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  • #16
    one of the victim was a professor called Loganathan hails from Tamil nadu(India). ... his town was some 250km away from the city i live...wat a fateful end...


    If you wish to be loved, show more of your faults than your virtues. - Edward Bulwer-Lytton


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    • #17
      that's what curruption and injustice does to people and innocent victims
      Take him and cut him out in little stars,
      and he will make the face of heaven so fine,
      that all the world will be in love with night,
      and pay no worship to the garish sun

      - Shakespeare

      "In all intellectual debates, both sides tend to be correct in what they affirm, and wrong in what they deny." - JS Mill

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      • #18
        This is F****** Sad!!!!!!!!!

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        • #19
          Originally posted by joubin View Post
          that's what curruption and injustice does to people and innocent victims
          are you talking abot the gunman
          are you really going to make him a victom of socioty or even hint at that
          not everything is the by product of socioty


          G-d determines who walks into your life....It is up to you to decide who you let walk away, who you let stay, and who you refuse to let go.


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          • #20
            It just shows how stupid US society is. With all their wealth and privilege, selfish people roam the whole country and are unable to cope with humanity in everyday life. They neglect and neglect and neglect because of their selfishness and this is what happens.
            Take him and cut him out in little stars,
            and he will make the face of heaven so fine,
            that all the world will be in love with night,
            and pay no worship to the garish sun

            - Shakespeare

            "In all intellectual debates, both sides tend to be correct in what they affirm, and wrong in what they deny." - JS Mill

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            • #21
              Originally posted by joubin View Post
              It just shows how stupid US society is. With all their wealth and privilege, selfish people roam the whole country and are unable to cope with humanity in everyday life. They neglect and neglect and neglect because of their selfishness and this is what happens.
              Everyone is selfish.... ur explanation is vague... if u could explain more.


              If you wish to be loved, show more of your faults than your virtues. - Edward Bulwer-Lytton


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              • #22
                Indian victims as for now.


                G.V. Loganathan

                Minal Panchal


                If you wish to be loved, show more of your faults than your virtues. - Edward Bulwer-Lytton


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                • #23
                  Indian embassy officials have confirmed that 26-year-old Minal Panchal, an Indian student at Virginia Tech University, is dead.

                  Minal, an architecture student had gone missing after Monday's shootout at the university.

                  University authorities have announced two or three hours ago that she was one of the causalities in the shooting, said Prof Kumar Mallikarjuna, Associate Professor, Virginia Tech.

                  The reason they could not confirm Minal was that she did not have an ID. It took them some time to find out who she was. They took the fingerprints and were trying to relate that to the immigration papers, he added.

                  Called 'Minu' by her friends, 26-year-old Minal Panchal went to Our Lady Of Remedy High School in Mumbai and later graduated from the Rizvi college of Architecture in Bandra, Mumbai.

                  Her neighbours remember her as a very bright student who ranked high in the CET exam.

                  She went to Virginia Tech University in August 2006. She was passionate about the environment and architecture and was also fond of reading, sketching, watching movies and spending time with friends.

                  Thousands of well-wishers have logged onto the web and paid their condolences to Minal or her Orkut web page.

                  Minal's father passed away a few years ago and her mother was reportedly visiting her other sister who also lives in the United States.

                  Minal is the second Indian who was killed in the shootout.

                  Indian professor killed

                  Prof GV Loganathan had also lost his life in the deadliest shootout in the US history.

                  The professor was killed while taking a class in mechanics. This was the second classroom that the gunman entered.

                  Professor Loganathan was born in Tamil Nadu's Erode district and taught in the Department of Civil and Environmental Engineering at the Virginia campus.

                  His programme area was environmental and water resources engineering, and he had received many awards for excellence in teaching.

                  An alumnus of IIT-Kanpur, he completed his doctorate at the Purdue University and joined the Virginia Tech University in 1982.

                  In its reaction, the Kanpur IIT has condemned the shootout and held a condolence meeting.

                  IIT-Kanpur Director Sanjay Dhande said that the institute was trying to find out about any students who might be in Virginia.

                  I am deeply shocked to hear about the violence on the Virginia Tech campus. Dr Loganathan was a friend and colleague. I too have taught at Virginia Tech and know the campus, faculty members.

                  He was a simple, modest, family-oriented man who was just doing his duty and was unfortunately caught in the firing and succumbed to injuries. I am saddened and hope his family has the courage to get through this, said Dhande.

                  Family shocked

                  Professor Loganathan's family was in shock upon receiving the news of his death. His parents and two younger brothers find it difficult to believe he's no more.

                  The professor had told them that he was planning to move to India in a year or two.

                  It's a terrible shock. He called two days ago and said that he would come to India in two years, said Kannammal, Mother of Professor G V Loganathan.

                  Professor Loganathan is survived by his wife and two daughters, the elder of whom studies at Virginia Tech University.

