are clearly audible. It is still a largely 'assembled' work, a regrettable result of band mates not being in the same geography, spread across the Pacific Northwest and Canada. I was unsure of Shahrouz Molaei's drums at first, maybe they are a bit too loud, but their quality is high and a great standout. Keyboardist Ardalan Payvar is simply outstanding, taking a fresh and welcome retro approach to licks I thought were juicy and marvelous throughout. The guitar work is as always, masterful. haughty, arrogant, rude, and sad. But you must blindly accept it as your personal Christ and Savior if you are going to appreciate it the way it is intended. Otherwise you're just another numb mildly appreciative cog.

          My only regret is one that I simply cannot regret. Kiosk is an outstanding, highly relevant band. A much needed harbinger of what desperately needs to be sung, screamed actually, by not just one raspy voice and a guitar in San Francisco, but by an entire nation, and if not them, then at least one generation below it. To rage against a machine stench-scented with rose water and esfand, one that is in fact sputtering, as it spews the last of the black and brown toxic smoke of intolerance and injustice. In these last few gasps, at some point we're going to need to decide to go in for the kill and put it out of it's and our misery. Soon, because it is poisoning us all.

          At least that's what I think Arash is saying!

          iran

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          • Rasputin
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2005
            • 63906

            #20
            I finally got the go ahead from Bamahang Productions and modern guitar deity Babak Khiavchi, that the latest album by Kiosk "Eshghe Sorat _amor de la velocidad" (Love of Speed) was finally available on iTunes. A month after the groundbreaking concert at the Great American Music Hall in San Francisco, as one of many fans of this new form of Iranian pop music, I bought the album, and eagerly put it on my iPod so I could listen uninterrupted.

            Of course we've all seen the brilliant YouTube video by Ahmad Kiarostami of the title track, "Eshghe Sorat" (now available with English subtitles), or as I like to call it, the Pizza Ghormeh-Sabzi song! But before we get to that, I think it is important to clarify exactly what the importance of Kiosk is, now that we have a second album to quash that whole one-hit-wonder threat the first album had hanging over it's head.

            First off, the form of the music. Blues, or southern Blues-rock, and it's many variants is a courtesy and gift by legends like BB King, Muddy Waters, Eric Clapton, Mark Knopfler, and Bob Dylan. Second, this form of music is ideal for use in at once embracing and staving off the sweet pain of an inevitable plunge into one's "Badbakhti". So it applies very well to the general situation that founder Arash Sobhani clearly wants us to indulge in.

            On this album, what was tenderly touched on in the first Iranian album, to make you think, is now a blaring Sooreh-Esrafeel, or warning of the real situation inside Iran. You have to really listen (hence an iPod) to the words that are at times whispered with a grizzled voice that sounds a lot like Mark Knofler, post Dire Straits. The form, an obvious homage however, is the perfect vehicle for what Sobhani has to say.

            On "Minboos Sabz" (Green Minibus), he confronts us with the silently ignored situation in Iran describing the daily inhumanity of being stopped by the government in the streets, interrogated, and questioned, and how people in Iran willingly numb themselves to the great indignity of constant surveillance and observation by religiously prude authorities. That the numbing is a choice out of hopeless survival. The clarity of what is normal daily life is what is refreshing and highly informative and imbibes a sense of solidarity in those of us blessed to be Iranians who live free.

            The information, the kind we don't get from friends and relatives, who upon their return from a "vacation" to Iran, conveniently leave off their trip report, or maybe they too have forgotten and become as numb as their local counterparts.

            Small audio touches like mimicking a motorcycle with a guitar when the words mention a "moped, or a 1000 Motorcycle", offer an audio glimpse into a landscape of stark reality and truth. On "Amoo Asdollah" (Uncle Asdollah), you start to hear the same vein of social criticism, only part way through you realize that he is in reality singing an alternate view of the famous Iranian TV Series, "Daie Jan Napelon" (Dear Uncle Napoleon), which ran during the 70's, and is still considered a definitive social critical moment.

