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  • #16
    Originally posted by joubin View Post
    How can it not get worse? Ofcourse it can get worse. A nuclear bomb on Iran would be worse for example, but there are many, many more examples of worse.

    I agree with lots of parts of your statement, particularly the reminder that we as Iranians brought about this revolution. But I don't think just any method of demanding change works and I think this is rather important. I might demand change with the condition that robots must become the next leaders, but this might not work in practice and simply cause commotion. The 'what type' of demand is something we as Iranians now need to think about.

    Also, it is hard to say if Shah-time is better than now and this is somewhat of a complex topic, but any case it wasn't a big part of your logic.
    I meant naghze hoghooghe bashar cant get worse in iran than it is right now. Of course things could get worse though in the sense that the US could go to war with iran or as you say an atomic bomb can be dropped on iran. Although i said things cant get worse, i admit even as bad as iran is it can get worse unfortunately. I like to think of things in a positive light, so I would hope that things dont get worse but realistically they can get worse.

    I have no opinion about whether Shah's time was better or not, I wasnt around to have an opinion on this even though I have heard a lot of comparison between the two types of rule in iran. All i can say is Iran needs to change. You are right though in saying that what is demanded is important: the demands need to be logical. I think this is the main problem, we want something that is not possible overnight. It takes time to get things to change, but things can change for the better.

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    • #17
      SAIED,
      Please stop messing with my posts and putting them all together. It is difficult to follow a political argument with all the ideas put in one post. If you want to go mess with posts, go delete the meaningless post of others who post "yeah, i agree" in other threads.

      Thank you,
      golgol

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      • #18
        Originally posted by golgol85 View Post
        I meant naghze hoghooghe bashar cant get worse in iran than it is right now. Of course things could get worse though in the sense that the US could go to war with iran or as you say an atomic bomb can be dropped on iran. Although i said things cant get worse, i admit even as bad as iran is it can get worse unfortunately. I like to think of things in a positive light, so I would hope that things dont get worse but realistically they can get worse.

        I have no opinion about whether Shah's time was better or not, I wasnt around to have an opinion on this even though I have heard a lot of comparison between the two types of rule in iran. All i can say is Iran needs to change. You are right though in saying that what is demanded is important: the demands need to be logical. I think this is the main problem, we want something that is not possible overnight. It takes time to get things to change, but things can change for the better.
        Yes, when you think about it just any demand for change isn't going to work and this is the crux of our problem for change.

        It's great that our arguments have met in the middle in this way and that we learned from each other. I learned a lot from your post regarding our unique individual responsibilities and capabilities for demanding change and hope the objectivity, seriousness and method of such demand gave your argument a flowering touch, though I can see that this was implicit in your argument.
        Take him and cut him out in little stars,
        and he will make the face of heaven so fine,
        that all the world will be in love with night,
        and pay no worship to the garish sun

        - Shakespeare

        "In all intellectual debates, both sides tend to be correct in what they affirm, and wrong in what they deny." - JS Mill

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        • #19
          Originally posted by golgol85 View Post
          SAIED,
          Please stop messing with my posts and putting them all together. It is difficult to follow a political argument with all the ideas put in one post. If you want to go mess with posts, go delete the meaningless post of others who post "yeah, i agree" in other threads.

          Thank you,
          golgol
          akh ke gofti
          it is not yea i agree


          G-d determines who walks into your life....It is up to you to decide who you let walk away, who you let stay, and who you refuse to let go.


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          • #20
            Originally posted by golgol85 View Post
            SAIED,
            Please stop messing with my posts and putting them all together. It is difficult to follow a political argument with all the ideas put in one post. If you want to go mess with posts, go delete the meaningless post of others who post "yeah, i agree" in other threads.

            Thank you,
            golgol
            Originally posted by mike435 View Post
            akh ke gofti
            it is not yea i agree

            USE MULTI QUOTE THIS MESSEGE BOTTOM PLZ MY DEAR FRIENDS
            نه غزه نه لبنان جانم فدای ایران


            صادق هدايت؛ بوف کور

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            • #21
              can you repeat what you said in english? NO NEED FOR ALL CAPS AND RED INK BUDDY! Have a good day

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              • #22
                Originally posted by golgol85 View Post
                can you repeat what you said in english? NO NEED FOR ALL CAPS AND RED INK BUDDY! Have a good day
                you go girl

                vaveila alan dobare privat message migiram


                G-d determines who walks into your life....It is up to you to decide who you let walk away, who you let stay, and who you refuse to let go.


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                • #23
                  Originally posted by mike435 View Post
                  you go girl

                  vaveila alan dobare privat message migiram
                  pesareh golam, vase chi khodeto mindazi to hachal?

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                  • #24
                    looooooooooooooooool that bottom is called " Multi Quote This Message "

                    sardetone ke inghadr milarzin pato biaram?
                    نه غزه نه لبنان جانم فدای ایران


                    صادق هدايت؛ بوف کور

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by donsaeid View Post
                      looooooooooooooooool that bottom is called " Multi Quote This Message "

                      sardetone ke inghadr milarzin pato biaram?
                      I dont see you multiquoting messages, there is no rule in the forum that says we have to put all we want to say in one message. sardam ham nist, i dont care to want to try to figure out what you are babbling about, but you just completely messed up the flow of this thread!

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