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Ground prepared for Iran to discuss Iraq with US: Khatami

LONDON (AFP) - The "ground is prepared" for direct talks between Iran and the United States over the situation in war-ravaged Iraq, former Iranian president Mohammad Khatami said on British television.

Khatami also said that he did not think that Iran was intervening militarily in neighbouring Iraq, despite suspicions that the country was arming Shiite insurgents in the south.

Asked whether Iran was prepared to talk directly to the United States about what to do next in Iraq, Khatami told Channel Four: "Through an international activity under the auspicious supervision of the United Nations, I think the ground is prepared to do so."

Khatami was in Britain to receive an honorary degree from the University of St Andrews in Scotland.

He is also set to address the Royal Institute of International Affairs think-tank in London and academics at Oxford University during a three-day visit.

"I am strongly of the opinion that Iran doesn't have any military intervention in Iraq," he told Channel Four.

"The security of Iraq is quite important to us, because anything that would contribute to security in Iraq or add to the violence among the Shiites and Sunnis and instability, the first one that would lose would be Iran of course."

The former president also said that Iran was not developing nuclear weapons, as debate continues over the country's refusal to abide by UN resolutions to stop its uranium enrichment, which it ensures is for peaceful purposes.

"There is no aim and goal to achieve any sort of nuclear weapons," he said, but noted that atomic weapons in the region were a problem, with Israel, India and Pakistan all in the nuclear club.

"Iran does not have nuclear weapon, and does not intend to have such," he insisted.

Khatami faced an angry reception from human rights campaigners, who say that Iranians were detained without trial and tortured during his time in power.

Khatami, seen as a reformist during his 1997-2005 period in office, is the most senior Iranian politician to visit Britain since the 1979 Islamic revolution.

Under his presidency, Iranians experienced some press freedom and social liberties, but his reform plans were often blocked by conservatives.

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Obey UK law, Iran ex-leader urges

UK Muslims should obey British law as well as accepting the obligations of citizenship, the former president of Iran has urged.
Mohammad Khatami, during a three-day visit to Britain, told BBC News the UK was right to fear radicalism.

But it had added to the problem by getting involved in Iraq, he said.

Mr Khatami, the most senior Iranian to visit the UK since the 1979 Islamic revolution, said his mission was to remove barriers between East and West.

His attempts at moderation and reform in Iran were ended by the election of the hard line President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad last year.

But, in an interview with BBC Radio 4's Today programme, he said he was still working to tackle extremism wherever it existed.

'Extremist' Bush

Mr Khatami condemned "insurgent terrorism" in Iraq.

And he also criticised the "extremist" Bush administration.

The former president said his mission was to break down barriers between the great religions and civilisations of East and West.

To that end, Mr Khatami said that, while British Muslims should recognise they had no religious obligation to wear a veil, they also had the right to wear one.

If someone does not share their religion with me, they are definitely respectable and entitled to receive compassion as human beings

Mohammad Khatami


Mixed reception at university

"You are British first," he said - before calling for the Muslim faith to be fully respected in a Christian country.

On Tuesday, Mr Khatami received an honorary degree from the University of St Andrews.

After being met with protests from some students and Iranian exiles, he delivered a lecture in which he talked of a "borderless friendship".

Opponents claim people were tortured, jailed and executed during Mr Khatami's presidency.

His visit to St Andrews provoked fury from human rights organisations and politicians.

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Khatami labels US policy 'a joke'

The former president of Iran, Mohammad Khatami, has branded US attempts to impose Western-style democracy in the Middle East as "a great joke".
Mr Khatami was critical of the US-led military campaigns in Afghanistan and Iraq, which he said had led to more Muslims supporting al-Qaeda.

In a wide-ranging interview with the BBC, Mr Khatami, said he was committed to fighting extremism around the world.

He also called on US and UK to leave Iraq in an effort to reduce violence.

Mr Khatami, the most senior Iranian to visit the UK since 1979, served two terms as Iranian president from 1997 until 2005, when he was replaced by the current leader, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.

Flawed plans

Speaking at Chatham House, a foreign policy think-tank in London, Mr Khatami said Iran was supporting efforts to build strong governments in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Democracy is not something to get exported

Mohammad Khatami


Obey UK laws, Muslims told
But he said the near neighbours of both countries should be in charge of solving the problems of insecurity, and that "foreign alien forces" should leave the region as soon as possible.

"This has been a terrible idea. You know, the Americans are suffering, and you will see the result of this mistake in the upcoming polls in the United States."

