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  • Rasputin
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    • Jan 2005
    • 63906

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    Spanish King tells Hugo Chavez to 'shut up'

    President Hugo Chavez of Venezuela received an angry rebuke from the King of Spain when the monarch pointedly told him to "shut up" at a summit of leaders from Latin America, Spain and Portugal.

    Mr Chavez, the outspoken Left-wing leader who called President George W. Bush the "devil" on the floor of the United Nations last year, triggered the exchange by lashing out at the former Spanish prime minister José Maria Aznar."


    Mr Aznar, a conservative who backed the US-led war in Iraq, "is a fascist", Mr Chavez said in a speech to leaders at the Ibero-American summit in Santiago, Chile. The Venezuelan leader added: "Fascists are not human. A snake is more human."

    Spain's current Socialist prime minister, José Luis Rodriguez Zapatero, responded during his own allotted time by urging Mr Chavez to be more diplomatic in his words and to respect other leaders despite political differences.

    "Former prime minister Aznar was democratically elected by the Spanish people and was a legitimate representative of the Spanish people," said Mr Zapatero, eliciting applause from the gathered heads of state.

    Mr Chavez repeatedly tried to interrupt, but his microphone was off. King Juan Carlos, seated next to Mr Zapatero, angrily turned to Mr Chavez and said: "Why don't you shut up?"

    The Venezuelan leader did not immediately respond, but later used time ceded to him by his close ally, President Daniel Ortega of Nicaragua, to answer Mr Zapatero's remarks.

    "I do not offend by telling the truth," he said. "The Venezuelan government reserves the right to respond to any aggression, anywhere, in any space and in any manner."

    The diplomatic spat came on a day when hundreds of protesters marched in Venezuela's capital to call for a "no" vote in a referendum next month that could pave the way for Mr Chavez to stay in power indefinitely.

    The procession in Caracas, organised by various opposition groups, took place amid high tensions following violence in recent days between protesters and pro-Chavez supporters.

    Four students suffered gunshot wounds on Wednesday when an armed group stormed the university campus in Caracas as demonstrators were returning from a protest.

    On Friday, six people - four of them policemen - were wounded by shots in the western town of Merida during another student demonstration.

    University students are in the vanguard of the opposition against the December 2 referendum called by Mr Chavez that proposes 69 constitutional amendments.

    The Venezuelan leader, popular among his country's many poor, is seeking changes to extend his term of office, and allow him to seek re-election as often as he wants.

    Yesterday's march saw a two-mile procession through the streets of the capital led by a lorry blaring out slogans denouncing the referendum and the recent violence.

    Mr Chavez has struck back at the students in particular, calling them "spoiled little brats", and on Friday accusing them of waging a "fascist assault" orchestrated by the United States - a country he has persistently lambasted.

    iran
  • ghalibaf
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    • Oct 2007
    • 154

    #2
    chavez is a good man, another ally againt the emperialistic usa, this attitude against the usa is a growing influence in s.america both the governments and the people.

    the usa is not losing its support in south america
    Vote Mohammad Baqer Ghalibaf

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    • Rasputin
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2005
      • 63906

      #3
      Originally posted by ghalibaf View Post
      chavez is a good man, another ally againt the emperialistic usa, this attitude against the usa is a growing influence in s.america both the governments and the people.

      the usa is not losing its support in south america
      Chavez is NOT a good man !!! is a another latin-american Dictator like Castro !

      He just talks ! blah blah and more blah... Nothing else !

      iran

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      • ghalibaf
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        • Oct 2007
        • 154

        #4
        Originally posted by RedWine View Post
        Chavez is NOT a good man !!! is a another latin-american Dictator like Castro !

        He just talks ! blah blah and more blah... Nothing else !
        care to explain why he is a dictator ( chavez)? because hes against the usa?


        Castro is the best choice for cuba
        Vote Mohammad Baqer Ghalibaf

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        • Rasputin
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2005
          • 63906

          #5
          Originally posted by ghalibaf View Post
          care to explain why he is a dictator ( chavez)? because hes against the usa?


          Castro is the best choice for cuba
          Did you read the last news about him in venezuela ? venezuelan students strikes ?? Go and search for them in Google news.


          I supose you never been in Cuba,isn't it ?? He is in politic for 50 years and is enough now for what he did for cubano ppl !!!

          Is good study and search a lot if somebody wanna give an opinion to somebody else.

          iran

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          • ghalibaf
            Member
            • Oct 2007
            • 154

            #6
            Originally posted by RedWine View Post
            Did you read the last news about him in venezuela ? venezuelan students strikes ?? Go and search for them in Google news.


            I supose you never been in Cuba,isn't it ?? He is in politic for 50 years and is enough now for what he did for cubano ppl !!!

            Is good study and search a lot if somebody wanna give an opinion to somebody else.
            first of all every country has protesters against the government, so dont use that as a example for the whole population. Chavez was democraticly relected this year. You dont need to tell me about castro, i know hes been in power, and currently he is not in power, his brother is. They held cuba independant from the usa all these years, not everyone loves to be the usa's puppet./

            you also need to understand that every puppet leader to the usa has a expiry date, examples, saddam, shah,ngo dinh diem etc, and now musharaff is learning the same thing..
            Vote Mohammad Baqer Ghalibaf

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            • Rasputin
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2005
              • 63906

              #7
              hey... Ghalibaf...You was in South America ? How about Cuba ?..Or Guatemala and Ecuador ? You was there ?

              iran

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              • ghalibaf
                Member
                • Oct 2007
                • 154

                #8
                Originally posted by RedWine View Post
                hey... Ghalibaf...You was in South America ? How about Cuba ?..Or Guatemala and Ecuador ? You was there ?
                were you???
                dont just rely on a few biased articles and mix it with what you like to hear. Reaserch and conclude with a result.