                  The family says that the last rites will be conducted in the US, as the professor had wished, and nine of his family members, including his elderly parents, will be travelling to the US.

                  Four of them, including the professor's parents, don't have passports, but the government has assured that won't be a problem.

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                  If you wish to be loved, show more of your faults than your virtues. - Edward Bulwer-Lytton


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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by joubin View Post
                    It just shows how stupid US society is. With all their wealth and privilege, selfish people roam the whole country and are unable to cope with humanity in everyday life. They neglect and neglect and neglect because of their selfishness and this is what happens.
                    You are correct about selfishness and neglect

                    but these shooting arnt happening every day they are not american culture

                    american culture is your right when you are encouraged not to help a homeless because you thinkk everything boils down to money and that it is that homeless own choice to be a homeless.

                    but that hanious act was not an american thing.


                    G-d determines who walks into your life....It is up to you to decide who you let walk away, who you let stay, and who you refuse to let go.


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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by indian_blues View Post
                      Everyone is selfish.... ur explanation is vague... if u could explain more.
                      Everyone is not selfish, that's nonsense. What you mean is that every act has a benefit. The difference is subtle and essential.

                      Its vague for you, but not vague. Neglect and selfishness leave social injustice unsolved on purpose, which naturally and justifiedly many take to heart, with some going nuts.

                      When you are doing injustice and can do something about it, but because of prejudice and selfishness you sustain the injustice, you are guilty of the result.
                      Take him and cut him out in little stars,
                      and he will make the face of heaven so fine,
                      that all the world will be in love with night,
                      and pay no worship to the garish sun

                      - Shakespeare

                      "In all intellectual debates, both sides tend to be correct in what they affirm, and wrong in what they deny." - JS Mill

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                      • #26
                        South Korea shocked by U.S. shooting link

                        South Koreans expressed shock Wednesday, as new details revealed that the Virginia Tech shooter was Cho Seung-Hui, who was born -- and lived for eight years -- in Seoul.

                        President Roh Moo-Hyun held a special meeting with aides Wednesday to discuss the shooting and figure out further steps to ease the situation.

                        The president is expected to make a statement of apology at an event in Seoul Wednesday afternoon. His office has already issued two statements of condolence about the mass killings.
                        On Tuesday, the presidential Blue House issued a condolence statement saying Roh "was shocked beyond description again over the fact that the tragic incident was caused by a South Korean native who has permanent residency" in the U.S., AP reported.

                        Thirty-two people were killed on the Blacksburg, Virginia, campus on Monday, the deadliest shooting in U.S. history.
                        Morning television news programs devoted much of their broadcasts to reports about the shooting and concerns about a backlash against South Koreans in the United States, as well as an adverse affect on U.S.-South Korean relations.

                        South Korean diplomats were traveling to the shooting site, AP reported Foreign Ministry spokesman Cho Hee-yong as saying.

                        South Korean Foreign Minister Song Min-soon sent a letter to U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice Tuesday night, expressing condolences and sympathy for the victims, the ministry said, according to AP.

                        The shootings had already been headline news in the country, which sends more students to the United States than any other country in the world -- more than 90,000, according to the U.S. embassy in Seoul.

                        But many South Koreans woke up Wednesday to the new revelation that the Virginia Tech shooter is in fact South Korean-born and lived in Seoul until he was eight years old.

                        "The Killer is a One-Point-Five Generation Korean," one front-page headline said, a Korean reference to the fact the shooter was a Korean national whose parents took him to the United States to grow up.

                        The Cho family had lived in a basement apartment in a small Seoul neighborhood, one local paper reported. The apartment is known as a "half basement" because it is half-underground and half-above ground and is generally the cheapest apartment in South Korean buildings.

                        A CNN producer went to the apartment in Seoul's Chang-dong neighborhood, discovering a mix of lower-middle class apartments and stores.

                        When Cho Seung-Hui was eight, the family emigrated to the United States because they were having a hard time making a decent living in South Korea, the building owner told the Korean-language paper Chosun Ilbo.

                        "When they went to the U.S., Cho's father said it was difficult living here, and living in a strange place would be better," the building owner was quoted as saying.

                        One Seoul resident told CNN's Sohn Jie-Ae that the South Korea connection was all her bank office was talking about.

                        "I was so surprised when I heard the news, because they first said it was a Chinese citizen," the bank employee said.

                        "It's a tragic incident. But to find out that he is a Korean, I am ashamed and confused," a shipping-company employee said. "I keep asking myself what would have made him do such a thing. It's a very bad day."

                        An editorial in a local newspaper also expressed concern about a possible backlash against Koreans.

                        "Now we find out that the criminal behind the massacre is Korean. It is shocking," said the editorial in Seoul's Hankyoreh newspaper. "But we are also hoping that this incident does not create a reason to discriminate against Koreans or Asians."

