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  • #46
    you really said it all saeid jaan , as not just a muslim, and not a countryman , but as just A HUMAN 100% i support you and whatever you said in this thread cause there is nothing else to say about it. and to those people who are saying we should think about our own country, i should say try to be a human first then try to save your country.
    and to those people who are saying palestinians did suicide bombing i should say , they DONT HAVE ANY OTHER CHOICE. you would do it too if you see some soldiers just come to your house rape your women and kill em all(Dont Ask me for any freaking evidence) it's a fact.
    just learn this that for Any Action there is a reaction , so do not expect from not just palestinians but from all human being to just stand around or just go to a dead-lying-rutheless show as COURT and claim their rights.


    Man gonaham ine asheghet shodam
    Kheili narahatam az daste khodam
    Ma ke goftim to az eshghe ma sarrri
    Pas chera baz ham dary del mibary
    Boro, Boro, Boro, Boro
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    • #47
      Originally posted by persian_king View Post
      you really said it all saeid jaan , as not just a muslim, and not a countryman , but as just A HUMAN 100% i support you and whatever you said in this thread cause there is nothing else to say about it. and to those people who are saying we should think about our own country, i should say try to be a human first then try to save your country.
      and to those people who are saying palestinians did suicide bombing i should say , they DONT HAVE ANY OTHER CHOICE. you would do it too if you see some soldiers just come to your house rape your women and kill em all(Dont Ask me for any freaking evidence) it's a fact.
      just learn this that for Any Action there is a reaction , so do not expect from not just palestinians but from all human being to just stand around or just go to a dead-lying-rutheless show as COURT and claim their rights.
      for Any Action there is a reaction
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      • #48
        Originally posted by persian_king View Post
        you really said it all saeid jaan , as not just a muslim, and not a countryman , but as just A HUMAN 100% i support you and whatever you said in this thread cause there is nothing else to say about it. and to those people who are saying we should think about our own country, i should say try to be a human first then try to save your country.
        and to those people who are saying palestinians did suicide bombing i should say , they DONT HAVE ANY OTHER CHOICE. you would do it too if you see some soldiers just come to your house rape your women and kill em all(Dont Ask me for any freaking evidence) it's a fact.
        just learn this that for Any Action there is a reaction , so do not expect from not just palestinians but from all human being to just stand around or just go to a dead-lying-rutheless show as COURT and claim their rights.
        !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!THEY DONT HAVE any CHOICE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

        are you kidding me

        just imagin if instead of spendint that money and resource they would bild there who would dare to tell theme what they are doing
        instead they build infirstructure so it improves the life of there people
        they build industry
        school
        are you kidding me
        also remember most sucide bombers are not the despreat oh tragic figures
        they are educated extremist

        how did the first israelis do it
        they built and built and built and they are still building
        they also used terorisom against who british troops not civillians
        wow
        here look how stupid the mentality of the palestinians is

        when israel gave back the gaza strip in the israeli towns they were green houses
        right when israelis go what happens
        thay RAIZE it. they destroy the place

        beutiful temple israelis had left in GAZA israelis go the destroy it
        instead they could have marketed that used as tourist atraction make money of of it.

        DONT SAY THEY DONT HAVE A CHOICE

        and yes israel does raiz palestinian houses it raizes the house of a sucid bomber and frankly why not
        if the family is to take joy in there sons myrtordom and collect money they should also pay the cost. but the sad thing is everytime a sucide bomber blows himself up it hurts the palestinians morre than the israelis

        when a bomb blows up in israel the next week the resturant is back to normal and the shops are open again and life continues in fact i went to one resturant there that had been bombed 3-4 times and it was still packed,
        but for the palestinian its a diffrint story he will face more intense checkpoint more humiliation because he will not be able to walk free around his country and his comunity will see tanks and bulldozers rolling in the street to destroy the house of the terorrist. how sad how unfortinute why should this be the faith of the palestinian who will see this and be inspired to continue with terorisom and distruction.

        and if you say israel doesnt have to that in response to an attack you are wrong
        if they dont have the check points, and if they dont make there presenc there visible more and more attacks will come
        when a woman acts pregnet and is in the abulance crossing the check point but they chek her stomach and see she has a bomb under there instead of a pregnat belly what can you do ....... .

        when i was in israel and there was a threat in benyehuda no acctualy on that day they had foiled one terror attack and arrested the terroris and there was another one according to inteliginse on its way and the beutiy of it was benyehuda street was still packed with tourist and israelis.
        you can not break the will of a people who care about life.