                the fact is that america is loosing support in south america, bolivia, cuba venezuala etc have all turned their backs against the emperialist usa. Currently usa is too busy to even realise what threat is heading their way while they have their hands tied in the wars they have created in the middle east.
                Vote Mohammad Baqer Ghalibaf

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                • mike435
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2006
                  • 2104

                  #9
                  Originally posted by ghalibaf View Post
                  were you???
                  dont just rely on a few biased articles and mix it with what you like to hear. Reaserch and conclude with a result.

                  the fact is that america is loosing support in south america, bolivia, cuba venezuala etc have all turned their backs against the emperialist usa. Currently usa is too busy to even realise what threat is heading their way while they have their hands tied in the wars they have created in the middle east.
                  buddy ver though about coming out of your bubble of fox news irans version which is fars news

                  ever though about lookig at oter sources of information

                  also for anyone to think that any of the southamerican countries should like the US they are very naive and have forgot what the US has done to these countries

                  infact i am surprised they are not angarier than the arab countries


                  G-d determines who walks into your life....It is up to you to decide who you let walk away, who you let stay, and who you refuse to let go.


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                  • Rasputin
                    Senior Member
                    • Jan 2005
                    • 63906

                    #10
                    Originally posted by ghalibaf View Post
                    were you???
                    dont just rely on a few biased articles and mix it with what you like to hear. Reaserch and conclude with a result.

                    the fact is that america is loosing support in south america, bolivia, cuba venezuala etc have all turned their backs against the emperialist usa. Currently usa is too busy to even realise what threat is heading their way while they have their hands tied in the wars they have created in the middle east.

                    2 Things ...

                    1-Is important to know a lot of things about South America if somebody wants to give us an opinion (Knowing to talk spanish and knowing enough about S America's History .)

                    2-My real job in ''Real World'' is ''Politic'' ! But i don't want to participe the political Discussions which we have here,i just MODing here and nothing else.

                    You seems a good person but is good to know very things and stuff for talking about Politic !

                    Thank you for your attention and End of The Subject !

                    iran

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                    • ghalibaf
                      Member
                      • Oct 2007
                      • 154

                      #11
                      Originally posted by RedWine View Post
                      2 Things ...

                      1-Is important to know a lot of things about South America if somebody wants to give us an opinion (Knowing to talk spanish and knowing enough about S America's History .)

                      2-My real job in ''Real World'' is ''Politic'' ! But i don't want to participe the political Discussions which we have here,i just MODing here and nothing else.

                      You seems a good person but is good to know very things and stuff for talking about Politic !

                      Thank you for your attention and End of The Subject !

                      not being able to speak a countries language doesnt mean you dont understand their politics. I could say that you dont know anything about the islamic republic however your debating political propaganda against them..
                      forums are for debating no?, when i know something i always say it, if i dont know it i refrain from debating.
                      end of subject? ok.
                      Ya ali.
                      Vote Mohammad Baqer Ghalibaf

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                      • Rasputin
                        Senior Member
                        • Jan 2005
                        • 63906

                        #12
                        قومی متفکرند اندر ره دین
                        قومي به گمان فتاده در راه يقين
                        مي*ترسم از آنكه بانگ آيد روزي
                        كه ای بيخبران راه نه آ نست و نه اين

                        iran

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                        • Khorsheed
                          Member
                          • Nov 2006
                          • 540

                          #13
                          I have to say I agree with Redwine and Mike.





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                          • Dokhtar Bandari
                            Member
                            • Oct 2007
                            • 1099

                            #14
                            It looks like when you "think" you know something you say it not when you actually know it, have all the facts and can draw an objective point of view. Your muffled arguments in defend of a tyranny and a sorry excuse for a government is flawed by miles and miles.

                            Islam is now praying on South America, because they can and the people are too poor and uneducated to understand or defend themselves. This is typical of Islam. Iranians were busted for posing as Israelis and accused of human trafficking. And your Islamic Republic is protecting them by "ordering" Argentine to release them to Iran...what jokers!

                            One thing is really baffling to me is if you think Islamic Republic of Iran is so wonderful, and USA is so corrupt, why are you here????? why don't you just go and stay there and enjoy all the comfort they provide you with?
                            I would be true, for there are those who trust me;
                            I would be pure, for there are those who care;
                            I would be strong, for there is much to suffer;
                            I would be brave, for there is much to dare.
                            I would be friend of all—the foe—the friendless;
                            I would be giving and forget the gift;
                            I would be humble, for I know my weakness;
                            I would look up and laugh—and love—and lift.
                            Howard Walter

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                            • mike435
                              Senior Member
                              • Aug 2006
                              • 2104

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Dokhtar Bandari View Post
                              I

                              One thing is really baffling to me is if you think Islamic Republic of Iran is so wonderful, and USA is so corrupt, why are you here????? why don't you just go and stay there and enjoy all the comfort they provide you with?

                              oh by far this line is one of the best lines ever
                              i love it

                              but at the same time cartiquing is a way of getting to a better situation

                              also regarding islams spread
                              islam and i am talking about radical islam is flurishing in europe faster than in the us

                              and remeber the europeans are the ones than are constantley appeasing the arab countiries

                              i just see it ironic thats all
                              that the country like us were sopposodly thier is less freedom, their is less hatretrit for it comming form the muslim communuty of

                              just goes to show how deviated the view of america is

                              but this still does not take away from the crimes america commited in south america

                              from pinoche to farm land to other dictators


                              G-d determines who walks into your life....It is up to you to decide who you let walk away, who you let stay, and who you refuse to let go.


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