            The best song for my money though is "Bitarbiat" (No Manners), a cathartic romp through common street slang and Persian curse words that to my knowledge has never been done on any Iranian pop song. I saw this live and I must say it works very well. As yet another commentary, this time aimed at the pretentiousness of Iranian TV news reporters, who gloss over self-importance with feigned journalistic intent. The sheer glee and release of screaming the un-screamable has me wondering exactly how long it will be before we see more YouTube videos by Tehran school girls driving and singing along in their cars, screaming the fill-in-the-blank parts from car widows carelessly. In case your cursing needs help, they are in order of appearance; Jah-Kesh, Bacheh-*****, Zanikeyeh-*****h, Asabemono-Gahidan, Yeh-Moshti-Coskhol, Mardtikeyeh-Kharcos(d)eh, Adameh Dayoos,

            The most controversial, again thanks to Kiarostami's video montage straight from the inside of today's Iran, is by far the Pizza Ghormeh Sabzi song, or "Eshghe Sorat". The obvious foibles of day to day life in Iran, are drizzled like a haiku on the thin crust of consciousness. Too fast to take in all at once, you have to listen to this song like 5 times to get all of the references.

            As in, "we've got no lunch or dinner, instead we eat yellow cake" the obvious reference to Iran's current nuclear ambitions.

            Or, "potato pride, deity democracy", possibly the general lack of courage to stand up against immoral religious oppression.

            Or, "smuggling women to Dubai, where are you honorable men?..." a hard cry against the trend in Iranian prostitution of exporting women for consumption in Dubai.

            On this song, a welcome collaboration I was glad to hear, was the inclusion of a guest appearance of another up and coming alternative star, none other than Hamed Nikpay, who flexes his vocal muscle not unlike Sting's appearance on Knofler's "I want my MTV". I thought that was very cool to do. Look for a Nikpay review soon.

            Production is far better than the first album "Adameh Mamooli" (Ordinary Man). Improved tools and software are clearly audible. It is still a largely "assembled" work, a regrettable result of band mates not being in the same geography, spread across the Pacific Northwest and Canada. I was unsure of Shahrouz Molaei's drums at first, maybe they are a bit too loud, but their quality is high and a great standout. Keyboardist Ardalan Payvar is simply outstanding, taking a fresh and welcome retro approach to licks I thought were juicy and marvelous throughout. The guitar work is as always, masterful. haughty, arrogant, rude, and sad. But you must blindly accept it as your personal Christ and Savior if you are going to appreciate it the way it is intended. Otherwise you're just another numb mildly appreciative cog.

            My only regret is one that I cannot regret. Kiosk is an outstanding, highly relevant band. A much needed harbinger of what desperately needs to be sung, screamed actually, by not just one raspy voice and a guitar in San Francisco, but by an entire nation, and if not them, then at least one generation below it. To rage against a machine stench-scented with rose water and esfand, one that is in fact sputtering, as it spews the last of the black and brown toxic smoke of intolerance and injustice. In these last few gasps, at some point we're going to need to decide to go in for the kill and put it out of it's and our misery. Soon, because it is poisoning us all.

            At least that's what I think Arash is saying!

            iran

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            • Rasputin
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2005
              • 63906

              #21
              I wasn't about writing anything about this musical issue since I personally believe that non-serious music as a genre does not need any form of criticism and basically what have been written till now have been absolutely non-artistic, commercial and based on very personal experiences.

              But it 's very strange that some people as this band's fans are making such a big deal out these guys which if somebody haven't heard their music will assume the musical geniuses of all time have risen up. Of course this goes to our artistic taste culture which can not be moderate about different levels of art creation. Either someone is a mother-born star or he is the worst piece of trash ever.

              Despite many Persian musicians I as an all time music student think that generally non-serious music composition does not need any form of knowledge and education which obviously needs no further explanation because this genre of music is not based on ,any kind of better to say, academic roots. In my opinion this form of music primarily originates from two important factors which are "small signs of musical creativity" and "lyrics".