The idea that Western-style democracy could be "exported" to the Middle East was flawed from the beginning, Mr Khatami said.

"It's a great joke - the greatest joke that Mr Bush said, that he would like to export democracy to the Middle East.

"Democracy is not something to get exported."

Fighting extremism

During his term in office Mr Khatami was regarded as a reformist leader, whose policies were not always supported by clerics on Iran's ruling Guardian Council.

Mr Khatami now maintains that he aims to tackle extremism wherever it exists, and to break down barriers between the great religions and civilisations of East and West, says the BBC's diplomatic correspondent, James Robbins.

He condemned what he called "insurgent terrorism" in Iraq but also branded the Bush administration extremist.

During the speech he also urged British Muslims to obey UK law, saying they are "British first" and had no religious obligation to wear a scarf or veil.

His visit to the UK has made Mr Khatami the most senior Iranian politician to visit the country since the Islamic Revolution in 1979, but has also sparked protests.

He was forced to enter Chatham House through a side entrance to avoid several hundred demonstrators.

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ادامه توطئه عليه خاتمی
ازترس است يا حسادت؟
فخرالسادات محتشمی پور- روزها






در 8 سال رياست جمهوری آقای خاتمی كه هر 9 روز سهميه حد اقل يك بحران مفروض بود، عادت كرده بوديم كه در آستانه و در طی هر سفر خارجی او كه تماماً مقرون با موفقيت و غرورآفرينی بود، اظهارات و اقدامات نسنجيده و نامربوط و زشت و بد فرجامی كه صرفاً ناشی از حقد و حسد بود را از جانب مخالفانش انتظار بكشيم. او رنج كشيد و ما رنج كشيديم و او صبوری كرد و ما فغان برآورديم و داستان ادامه پيدا كرد تا امروز. آری تا همين امروز كه او ديگر هيچ مسئوليت اجرايی در كشور ندارد؛ اما روح بزرگش او را نه تنها نسبت به كشورش بلكه نسبت به دنيا متعهد و مسئول كرده است. مبتكر گفتگوی تمدن ها را در بحبوحه جنگ طلبی، افزون خواهان نفس پرست به نقاط مختلف دنيا می طلبند و او متواضعانه می رود تا از صلح و دوستی و مهربانی و نوع دوستی بگويد. می رود و افتخار می آفريند، اما بيماری های روحی و نفسانی، گويی بی درمان شده و حسادت ها و كينه ها همچنان باقی است.

لابد شما هم اين روزها خبر هتاكی ها و ياوه سرايی ها در مورد او و خاندانش را، آن هم در همان زادگاهش شنيده ايد! آنچه شنيدم باور نكردم تا اخبار مربوط به واكنش های مردمی در اين ارتباط منتشر شد و عده ای برای انتشار آن اراجيف مجبور به عذرخواهی شدند و عده ای ديگر در مقام توجيه برآمدند كه گوينده نيروی اخراجی سپاه بوده و چه و چه ...

منبع اصلی خبر را پيدا نكردم كه لينك بدهم، ظاهراً از روی سايت مربوطه برداشته شده به دليل ميزان فضاحت و عمق شناعت. اما اصلاً از اين كنكاش ها چه سود؟ مگر مخالفين خاتمی كه در آستانه هر انتخابات برای سياه كردن همه واقعيت ها از هيچ فرومايگی و دنائتی فروگذار نكردند، نيازی به باز شناسی دارند؟ آن چه نياز به باز شناسی دارد روندی است كه طی شده تا كشوری كه حكومت اسلامی دارد اين طور بيمارگونه اسير بداخلاقی های مفرط شود، كه دامنه سرايت آن از حوزه سياست به سرعت به اجتماع كشيده شده است. تا جايی كه امروز از نگاه بعضی همه متهم و مقصر و توطئه گرند، مگر اينكه خلافش ثابت شود .(عنوان اصلی اين مطلب "حقد و حسد" است)

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Khatami urges tolerance, but defends Iran's nuclear program

Former Iranian president Muhammad Khatami called for a new world order based on religious pluralism and tolerance in a series of speeches given in Britain and France over the past week.

Religious and political dialogue between the West and the Islamic world would create an international community "that is closely united in terms of enjoying spirituality, freedom, progress and justice while respecting differences in religious rites and rituals," he told members of the House of Lords in London.