        Dont say they dont have a choice

        also regarding razing of houses in the most remote way i felt it when my apartment in iran was sanctioned by the government to build a road and they destroyed my house i felt bad and i even had this anger towrds the people who were doing it all the while my parents had been reinburst for it and a better house was awating me. so imagin how bad the plastinian feels he feels this way and still is willing to go throgh with it.

        they do have choices they just perfer the after life more than life it self


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        • #49
          mike have you read article above? that was what asked for
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          • #50
            oh yea i read it thanks for posting it
            listen i guss it is an account of an individaul but here are my objections to it

            firts off the israelis care to much for there soldires to just go and kill civilians in a hospital i mean why would you send your best to a hospital. If there intentions were tro kill why not just bomb it. man it makes me sick even thinking of this never happening senario

            also i think they were after targets when they went in the hospital
            before it even surfaced in the news and i heard about it i thoght they were rescuing the kidnaped soldirs but i was wrong

            also how do we we know who is a civilian and who is hezbolla

            hezbolah says they are a resistance army that means civilian by day and resistance fighter by night

            look obviously un called for civilians did die but the hospital insident i mean come on man there is more to it. It was a risky operation to pull it off like that.
            Last edited by mike435; 09-28-2006, 06:24 PM.


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            • #51
              Originally posted by persian_king View Post
              you really said it all saeid jaan , as not just a muslim, and not a countryman , but as just A HUMAN 100% i support you and whatever you said in this thread cause there is nothing else to say about it. and to those people who are saying we should think about our own country, i should say try to be a human first then try to save your country.
              and to those people who are saying palestinians did suicide bombing i should say , they DONT HAVE ANY OTHER CHOICE. you would do it too if you see some soldiers just come to your house rape your women and kill em all(Dont Ask me for any freaking evidence) it's a fact.
              just learn this that for Any Action there is a reaction , so do not expect from not just palestinians but from all human being to just stand around or just go to a dead-lying-rutheless show as COURT and claim their rights.


              G-d determines who walks into your life....It is up to you to decide who you let walk away, who you let stay, and who you refuse to let go.


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              • #52
                Originally posted by mike435 View Post
                oh yea i read it thanks for posting it
                listen i guss it is an account of an individaul but here are my objections to it

                firts off the israelis care to much for there soldires to just go and kill civilians in a hospital i mean why would you send your best to a hospital. If there intentions were tro kill why not just bomb it. man it makes me sick even thinking of this never happening senario

                also i think they were after targets when they went in the hospital
                before it even surfaced in the news and i heard about it i thoght they were rescuing the kidnaped soldirs but i was wrong

                also how do we we know who is a civilian and who is hezbolla

                hezbolah says they are a resistance army that means civilian by day and resistance fighter by night

                look obviously un called for civilians did die but the hospital insident i mean come on man there is more to it. It was a risky operation to pull it off like that.
                Oh my GOD mike!!! Even CNN and FOX (jewish owned channel) said it! and you are refering at it as a never happeing senario???
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                • #53
                  Originally posted by donsaeid View Post
                  Oh my GOD mike!!! Even CNN and FOX (jewish owned channel) said it! and you are refering at it as a never happeing senario???
                  i mean attacking as baseless attack

                  attacking for the sake of killling innocent people
                  their is no reason to that

                  let me clear my bad

                  idf comandos did attack and infiltirate a lebonies hospital but i belive their intentions were diffrnt from what you belive their intentions were.
                  and lets just leav it at that

                  also why do you say these antisemetic comments of jews owning fox or cnn


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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by mike435 View Post
                    i mean attacking as baseless attack

                    attacking for the sake of killling innocent people
                    their is no reason to that

                    let me clear my bad

                    idf comandos did attack and infiltirate a lebonies hospital but i belive their intentions were diffrnt from what you belive their intentions were.
                    and lets just leav it at that

                    also why do you say these antisemetic comments of jews owning fox or cnn
                    OH MY GOD... you sound sometimes not intelligent my friend...

                    Who Owns FOX? 'Rupert Murdoch

                    Warner Bros-Time-AOL CEO? LAWRENCE ***SHBAUM



                    Rest of list of Jewish people in American media

                    MORTIMER ZUCKERMAN, owner of NY Daily News, US News & World Report and chair of the Conference of Presidents of Major Jewish American Organizations, one of the largest pro-Israel lobbying groups.

                    LESLIE MOONVES, president of CBS television, great-nephew of David Ben-Gurion, and co-chair with Norman Ornstein of the Advisory Committee on Public Interest Obligation of Digital TV Producers, appointed by Clinton.