              So let's consider (based on my poor logic) that every band or musician who could have become a big hit either had had a creative music or great lyrics. From a musical aspect Kiosk can not even get judged because its melodies basically don't exist, no special harmony texture and very minimal toward polyphony. No special sound effect, no virtuosity and no exceptional orchestration. Arash Sobhani's voice is a typical impression of the late 70's band lead singer Mark Knofler and even the music follows dire straits stereotypes.

              Lyrics can be the only positive point in his work but personally I don't appreciate lyrics which are talking about a social or political issue and end nowhere and have no point because IT IS EASY to create such lyrics which are mostly aimlessly sarcastic and they are basically persian ladies magnet which shows the guy has both the sense of humor and the awareness toward his homeland's social environment.

              Maybe that's the main reason for our attitude toward arts! Attracting other's attention to our unique characters! Maybe that's why either we are a dentist or a technician or an architect we have another part of character which is a musician, a director, a journalist, a movie critic, a photographer, a cook, a composer, a painter, an actor, a sculptor, a music critic, a writer, a historian, a poet and a professional dancer.

              I didn't go to their for the live performance because had an exam same day and also it was not worth $40 for a night of clubbing and getting drunk till you won't be able to hear any music.

              The most amazing part is that some fans are calling their music "original" which whether shows these fans musical memories goes back to prehistoric era or they have problems understanding the word "Orginal".

              The album "Eshghe Sorat" can not be heard more than once and trust after the first song it's ok to turn off the player because there is nothing more to listen to. They all look the same to me!

              So let's face it! Don't want to say it's a piece of trash but they are only a very very average Persian soft rock band which have a long long way to go and don't even deserve the name "musical phenomenon".

              iran

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              • Rasputin
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2005
                • 63906

                #22
                "We’re not Pink Floyd" he says. "Why do they expect us to be Pink Floyd?" Those are words from Arash Sobhani, singer/songwriter of Kiosk, the Iranian rock band that has been making quite a name for itself in the past two years. Since the days I wrote and published the conversation we had on Orkut in November 2005, the band has made a major leap in making itself known to the general public, and quite successfully, I might add. As I also run the Kiosk fan community on Orkut, the release of their second album a few months ago gave me the opportunity to have a second conversation with not only Arash, but also with Babak Khiavchi, head of Bamahang Productions (Kiosk’s record label) and Ahmad Kiarostami, the director of the now famed Eshghe Sorat video. I’ll publish the whole conversation in a few parts after this intro and review. Since the band will begin touring starting tomorrow, the conversation will spread throughout the length of the tour, as it was quite a long one to be published in one go anyway.

                One thing I should mention from the beginning is that in the space of the past two years, Arash and I have become good friends and writing this article came with the difficulties of walking on the thin line of compromising between objectivity and the friendship that has now been established between me and the subject of my piece. After thinking long about the dilemma, I finally decided that I should be Kiosk’s harshest critique if I want to be a good friend and keep my objectivity at the same time. So if at points you feel my review of the album is a bit on the tough side, keep in mind that this has been more an exercise of my own integrity than one at trying to please my audience or Kiosk’s.

                And so why do people think Kiosk should be Pink Floyd? Does anyone actually think Kiosk should be Pink Floyd? Not really. It’s just that everyone is so thrilled at the idea of having an Iranian rock band getting them out of the boredom of Iranian pop that you’ll see all sorts of suggestions popping up on the Kiosk web site. One would say “chapaki lengesh kon” and another “down with shish o hasht” (okay, I’m kidding about those two, but you get the point), but almost all agree that Kiosk sounds like “Dire Estraight”! That’s another thing that pisses Arash off. “Why do they all say we sound like Dire Estraight??” Of course he knows the name of the band is Dire Straits, he grew up listening to it. He even has the deepest admiration for Mark Knopfler and he’s seen him in concert a couple of dozen times. All right, perhaps less. But you get the point. So what is the problem? The problem is that he’s not doing it on purpose! In fact, the real problem is that it’s not exactly the music that’s important with Kiosk. That’s right, you can read and re-read that a few more times. Did anyone ever say how the words in their songs sound like they came out of a Hedayat satire? Well they actually did. Some. At least they were inspired by Hedayat. Did anyone say how Kiosk’s raunchy lyrics are probably the most easily comprehensible and yet true-to-the -point critic of the state of affairs in Iran? Some people did. But not everyone caught the point.