Khatami returned to Teheran Monday following a seven-day European tour that took in three days of meetings of UNESCO in Paris, receiving an honorary degree at St. Andrews University in Scotland, foreign policy addresses at Chatham House in London and at St. Antony's College in Oxford, and meetings with Archbishop of Canterbury Rowan Williams, members of the House of Lords, and the Muslim Council of Britain, and high profile interviews on British television.

Khatami's visit, which was approved earlier this year by then-foreign secretary Jack Straw, elicited protests from Iranian exiles, human rights activists and Jewish groups. A crowd of several hundred demonstrators outside London's Chatham House during his speech at the think tank Wednesday forced him to enter and leave through the backdoor.

The former president's message has come in sharp contrast with the public statements of Iran's current leadership, prompting speculation among academics that his European tour was evidence of friction within the Islamic republic's ruling oligarchy. Other Iran specialists have suggested Khatami's "sweet reasonableness" toward the West was designed to deflect criticism of its nuclear ambitions and foreign policy adventures.

The current president, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, has repeatedly called for the annihilation of Israel and has welcomed a "clash of civilizations" between Iran and the West.

In speeches to the United Nations and at home, Ahmadinejad has said his mission was to prepare the ground for the apocalypse in the form of the return of the Hidden Imam, Muhammad al-Mahdi.

According to Shi'ite belief, the return of the 12th, or Hidden, Imam, will mark the end of history and will culminate in the final battle between good and evil.

The No. 2 man in Teheran's clerical leadership, the president of the Assembly of Experts, Ayatollah Ali Akbar Meshkini, has also called for a confrontation with the West. In September he said the Islamic Republic was the world's only legitimate government and had a duty to extend its sway over the whole earth.

In his speech at St. Andrews University last Tuesday, Khatami sounded a different note, calling for mutual respect and tolerance among religious believers. "If someone does not share their religion with me, they are definitely respectable and entitled to receive compassion as human beings," he said, citing the authority of Imam Ali, whom Shi'ites believe Muhammad appointed the religion's first imam and rightful caliph.

"The call by our imam is clear. He recommends not only tolerance but something beyond that, which he refers to as profound compassion. One can live within the religious, geographical and political borders but they must extend love profusely," Khatami said.

Speaking at St. Antony's College, Oxford, on Friday, he criticized Muslim voices that said "religion and democracy are incompatible." The challenge facing the Muslim world was to "keep pace with this new commodity while preserving its own identity and substance," he said.

He urged British Muslims to be "British first" and "observe the rules and regulations of citizenship."

Citing the controversy in Britain over the wearing of veils, he said, "In a Christian country, for a Muslim women wearing veil and scarf is not an obligation," but a matter of personal choice.

The Archbishop of Canterbury met with Khatami at Lambeth Palace in London and discussed social and spiritual issues common to the two faiths.

Williams said he was "heartened by the support Mr. Khatami expressed for the idea that religious leaders in places of tension and conflict should play a vital role in building confidence and trust between communities."

Khatami, however, did not stray too far from Teheran's line, rejecting US President George W. Bush's call for an Anglo-American-style democracy to be "exported" to the region. "It's a great joke, the greatest joke that Mr. Bush said, that he would like to export democracy to the Middle East. Democracy is not something to get exported," Khatami told a Chatham House audience, but must arise from within the Muslim world's political-theological culture.

He called for the West to moderate its language, saying assertions that "Islam is a major hurdle that stalls democracy" played into the hands of extremists and encouraged Islamist terrorism. "One of the main factors that lead to resistance, extremism and violence taking shape in the Islamic world is the approach and performance of the carriers and agents of [Western] civilization," he said.

In an interview with British television, Khatami said Iran was prepared to talk to the United States about an exit strategy from Iraq, "through an international activity under the auspicious supervision of the United Nations. I think the ground is prepared to do so."

"I am strongly of the opinion that Iran doesn't have any military intervention in Iraq," he said, denying charges it was funding and equipping separatist Shi'ite militias.

"Terrorist are attacking Europeans and Americans and at the same time they're attacking Shi'ites on a larger scale" in Iraq, Khatami said at Chatham House. "We are against terrorist attacks in Iraq." He also said American attempts to end terrorism had been a "great mistake" and its policies had fostered a "new version of terrorism."

Khatami defended Iran's nuclear program, saying, "There is no aim and goal to achieve any sort of nuclear weapons." He added that three of Iran's neighbors, Israel, India and Pakistan, were members of the nuclear club.

He rejected charges that Iran used torture against dissidents. Under the Shah, Khatami said, torture was used against domestic opponents, and it was currently used by the US and Israel.

