Video of Iranian Missile Test Is Fake, Pentagon Says

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  • Rasputin
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2005
    • 63906

    #1

    Video of Iranian Missile Test Is Fake, Pentagon Says

    WASHINGTON — U.S. military intelligence has determined that a video released by the Iranian government purporting to show a test of a new submarine missile is bogus, three Pentagon officials confirmed.

    The Iranians released the video Aug. 27, one of a series of steps the Tehran government has taken in recent months to display its military potency in the midst of a confrontation with the United States and other Western nations over its nuclear ambitions.

    The test apparently was designed to intimidate Iran's neighbors in the Persian Gulf, including Saudi Arabia and Kuwait, which are U.S. allies and important oil-producing countries, regional experts said. The video showed what appeared to be a successful test of a submarine-fired missile that flies above the water's surface to attack ships.

    But U.S. intelligence officers analyzed the plume of smoke from the missile and determined it matched a video of an earlier Chinese test.

    "It's the identical launch," a Pentagon official said. "The plume, everything, is the same."

    U.S. officials have been unable to confirm whether any test took place during the Iranian exercise. They say they are certain, however, that the video of the purported test is not of an Iranian sub in the Persian Gulf.

    U.S. intelligence agencies have been closely tracking developments in Iran in an attempt to monitor Tehran's efforts to build up its nuclear capabilities as well as its conventional military capacity. The surveillance efforts are part of what experts see as a strategic contest of increasing complexity, with the two nations working to decipher each other's motivations and intentions.

    The purported missile test was announced by Iran's official news agency a day before the video was released and just before an Aug. 31 deadline set by the United Nations for Iran to halt its uranium enrichment.

    The Bush administration is pushing for U.N. sanctions against the country unless it stops enriching uranium. Although Iran, an oil-rich country, says it is solely pursuing civilian power, the U.S. and other countries believe Tehran is intent on building nuclear weapons.

    The test video was broadcast on Iranian state television and picked up around the world, including by CNN and Fox News.

    What has American military officers scratching their heads is why the Iranians would see the need to release a phony video.

    "They have enough things they can do to frighten people, I don't know why they would have to fake something," a senior defense official said. "They are frightening enough as it is without faking things."

    Iran said it was conducting the test as part of a summer war games exercise in the Persian Gulf that began Aug. 19. U.S. military officials believe such exercises are aimed primarily at intimidating gulf countries.

    "It is like when the missiles went through Red Square in front of the Politburo," a military official said. "Their MO is to put on a media blitz."

    The officials asked that their names not be used because the Defense Department had decided not to publicize the discovery. Taking on the role of superpower tattletale could exacerbate already tense relations, or provoke more, real tests.

    The missile was named Sagheb, meaning "penetrating" or "piercing." After the alleged test, Adm. Sajjad Kouchaki, the top Iranian naval commander, said on Iranian television that the weapon was a long-range missile that could be fired from a variety of ships and evade radar.

    (A copy of the Iranian television report, including the video of the missile launch, can be seen at http://www.youtube.com/watchvtvpPAKNlf44.)

    "It is smart," Kouchaki said, according to a BBC transcript. "It has a very high degree of precision, taking the enemy by surprise. The missile has a massive destructive power."

    Pentagon officials said Iran had several Russian Kilo-class submarines, the kind shown in the Chinese video. Iran's growing naval capability is real, said the senior official, which is what made the use of fake video seem particularly "clumsy."

    "They do have a serious military capability," the official said. "They are a growing military problem."

    Wayne White, the former deputy director of the State Department's Middle East intelligence office, called the news of the deception "a scream."

    "I was looking at what they were showing" on the video, White said. "And it was not the kind of thing that would intimidate a military of the capabilities of the United States."

    White argued that Iran wanted to intimidate Saudi Arabia and other gulf countries, saying that if the U.S. tried to destroy Iran's ability to create nuclear weapons, oil tankers in the gulf would be a likely target of an initial Iranian counterattack. And Iran may hope that the threat it poses to U.S. allies in the region is its best chance at pressuring Washington not to attack.

    The video, White said, "is aimed at intimidating the Saudis and the gulf states, to get them to press Washington not to exercise the military option."

    But he said that Iran's recent tactics seem to be self-defeating, only working to increase the perception in Europe that the country is becoming an ever greater world threat.

    And so why highlight a video, so easily determined to be fake?

    "They may not have believed that the inauthenticity would be so easily detected," said John Calabrese, a scholar at the Middle East Institute. "It's an attention-grabber. But it's bizarre."

    iran
  • mike435
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2006
    • 2104

    #2
    depreat times call for despreate meessures

    bichare Islamic Republic a Iran lolololololololololololol


    G-d determines who walks into your life....It is up to you to decide who you let walk away, who you let stay, and who you refuse to let go.


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    • Rasputin
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2005
      • 63906

      #3
      lool Mike .

      Pls don't mix Iran with Islamic Republic !! you must say, Islamic republic Akhounds..

      Iran barayeh ma azizeh va nabayad ghatish kard ba in Khoda nashnas ha !!

      iran

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      • Sepideh_UK
        Senior Member
        • May 2006
        • 2226

        #4
        U Guyz, the Link doesn't work, please do something about it!!!
        Cheerz.


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        • Rasputin
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2005
          • 63906

          #5
          Is working for me !

          iran

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          • Sepideh_UK
            Senior Member
            • May 2006
            • 2226

            #6
            Originally posted by RedWine View Post
            Is working for me !
            Well!!! Not for me !!!

            The page cannot be found

            The page you are looking for might have been removed, had its name changed, or is temporarily unavailable. !!!!