                As a good friend who also contributes to Iranian.com was saying, “it’s not the music. Kiosk is more about the poetry. In fact, it is modern urban poetry if you think about it.” I think he’s right. Kiosk is really more about what’s being said. The music serves as a background at times, as an illustration of the point at others, and as just plain having fun on non-social commentary tracks. I’ll show you what I mean here:

                Eshghe Sorat (listen here)– The most famous song of the album so far, mainly due to the video, which has been viewed close to 300,000 times. It spent a day or two as YouTube’s most linked music video as well. That’s quite a feat, if you think about the number of music videos that get uploaded on YouTube every day. The music on this track diverges quite much from what we heard on the previous album, which generally had a bluesier feel to it. In fact, it sounds like a late seventies disco tune. In reality, it’s a lot like the beginning of this tune from Saturday Night Fever! Why is that? Well listen to the words. The song talks about a country that has become ghorazeh, stuck in the past, perhaps in 1979 (when Saturday Night fever was still hot), but with big ambitions. A country that has a love for speed but only drives a Jian ghorazeh to get there. The music therefore sounds as ghorazeh and outdated as the rest of what’s being described too. Get it? Even the beautiful keyboard solo played by Reza Moghaddas sounds a lot like the one in 1979's Street Life by The Crusaders. I won’t ramble on how the lyrics are great and what have you, that’s already been done. Just listen to them and you won’t need my directions.

                Bitarbiat – All those who have had the misfortune of watching IRIB inside Iran must have felt the urge of strangling one of those TV presenters at least once at some point. Although Babak Khiavchi will say this song is about bad TV everywhere, the allusions to homeland broadcasting are too strong for that argument to go down the throat in one piece. Also listen carefully to the metaphors in there – “kalagh ba sedaye bolbol” – nobody could have painted a better portrait of the you-know-whos/whats in one simple stroke. The music here serves more as a background than as a décor, like on the previous song, but it’s been chosen well. The whole feel of the country/western backdrop evokes the nagging old man who ‘s just ready to take out his do-lool and shoot that damn TV screen any minute!

                Hame Ragham Mojood Ast – Although this one has been written with the problems of our homeland in mind, the theme can be applied anywhere. Oonja hichki sare jash nist, but here neither. It’s just that in Iran, things are worse. This song is the first where we hear the background vocals of Farzaneh Hemmasi, a nice addition to the Kiosk line-up. All that masculine feel present in the songs needed a feminine voice to counter-balance the manliness of Arash’s vocal chords. I know this one is a favorite of many, and they’re probably not that wrong!

                Afsoos – This is more like a personal song lyrics-wise. The beat is all lively but the music doesn’t really match the words. I felt like this one could have benefited from some fine-tuning, also notably on the recording level. Overall, I felt Adame Mamooli was a lot more carefully crafted recording-wise than this album. This is one song where this shows. However…

                Shab Raft - … However, this one’s where all the faulty stuff comes to surface. The song was originally a beautiful bossanova, which eventually got changed into a high-pitch Arash going off on his guitar. Now as high-pitch is not exactly Arash’s forte, I guess he decided to give it a Cohen twist afterwards. But somehow in the last minute a lot of things went wrong, like the guitar sounds out of tune at points, or the beat gives it a slow-train-running feel. Anyway, the song is still nice, but what remains of it on the album leaves much to be desired.