"If torture is in Iranian prisons then it should be condemned," he said. "I was the first one protesting such kind of behavior" as president. "If I was aware of such kind of behavior I would for sure react."

Last week two Iranian exiles filed a complaint with the London Metropolitan Police alleging they had been unlawfully imprisoned and tortured by the Khatami regime. Under British law, those accused of torture, committed anywhere in the world, can be tried in the UK.

On Monday, the police said it would not be pursuing the case due to a lack of evidence.

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Khatami to attend World Economic Forum in Davos

Former president Mohammad Khatami heads to Davos, Switzerland, on Tuesday to attend the Annual Meeting of the World Economic Forum from January 24-28.
The theme of this year's meeting is "The Shifting Power Equation" that reflects the elements that will shape the global priorities in 2007.



Khatami, a frequent guest, will take part in one Middle East session titled "Enough is Enough." Another on the future of the region includes European Union foreign policy chief Javier Solana.



The lineup for this year's meeting lacks a big-hitter from The White House, but several Bush administration officials and presidential hopefuls will attend. The guest list includes Palestinian leader Mahmoud Abbas, Jordan's King Abdullah II, Lebanese Prime Minister Fouad Siniora and key Shia, Sunni and Kurdish politicians from Iraq.



German Chancellor Angela Merkel will open the five-day meeting in her new role as head of the 27-nation European Union and the Group of Eight industrialized countries, and British Prime Minister Tony Blair will close it, but much of the talk in between will focus on the shift in power away from Europe and the United States to emerging countries in Asia and Latin America.



Previous key U.S. speakers at the forum have included former U.S. President Bill Clinton and First Lady Hillary Clinton, Vice Presidents Al Gore and Dick Cheney and Secretaries of State Madeleine Albright and Colin Powell. Condoleezza Rice, the current secretary, addressed the meeting by satellite link last year.

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DAVOS, Switzerland (Reuters) - Former Iranian President Mohammad Khatami on Thursday called for calm heads to reduce building tensions between the United States and his country over its nuclear program.


"I hope that they would be good enough in managing the situation. We deeply need patience and understanding and not to get too emotional," Khatami said at the World Economic Forum meeting in Davos.

Tehran and Washington have collided head-on over Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's decision last February to resume the country's uranium enrichment program, reversing a more than two-year pause under Khatami's government.

Iran says it needs nuclear power to generate electricity but the West is concerned it is secretly seeking an atom bomb.

In December, the United Nations voted to impose sanctions on Iran's trade in sensitive nuclear materials and technology to try and stop enrichment work that could produce bomb material.

This week, Iran banned 38 International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) inspectors from working in the country. On Tuesday it said it was still cooperating with the U.N. watchdog, which has a pool of about 200 inspectors qualified to check Iranian sites.

Khatami declined to comment on the decision to ban the group of IAEA inspectors, whom diplomats said were all Westerners.

The United States has urged Iran to sit down for talks on its nuclear program or face tougher sanctions if IAEA chief Mohamed ElBaradei tells the Security Council in a report due on February 21 that Tehran is not complying with U.N. demands.

Ahmadinejad has called the U.N. resolution a "piece of torn paper" and vowed to press ahead with the nuclear program.

Khatami also threw his support behind the U.S. Iraq Study Group proposal for the Bush administration to involve Iran in regional talks about the future of Iraq.

"Rather than confrontation, it would be better to cooperate and have dialogue with Iran and Syria," Khatami told reporters after attending a panel discussion on the outlook for Iraq.

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در "داووس"
با رد پيشنهاد خاتمی
شمارش معکوس شروع شد




اخبار مرتبط با ايران، طی روزهای گذشته چون سيل به روی تلکس خبرگزاری ها روان است. حتی بحث های کنفرانس "داووس" نيز زير تاثير رويدادهای ايران و تهديدهای امريکا برای بمباران هسته ای ايران قرار گرفت.

اين وضع به گونه ای ديگر در ايران هم جريان دارد، گرچه زير فشار سانسور خبری، اغلب با تحريف و تعديل اخبار جهانی منتشر می شوند و اخبار داخلی نيز با تزريق تبليغاتی. و اين نکته، يعنی جهت دار کردن خبرها و تبليغاتی کردن آنها از سوی حاکميت جمهوری اسلامی که هدف از آنها ايجاد انحراف در افکار عمومی و بی خبر و يا خوش خيال کردن آنهاست، می تواند به فاجعه ختم شود.