                    JONATHAN MILLER, chair and CEO of AOL division of AOL-Time-Warner

                    NEIL SHAPIRO, president of NBC News

                    JEFF GASPIN, Executive Vice-President, Programming, NBC

                    DAVID WESTIN, president of ABC News

                    SUMNER REDSTONE, CEO of Viacom, "world's biggest media giant" (Economist, 11/23/2) owns Viacom cable, CBS and MTVs all over the world, Blockbuster video rentals and Black Entertainment TV.

                    MICHAEL EISNER, major owner of Walt Disney, Capitol Cities, ABC.

                    RUPERT MURDOCH, Owner Fox TV, New York Post, London Times, News of the World (Jewish mother)

                    MEL KARMAZIN, president of CBS

                    DON HEWITT, Exec. Director, 60 Minutes, CBS

                    JEFF FAGER, Exec. Director, 60 Minutes II. CBS

                    DAVID POLTRACK, Executive Vice-President, Research and Planning, CBS

                    SANDY KRUSHOW, Chair, Fox Entertainment

                    LLOYD BRAUN, Chair, ABC Entertainment

                    BARRY MEYER, chair, Warner Bros.

                    SHERRY LANSING. President of Paramount Communications and Chairman of Paramount Pictures' Motion Picture Group.

                    HARVEY WEINSTEIN, CEO. Miramax Films.

                    BRAD SIEGEL., President, Turner Entertainment.

                    PETER CHERNIN, second in-command at Rupert Murdoch's News. Corp., owner of Fox TV

                    MARTY PERETZ, owner and publisher of the New Republic, which openly identifies itself as pro-Israel. Al Gore credits Marty with being his "mentor."

                    ARTHUR O. SULZBERGER, JR., publisher of the NY Times, the Boston Globe and other publications.

                    WILLIAM SAFIRE, syndicated columnist for the NYT.

                    TOM FRIEDMAN, syndicated columnist for the NYT.

                    CHARLES KRAUTHAMMER, syndicated columnist for the Washington Post. Honored by Honest Reporting.com, website monitoring "anti-Israel media."

                    RICHARD COHEN, syndicated columnist for the Washington Post

                    JEFF JACOBY, syndicated columnist for the Boston Globe

                    NORMAN ORNSTEIN, American Enterprise Inst., regular columnist for USA Today, news analyst for CBS, and co-chair with Leslie Moonves of the Advisory Committee on Public Interest Obligation of Digital TV Producers, appointed by Clinton.

                    ARIE FLEISCHER, Dubya's press secretary.

                    STEPHEN EMERSON, every media outlet's first choice as an expert on domestic terrorism.

                    DAVID SCHNEIDERMAN, owner of the Village Voice and the New Times network of "alternative weeklies."

                    DENNIS LEIBOWITZ, head of Act II Partners, a media hedge fund

                    KENNETH POLLACK, for CIA analysts, director of Saban Center for Middle East Policy, writes op-eds in NY Times, New Yorker

                    BARRY DILLER, chair of USA Interactive, former owner of Universal Entertainment

                    KENNETH ROTH, Executive Director of Human Rights Watch

                    RICHARD LEIBNER, runs the N.S. Bienstock talent agency, which represents 600 news personalities such as Dan Rather, Dianne Sawyer and Bill O'Reilly.

                    TERRY SEMEL, CEO, Yahoo, former chair, Warner Bros.

                    MARK GOLIN, VP and Creative Director, AOL

                    WARREN LIEBERFORD, Pres., Warner Bros. Home Video Div. of AOL- TimeWarner

                    JEFFREY ZUCKER, President of NBC Entertainment

                    JACK MYERS, NBC, chief.NYT 5.14.2

                    SANDY GRUSHOW, chair of Fox Entertainment

                    GAIL BERMAN, president of Fox Entertainment

                    STEPHEN SPIELBERG, co-owner of Dreamworks

                    JEFFREY KATZENBERG, co-owner of Dreamworks

                    DAVID GEFFEN, co-owner of Dreamworks

                    LLYOD BRAUN, chair of ABC Entertainment

                    JORDAN LEVIN, president of Warner Bros. Entertainment

                    MAX MUTCHNICK, co-executive producer of NBC's "Good Morning Miami"

                    DAVID KOHAN, co-executive producer of NBC's "Good Morning Miami"

