WHY the facination?

[mike435]

so based on your argumant we can conlude that israel is acctualy only a front line to a mcuh bigger clash say between civilisations

that israel and palastinians are only mere pawns in this global war of ideas
between the east and the west

that acctualy would make sence to me for faciniation obviously you would want to be facinitated with front line first and most

but is their enogh evidance to show that israel and the palastinians are the front line

so than wouldnt that leav room that if it doesnt happen in israel and palstine it would either happen futher into "western teritory" or "closer in to eastern teriroty"

basiclt lets say if no israel and palastinie than maybe the fighting might be in turky becuase than turkey becomes the transition of east and west

than you could also conclude that israel and palastine is really meaning less that their diffrences is just pinned against each other to creat this say call it world order focousing clashas of civilization in one geopolitical are as to save it from spreading

man i am staring to sound like concpiriousy theorist
maybe it is the grey goos

[mike435]

if i may join . . .can someone tell me .. do you think this would ever end. . the fascination ?

well me and ramin it will never end

but it doesnt matter when we first began my only explanation was a comical one of oh ok chosen people lol

but look we have progresed now we have a starting oint of why the faciniation which we didnt have before now we just have to make sure the launching pad is also solid in ideas and objectivity

[Khorsheed]

oh. . i see. .

[zubin]

I never said they were simply the "front line", but interesting take. I provided a clear argument for why they are a major trigger/cause to a clash of civilization. The clash of civilizations doesn't just occur and is not inevitable. I'm saying Israel's behavior is one the biggest factors of it.

I provided a step by step argument, but do not wish to engage in discussion with someone who is so careless as to not read my effortful response and attempt to have a discussion with me.

so based on your argumant we can conlude that israel is acctualy only a front line to a mcuh bigger clash say between civilisations

that israel and palastinians are only mere pawns in this global war of ideas
between the east and the west

that acctualy would make sence to me for faciniation obviously you would want to be facinitated with front line first and most

but is their enogh evidance to show that israel and the palastinians are the front line

so than wouldnt that leav room that if it doesnt happen in israel and palstine it would either happen futher into "western teritory" or "closer in to eastern teriroty"

basiclt lets say if no israel and palastinie than maybe the fighting might be in turky becuase than turkey becomes the transition of east and west

than you could also conclude that israel and palastine is really meaning less that their diffrences is just pinned against each other to creat this say call it world order focousing clashas of civilization in one geopolitical are as to save it from spreading

man i am staring to sound like concpiriousy theorist
maybe it is the grey goos

[mike435]

I never said they were simply the "front line", but interesting take. I provided a clear argument for why they are a major trigger/cause to a clash of civilization. The clash of civilizations doesn't just occur and is not inevitable. I'm saying Israel's behavior is one the biggest factors of it.

I provided a step by step argument, but do not wish to engage in discussion with someone who is so careless as to not read my effortful response and attempt to have a discussion with me.

i didn say you said that i ment you can comclude
i should hace uased one can conlude

but lets be srious
europeans and america have literly enslaved middle eastern economics including the israel

you do not think that should be a bigger triger

occupational forces are right in the back yard of every one of these countries

you do not think that should be a bigger triger

western and european countries are constantly question these countries culturus and way of life directly

you do not think that should be a bigger triger

what israel does nothing close to that
just incursions adn forced influence in the palastinian teritoris
you dont see israeli propaganda trying swayed other arab countries to think a certin way or if theri much much less than the other western powers

you dont see its economy robbing the arab world of its resorces and profating from it

[mike435]

i think we stummbled on a good point that israel is being used as a front for both sides

i dont this israel is a triger but its a pawn

[mike435]

think about it from both sides it makes sence to have israel fighting

westerenrs enjoy it because
keeps wepons selling
for europe forces to arab to deal with europs economy
all the damage they rebuilt and profit off
forces the US to have a reason to station mass amount of military precense in the region
keeps i think spread of radical islam in the region becuase people are too busy with that to wanne spread
the more time you spend fighting the less time you have to advance sociolay

arabs
keeps problems out of their own countrys
keeps peoples with in theri own country busy caring for the palastinian cause
creats unity among arabs
makes the price of arab oil go up to feed the american and european economy
makes the arabs a precios comodity becuase of influence