برای مثال هيچکس نمی گويد در کنفرانس داووس چه می گذرد و محمد خاتمی در آنجا چه کرد و چرا رفت و چه گفت؟ درحاليکه مهم ترين هيات ايرانی حاضر در کنفرانس داوود هيات ايرانی است و مهم ترين مذاکرات نيز با خاتمی انجام گرفته است.

در برخی محافل سياسی تهران گفته می شود که شب گذشته محمد خاتمی در اعتراض به حرف های تحريک آميزی که احمدی نژاد در تهران و در سخنرانی مسجد ارک گفته، با تهران تماس گرفته و اطلاع داده است که آخرين اميدها برای قبول طرح جديد ايران توسط حاضر در داووس با اين سخنرانی تبديل به ياس و نااميدی شد.

پيشنهاد جديد ايران که توسط محمد خاتمی در کنفرانس داووس مطرح شده بود عملا رد شده و بدنبال آن انتشار اخبار تهديد آميز عليه ايران شدت گرفته است.

خاتمی با اين پيشنهاد به داووس رفته بود که «بجای بازرسان سازمان انرژی اتمی، يک هيات بازرسی از سوی اعضای پنجگانه شورای امنيت و آلمان (1+5) و يک نماينده از يک کشور اتمی آسيائی، مشخصا "هندوستان" بر کارهای اتمی ايران نظارت کنند وگزارش اين هيات مبنای قضاوت و ارزيابی پيرامون فعاليت های اتمی ايران قرار گيرد. تا تهيه اين گزارش شورای امنيت جلسه آينده خود را به تعويق انداخته و اجرای آخرين قطعنامه را نيز متوقف کند و از تحريم ها بکاهد.»

اين پيشنهاد، بويژه با سخنرانی احمدی نژاد در مسجد ارک تهران با واکنش تند و منفی روبرو شده و حتی به خاتمی گفته اند:« زمان اين پيشنهاد ها گذشته است و شما می خواهيد بين آژانس و شورای امنيت ايجاد اختلاف و انشقاق کنيد و وحدت موجود را بهم بزنيد و طرح های موشکی و اتمی خود را که رئيس جمهورتان در تهران اعلام کرده تا رسيدن به آزمايش اتمی و نابودی اسرائيل و امريکا ادامه بدهيد.»

نماز جمعه هاشمی رفسنجانی که روز گذشته در تهران انجام شد، متاثر از مجموعه اين گزارش ها و همچنين بحث های تند انتخاب رهبر جديد بود. دو موضوعی که می رود تا آينده نظام جمهوری اسلامی را کاملا در ابهام فرو ببرد و به دليل می توان در روزهای آينده منتظر چالش های بسيار جدی در راس هرم حاکميت برای تغيير سياست های کلی و يافتن راه حلی برای اين وضع بود. حتی گفته می شود، در برخی محافل مهم تهران اوضاع را اينگونه ارزيابی کرده اند:« شمارش معکوس را شروع کرده اند!»

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گفتگوی جان کری و خاتمی

در رابطه با مسائل اتمی

تنش بین ایران و امریکا

باید با گفتگو، کاهش یابد




دیدار و مذاکرات محمد خاتمی و جان کری نامزد دمکرات ها در انتخابات ریاست جمهوری امریکا از حزب دمکرات این کشور، روز گذشته مهم ترین خبر خبرگزاری ها درارتباط با ایران بود.

با آنکه گفته می شود خاتمی حامل مسئولیتی برای مذاکرات حساس در کنفرانس داووس نبوده، اما همین دیدار و مذاکره در کنفرانس مذکور و نشانه هائی که در تهران بروز کرده نشان میدهد که اتفاقا سفر او بسیار هم رسمی و با مسئولیت بوده است. شاید واکنش های احمدی نژاد و طیف حامیان او که شمار آنها بسرعت کم شده و به طیف حجتیه و مصباح یزدی و بخشی از فرماندهان ماجراجوی سپاه خلاصه شد نیز خود به نوع دیگری نشان دهنده سفر و مذاکرات خاتمی در داووس باشد.

در تهران، آنچه را که هاشمی رفسنجانی بعنوان "اعتمادی سازی" در طول مذاکرات مطرح کرده است، با گشایش دوباره دروازه های ایران به روی بازرسان سازمان انرژی اتمی شکل عملی به خود گرفت. این گشایش پس از رد پیشنهادی که خاتمی با خود به داووس برده بود آغاز شده است. یعنی رد نظارت نمایندگان 1+5 و هندوستان بر فعالیت های اتمی ایران، که بشدت با آن مخالفت شد و آن را گامی در جهت دور زدن و حذف سازمان انرژی اتمی ارزیابی کردند.