            I'll be grateful if u could plz do something about it!!!!!

            Thanx


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            • Rasputin
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2005
              • 63906

              #7
              Anyway Sepideh jan, you can watch it in Channel 4 ,CNN or Fox !!! is a big news and everybody talk about that !

              iran

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              • Sepideh_UK
                Senior Member
                • May 2006
                • 2226

                #8
                Originally posted by RedWine View Post
                Anyway Sepideh jan, you can watch it in Channel 4 ,CNN or Fox !!! is a big news and everybody talk about that !
                Well i was hoping to watch it from here, if u can't sort it , then....


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                • Rasputin
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2005
                  • 63906

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Sepideh_UK View Post
                  Well i was hoping to watch it from here, if u can't sort it , then....
                  lool.. ok,if i find some way to put the video,i will tell you .

                  iran

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                  • mike435
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2006
                    • 2104

                    #10
                    Originally posted by RedWine View Post
                    lool Mike .

                    Pls don't mix Iran with Islamic Republic !! you must say, Islamic republic Akhounds..

                    Iran barayeh ma azizeh va nabayad ghatish kard ba in Khoda nashnas ha !!
                    right on


                    G-d determines who walks into your life....It is up to you to decide who you let walk away, who you let stay, and who you refuse to let go.


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                    • golgol85
                      Senior Member
                      • Jan 2006
                      • 4957

                      #11
                      this article in and of itself is quite contradictory on its stance. first it goes to say that the video is bogus and a fraud, being copied from one of a chinese missle. if that is the case then the islamic republic is not to be feared, right? a government that uses a phoney video is not "bizzare", its retarded and backwards thinking. I am not surprized that the government would want to scare surrounding countries by reminding them that cooperation with the US would be detrimental to them, but at the same time I would expect that a country like the US would not go on saying that the "They have enough things they can do to frighten people, I don't know why they would have to fake something," a senior defense official said. "They are frightening enough as it is without faking things." if the islamic republic is this frightening, then the US wouldnt be sitting here waiting for them to do as they please. If the islamic republic is all show and no action, then there is nothing to fear. so either the government is to be feared, or its just a whole bunch of hocus pocus "trying" to instill fear. these are two different stances.

                      what if the video is real? I find it hard to believe that with the amount of technological advances and the insanely smart minds in iran that they would send out a video so easily detectable to be a sham. If the video is real and the US is saying it isnt, it makes sense because in a sense the US is helping quell the fears of the countries that are allied with the US in the middle east. regardless, i am not for millitary attack of iran, as i see only innocent civillians getting killed. I would hate to see our beloved iran fall to the hands of the americans as another afghanistan or iraq or even lebanon.

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                      • Rasputin
                        Senior Member
                        • Jan 2005
                        • 63906

                        #12
                        آفتاب:‌ سازمان اطلاعات نظامی آمريکا ادعا کرد نوار ويدئويی که توسط دولت ايران برای نشان دادن آزمايش يک موشک زيردريايی جديد منتشر شده، جعلی است. سه تن از مقامات پنتاگون هم اين خبر را تأييد کرده‌اند. در اين نوار ويدئويی آزمايش موفق يک موشک زيردريايی که مي‌تواند در سطح آب نيز کشتي‌ها را هدف قرار دهد نشان داده شده است، اما مقامات سرويس اطلاعات آمريکا با بررسی دود ناشی از اين موشک ادعا کرده‌اند که اين نوار مربوط به يک آزمايش چينی است که پيشتر انجام شده است.

                        روز 27 اوت (دو هفته پيش) تلويزيون ايران فيلمی از آزمايش يک موشک زيردريايی پخش کرد که توسط ساير شبکه‌های خبری از جمله سي‌ان‌ان و فاکس نيوز در سراسر جهان منتشر شد.

                        روزنامه لس‌آنجلس تايمز، در گزارشی هدفمند ادعا کرده است که هدف از انجام اين آزمايش احتمالاً مرعوب کردن همسايگان ايران در خليج فارس بوده است. از جمله عربستان و کويت که از متحدان آمريکا در منطقه و از بزرگترين توليدکنندگان نفت جهان هستند.

                        مقامات آمريکايی همچنين ادعا کرده‌اند که نتوانسته‌اند مدرکی پيدا کنند که نشان دهند ايراني‌ها اين مانور را انجام داده‌اند. اما مي‌گويند، قطعاً نوار منتشر شده مربوط به آزمايش اين موشک زيردريايی در آب‌های خليج فارس نيست.
                        به گزارش لس‌آنجلس تايمز، فرماندهان نظامی آمريکا از پخش اين نوار تقلبی شگفت‌زده شده‌اند. آنها مي‌گويند، ايران آنقدر سلاح‌های پيشرفته در اختيار دارد که لازم نيست به يک بلوف نظامی متوسل شود.

                        آنها مي‌گويند، که ايران تعدادی زيردريايی از همان نوع که در نوار نشان داده شده، از روسيه خريداری کرده‌اند به نوشته اين گزارش، رشد نيروی دريايی ايران غيرقابل انکار است ولی اين نوار واقعی نيست.

                        iran

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                        • GoorGoor
                          Member
                          • Jul 2006
                          • 262

                          #13
                          Redwine link doesnt work for me... can you check it... or give a new link?


                          بگذاز غمت را فرياد كشم هموطن..تا بداني چه ديوانه وار دوستت مي دارم

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                          • Rasputin
                            Senior Member
                            • Jan 2005
                            • 63906

                            #14
                            Originally posted by GoorGoor View Post
                            Redwine link doesnt work for me... can you check it... or give a new link?
                            The link is removed but i will have another one after couple days . :=)

                            iran

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