                    HOWARD STRINGER, chief of Sony Corp. of America

                    AMY PASCAL, chair of Columbia Pictures

                    JOEL KLEIN, chair and CEO of Bertelsmann's American operations

                    ROBERT SILLERMAN, founder of Clear Channel Communications

                    BRIAN GRADEN, president of MTV entertainment

                    IVAN SEIDENBERG, CEO of Verizon Communications

                    WOLF BLITZER, host of CNN's Late Edition

                    LARRY KING, host of Larry King Live

                    TED KOPPEL, host of ABC's Nightline

                    ANDREA KOPPEL, CNN Reporter

                    PAULA ZAHN, CNN Host

                    MIKE WALLACE, Host of CBS, 60 Minutes

                    BARBARA WALTERS, Host, ABC's 20-20

                    MICHAEL LEDEEN, editor of National Review

                    BRUCE NUSSBAUM, editorial page editor, Business Week

                    DONALD GRAHAM, Chair and CEO of Newsweek and Washington Post, son of

                    CATHERINE GRAHAM MEYER, former owner of the Washington Post

                    HOWARD FINEMAN, Chief Political Columnist, Newsweek

                    WILLIAM KRISTOL, Editor, Weekly Standard, Exec. Director
                    Project for a New American Century (PNAC)

                    RON ROSENTHAL, Managing Editor, San Francisco Chronicle

                    PHIL BRONSTEIN, Executive Editor, San Francisco Chronicle,

                    RON OWENS, Talk Show Host, KGO (ABC-Capitol Cities, San Francisco)

                    JOHN ROTHMAN, Talk Show Host, KGO (ABC-Capitol Cities, San Francisco)

                    MICHAEL SAVAGE, Talk Show Host, KFSO (ABC-Capitol Cities, San Francisco) Syndicated in 100 markets

                    MICHAEL MEDVED, Talk Show Host, on 124 AM stations

                    DENNIS PRAGER, Talk Show Host, nationally syndicated from LA. Has Israeli flag on his home page.

                    BEN WATTENBERG, Moderator, PBS Think Tank.

                    ANDREW LACK, president of NBC

                    DANIEL MENAKER, Executive Director, Harper Collins

                    DAVID REMNICK, Editor, The New Yorker

                    NICHOLAS LEHMANN, writer, the New York

                    HENRICK HERTZBERG, Talk of the Town editor, The New Yorker

                    SAMUEL NEWHOUSE JR, and DONALD NEWHOUSE own Newhouse Publications, includes 26 newspapers in 22 cities; the Conde Nast magazine group, includes The New Yorker; Parade, the Sunday newspaper supplement; American City Business Journals, business newspapers published in more than 30 major cities in America; and interests in cable television programming and cable systems serving 1 million homes.

                    DONALD NEWHOUSE, chairman of the board of directors, Associated Press.

                    PETER R KANN, CEO, Wall Street Journal, Barron's

                    RALPH J. & BRIAN ROBERTS, Owners, Comcast-ATT Cable TV.

                    LAWRENCE ***SHBAUM, CEO, AOL-Time Warner Book Group
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                    • #55
                      ah man whatever

                      and your conclution is gonne be jews are taking over and shit like that typical conspiracy well just know not every jewish name is jewish

                      not every jew has the same political idiological agenda

                      also murdaock is a white evangalist but what ever

                      i bet you got your stuff from i dont want to mention it but that how.......


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                      • #56
                        loool

                        i got it from Wikipedia and E! television

                        i didnt said anything about them taking over the world and not about them having zionist ideology! That i what YOU said

                        i dont believe they do have that plan and i dont hope anybody has plans like hitler to take over world
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                        • #57
                          well ok very good

                          because many times when i see people use the language and facts you use then they start coming up with there antisemetic conspiricys saying oh look jews this jews that

                          glad your not like that you really had me worried


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                          • #58
                            you know what mike, you can actually become a good politician, or you are one or at least you sound like one cause all politician when they are been asked for some explaination instead of talk straight, they just talk and talk and talk about everything except the question and they never tell you what you wanna hear.
                            how can u compare jews in concentration camps to palestinians?. oh im sorry i forgot HITLER WAS MUSLIM TOO, who WENT TO ISrael and killed all the jews, oh wait that happened in germany. hmm it's confusing, arent you getting confused too? hitler did attack israel and took thousands and thousands of jews and put them in concentration camps and killed them?
                            wake up there is no such a thing.