در همین جدال و کشاکش که عملا فعالیت های اتمی ایران را به سوژه ای برای جنگ قدرت در جمهوری اسلامی تبدیل کرده، درعرض 24 ساعت دو خبر پیرامون راه اندازی و راه نیانداختن مرحله نصب 3 هزار "سانتریفوژ" در نظنز منتشر شد؛ که البته خبر منتفی بودن این نصب و ادامه تکامل نطنز بعد از خبر نصب و راه اندازی آن بود!

شاید واکنش تند امریکا و سازمان انرژی اتمی و اتحادیه اروپا نسبت به تکمیل این مرحله از فعالیت های اتمی ایران بود که خبر نصب سانفیوژ ها فورا تکذیب شد.

در ارتباط با مذاکرات خاتمی و جان کری، هیچ خبری از مسائل مورد مذاکره منتشر نشده است، اما باحتمال زیاد دیدگاه حاکم بر این مذاکرات همان باید باشد که خاتمی در سخنرانی خود در "داووس" بیان داشت: «برای دستیابی به نتیجه ای قابل ملاحظه در پرونده اتمی ایران، باید تنش بین آمریکا و ایران کاهش یابد. ما خواستار درک متقابل و دوری جستن از برخورد احساساتی هستیم. گفت و گوی منطقه ای بهتر از رویارویی نظامی با ایران و سوریه است.»


جان كري نیز در سخنرانی خود، با استفاده از کلمات عام در کنفرانس «داووس» گفت: «دولت بوش در توجه و رسيدگي مناسب و كافي به شماري از مسائل مربوط به سياست خارجي شكست خورده است. ما با بحران اعتماد در خاورميانه و به واقع در جهان مواجهيم.»

[Rasputin]

Kerry & Khatami
"World Economic Forum" in Davos, Switzerland, discussing "THE FUTURE OF THE MIDDLE EAST". Various individuals attended, but I included interactions between U.S. Senator John Kerry and Iran's former President Mohammad Khatami, as well as Amr Moussa, the Secretary General of The Arab League. Notice the difference between Kerry and Khatami's approach on the one hand, and Bush and Ahmadinejad on the other.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QT31NpuUkm8&eurl=

[zubin]

non of you guys have an opinion about this

barikalah beshoon i personally think its bravary

you're actually supporting the condemnation of someone who bravely championed reform and human rights in the height of conservative power in Iran?

Wow....

Every single person I've listened to condemn Khatami knew absolutely nothing about Iran and Iranian politics. It's clear to me that these type of people simply like to take out their anger on vulnerable, good people, and, with their excessive political power are the source of all misery in the world.

[zubin]

Can I ask why there is a thumbs down in the title of this section?

[mike435]

you're actually supporting the condemnation of someone who bravely championed reform and human rights in the height of conservative power in Iran?

Wow....

Every single person I've listened to condemn Khatami knew absolutely nothing about Iran and Iranian politics. It's clear to me that these type of people simply like to take out their anger on vulnerable, good people, and, with their excessive political power are the source of all misery in the world.

why not
its acctualy very good it sends a message that you are not invicible

[zubin]

why not
its acctualy very good it sends a message that you are not invicible

You're going to condemn bravery in defense of rights and freedom? I'm sorry, that's ignorant and stupid. There are actual criminals out there in the world that need to be condemned, and condemning someone who fought bravely and hard for rights and freedom - due to ignorance of the issue - is irresponsible, racist and criminal.

I can prove this if you want. If someone who doesn't know shit about Iran condemns an Iranian politician, they are being racist, and that's it. Not appreciated.

[mike435]

You're going to condemn bravery in defense of rights and freedom? I'm sorry, that's ignorant and stupid. There are actual criminals out there in the world that need to be condemned, and condemning someone who fought bravely and hard for rights and freedom - due to ignorance of the issue - is irresponsible, racist and criminal.

I can prove this if you want. If someone who doesn't know shit about Iran condemns an Iranian politician, they are being racist, and that's it. Not appreciated.

listen if these people were able to get this far with a condemnation it means there is some substance to it

but first prove to me how he didnt have anything to do with this group and than we will discuss his bravary

also i think more than anything else it is symbolic of saying that we will persu you out side
but for sure there are alot of other people who deserve this more.