                To Kojaee – Great beat, sounding wittingly or not, like Noir Désir’s “Les écorchés”. The violin comes in at the right moment and does magic. My hat’s off to those who thought of bringing in the fiddle there. This one comes closest to what Arash wanted to sound like when we had our last public conversation, saying he was experimenting with gypsy music. Lyrics-wise though, there’s nothing special, just that the combination of music and lyrics create the needed imagery of the person who has lost his lover and is wandering around, unnerved. It comes with a fantastic video from 2+1 production too. Goodie. My only gripe: The drums would have sounded better like this.

                Kolangee Ghabele Sokoonat – Now if Arash says Kiosk doesn’t have anything to do with Pink Floyd, this is where I beg to differ. The lyrics here are close to what could be described as a mixture of sad Shahre Ghesse or good Hedayat with Pink Floyd (if not as perfect as, say, Nobody Home from The Wall). Not only that, the guitar piece on the bridge is, in my opinion, very close to a good Floyd, although Arash will tell you it’s closer to Camel (see conversation in the next parts of this article). This was by far the most poignant of them all in terms of social commentary to me. If we had fair judges in our culture, this song would probably be hailed as a masterpiece and a classic, both in terms of lyrics and the music. Unfortunately, as we don’t have that structure, at least not yet, it won’t. Listen to it carefully. It’s all in metaphors, and boy, what metaphors. Pink Floyd + Hedayat = Bingo.

                Miniboos Sabz – A typical Kiosk social commentary. Again, the music here serves more as to set the ambiance than to really stand alone. Vahik and Masis will make you laugh, so will the people going home with their mast-o-kalbas-o-chips. People having lived outside Iran will have a harder time relating to this song, as we even had a girl on the community asking where “Vozara” is. Overall one of the better pieces of the album.

                Lalaee Baraye Madarbozorg – Simply a short tender acoustic guitar piece that comes out of nowhere and goes nowhere, but falls in the middle of the album, much like Sting's "St. Agnes And The Burning Train" in the middle of Soul Cages. Dedicated to all the madarbozorgs we’ll never see again.

                iran

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                • Rasputin
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2005
                  • 63906

                  #23
                  Amoo Asdollah – If I had one major complaint about this album, it would be about this song. While Arash was writing the songs for the album, he was calling and e-mailing me, asking me about specific sentences that were said in Daie Jan Napoleon. As the book is like my bible and I carry it anywhere I move to, I always had it ready to search for the specific characters or lines he wanted. However, when I heard the final result, all I wanted to say was “babam hey”. The song is packed with expressions from the book that are jammed together, but which don’t really make much sense in the end. Arash’s vocals don’t help here and the music sounds unrelated too. A miss in my book. Pezeshkzad halalemoon kone.

                  Zoghale Khoob – A hymn-like song that closes the album. Again, social commentary at its best, diverting the listeners’ attention to the plight of our generation in Iran, where Shadi (“Happiness”) falls into depression, Azadeh gets jailed, and Omid dies. Multi-vocal, perfect for mass singing at the concert, and perhaps this was the idea behind creating the song in this form.

                  Kiosk is going on a tour right now, and this will be the perfect opportunity to see the band live. One of the things that amazed me about their sound was that they are a better band live than what can be heard on their album. Whatever was missing there on the record is to be found at the concert, oddly. Usually, it’s the other way around, bands sound better in studio.

                  The other good news about the concerts, at least the one in Toronto on the 8th of September, is that the show will open with music from Barzin. Barzin is an Iranian artist who is virtually unknown to the Iranian crowd, but who has quite a following among the western crowd. I actually love his music and I’m having an online conversation with him as we speak, which will be published after the series on Kiosk. Those who know me, know that I don’t write about music or bands I don’t like and I’m quite picky, so this should already give you an idea about what I think of the musician. His music? Think the quiet side of pop, Air’s “Playground Love” or Chemical Brothers “Asleep From Day”, extremely peaceful and sensual, with meaningful lyrics to further the pleasure. Get a taste of it here for now.

                  iran

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