                            it's written in Holy Qoran" Muslim WONT Attack any Country,They CANT attack, the only thing they can do is Defend their SOIL and their Families.that's why we didnt go into iraq back then otherwise we could have taken it. and when i said they dont have any other choice i meant they are defending and showing they are out there.
                            you couldnt find any source regarding my assertion cause THERE IS NONE, as Saeid said it earlier ALL US media has been CENSored and being Corrupted by jews community. nobody can or will say anything against jews.
                            i took some classes , whenever my professor was explaining something back then regarding jews done something bad, some of the students would have objection,i dont get it, something happened in the history and you are trying to say it didnt happen? of course in usa colleges and media THEY CHANge ANYTHING THEY WANT AS THEY SAY Alexander GOT DRUNK AND DESTROYED Persepolis , but he just did it because of his Lover (Roxana). now how am i suppose to explain that to my American PHD Art professor? DO NOT TRY to make it in a way to make yourself comfortable, it's not your fault though it's in your culture you ve been raised and told that way, you just dont wanna admit what israel government has done and protecting it without any legimite reason.
                            why do you think my message made you think or in a case made you upset, cause nowadays nobody talks straight in your face and tell you the truth cause they are afraid to say it, but im not.






                            Man gonaham ine asheghet shodam
                            Kheili narahatam az daste khodam
                            Ma ke goftim to az eshghe ma sarrri
                            Pas chera baz ham dary del mibary
                            Boro, Boro, Boro, Boro
                            Boro, Boro, Boro, Boro....

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by mike435 View Post
                              well ok very good

                              because many times when i see people use the language and facts you use then they start coming up with there antisemetic conspiricys saying oh look jews this jews that

                              glad your not like that you really had me worried
                              dont worry about me sekte mikoni hala javabe babato chi bedam jk
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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by persian_king View Post
                                you know what mike, you can actually become a good politician, or you are one or at least you sound like one cause all politician when they are been asked for some explaination instead of talk straight, they just talk and talk and talk about everything except the question and they never tell you what you wanna hear.
                                how can u compare jews in concentration camps to palestinians?. oh im sorry i forgot HITLER WAS MUSLIM TOO, who WENT TO ISrael and killed all the jews, oh wait that happened in germany. hmm it's confusing, arent you getting confused too? hitler did attack israel and took thousands and thousands of jews and put them in concentration camps and killed them?
                                wake up there is no such a thing.

                                it's written in Holy Qoran" Muslim WONT Attack any Country,They CANT attack, the only thing they can do is Defend their SOIL and their Families.that's why we didnt go into iraq back then otherwise we could have taken it. and when i said they dont have any other choice i meant they are defending and showing they are out there.
                                you couldnt find any source regarding my assertion cause THERE IS NONE, as Saeid said it earlier ALL US media has been CENSored and being Corrupted by jews community. nobody can or will say anything against jews.
                                i took some classes , whenever my professor was explaining something back then regarding jews done something bad, some of the students would have objection,i dont get it, something happened in the history and you are trying to say it didnt happen? of course in usa colleges and media THEY CHANge ANYTHING THEY WANT AS THEY SAY Alexander GOT DRUNK AND DESTROYED Persepolis , but he just did it because of his Lover (Roxana). now how am i suppose to explain that to my American PHD Art professor? DO NOT TRY to make it in a way to make yourself comfortable, it's not your fault though it's in your culture you ve been raised and told that way, you just dont wanna admit what israel government has done and protecting it without any legimite reason.
                                why do you think my message made you think or in a case made you upset, cause nowadays nobody talks straight in your face and tell you the truth cause they are afraid to say it, but im not.
                                talking about no source so were did they come from you really want me to expect to belive what people say when majority of people used to belive and some still belive that jews have horns, jews drink chilldren blood, jews control the money suppli, you really expect me to just right off the bat belive what people say. How many times have people twisted or spread rumors just to inflict pain upon the jewish comunity.

                                also when i mentioned jews and palatinians in concentration camps i was trying to say that look
                                palastinians right now are living in extremly bad conditions almost as bad and some places worse than jewish gettos of the ss or other countries. I was trying to say that if people wanted to they can better them selfs in any condition
                                why in the worst ss getos jews still secretly practiced their religion, had schools when there was no hope even had theater and entertainment.

                                palestinians are no less humans it is there culture.

                                also i am sorry if i didnt answer you "straight up" ask your question staright up and i will respond to it in the same manner it was asked

                                look how bad and messed up you think that you are saying media is controlled and is being cruppted by jews antisemetic belife which i am not even gonne get into because it is not even worth it you die beliving this stupid false made to be assumption

                                i love how everyone can blaim the media the same media

                                rightwingers say it is controlled by the libral left
                                libral left says it is controled by religous christian fundimantalist
                                and you say by jews

                                next thing you know algazira is also a concpiracy of the jew.
                                how much i love the world i live in.

                                by the way thanks for the compliment i acctualy do want to become the first
                                persian american politician

                                but hopefully we get a perisna voice in the system much sooner than me because we need it.


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