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                        • #27
                          Professor: Shooter's writing dripped with anger

                          Long before before Cho Seung-Hui's deadly shooting spree on the Virginia Tech campus, a professor was so concerned about his anger that she took him out of another instructor's class and taught him one-on-one.

                          The former chairwoman of Virginia Tech's English department, Lucinda Roy, said the anger Cho expressed in the fall 2005 creative writing course was palpable if not explicit.

                          Two of Cho's former roommates also described his behavior as unusual, saying that he had spoken of suicide and had stalked three women.
                          Authorities confirmed that Cho had been investigated last year for stalking a woman in person and by e-mail.

                          As disturbing details emerged about the resident alien from South Korea, students gathered by the thousands in the heart of their campus Tuesday night for a candlelight vigil.

                          The students and victims' relatives gathered on Tech's drill field, holding candles aloft against the chilly night. Though the vigil was primarily solemn, students broke out in chants -- "Hokies, Hokies, Hokies" -- in a show unity and determination.

                          Roy, meanwhile, said the writings by Cho, an English major, were disturbing enough that she went to police and other university officials to seek help.
                          "The threats seemed to be underneath the surface," she said. "They were not explicit, and that was the difficulty the police had."

                          His instructor and fellow students also found his behavior in class "inappropriate," Roy said.

                          "He was taking photographs of students without their permission, especially under the desk," she said.

                          But without a clear threat nothing could be done, and Roy made the decision to instruct him away from other students.

                          Police say Cho killed at least 30 people and wounded 17 others before killing himself in Norris Hall, an engineering classroom building, Monday.

                          According to a search warrant, police found a note in Norris Hall containing a bomb threat directed at engineering buildings on the campus.

                          Two other bomb threats received in recent weeks were also being investigated.
                          It's also believed the 23-year-old student killed two other people earlier that day in a dormitory on campus.

                          Virginia Tech Police Chief Wendell Flinchum said ballistics tests show that one of the two guns recovered at Norris Hall was used at the dorm.

                          'Big warning signs'
                          Ian MacFarlane, who said he had class with Cho, called two plays Cho wrote "very graphic" and "extremely disturbing."

                          MacFarlane provided a copy of the writings to AOL, where he is an employee.
                          "It was like something out of a nightmare," MacFarlane wrote in a blog.

                          "We students were talking to each other with serious worry about whether he could be a school shooter."

                          Cho's roommates, who asked to be identified only as Andy and John, said they suspected Cho was responsible when they first heard a description of the gunman.

                          In retrospect, Cho had exhibited "big warning signs," Andy said. But he was so quiet, the roommate said, "he was just like a shadow."

                          Cho spoke of suicide after police investigated his involvement with a female student, Andy said.

                          "I told the cops that. And they took him away to the counseling center for a night or two," the roommate said.

                          Cho paid $571 by credit card for a 9 mm Glock 19 pistol and 50 rounds of ammunition just over a month ago, the owner of Roanoke Firearms told CNN Tuesday.
                          He also used a .22-caliber Walther pistol in the attack, police said. The serial numbers had been filed off of the weapons.

                          Shooter's note
                          Cho did not leave a suicide note, according to Col. Steve Flaherty, superintendent of the Virginia State Police.

                          However, a government official told CNN that a note had been found indicating Cho showed anger against "rich kids." The official also said Cho had a history of mental illness but gave no details.

                          Authorities are still investigating whether Cho had any accomplices in planning or executing Monday's rampage, Flaherty said.

                          Cho, who moved to the United States at age 8, lived at the university's Harper Hall, Flinchum said.

                          "He was a loner, and we're having difficulty finding information about him," said Larry Hincker, associate vice president for university relations.

                          Details, however, were emerging about the victims and acts of heroism during the shooting spree.

                          Liviu Librescu, a 76-year-old engineering professor and Holocaust survivor, was killed while he barricaded his door and allowed his students to climb out of a second-story window, students said.

                          In another classroom, Zach Petkewicz and other students held a table against the door to keep Cho out. Petkewicz said Cho fired shots into the door but struck no one.

                          Student Kevin Sterne, an Eagle Scout, used a cord to tie a tourniquet around his leg after he was shot twice in the thigh. Doctors said he is in stable condition, one of 14 survivors still hospitalized.

                          At least two of those killed -- Erin Peterson and Reema Samaha -- attended Westfield High School in Chantilly, Virginia, where Cho had graduated in 2003.

                          University response questioned
                          Tuesday, after an emotional convocation service on campus attended by President Bush, Virginia Gov. Tim Kaine announced that at the university's request, he was appointing an independent panel to review Monday's tragedy.

                          However, Kaine said he wasn't interested in arguments about gun control.

                          "People who want to take this within 24 hours of the event and make it their political hobby horse to ride, I've got nothing but loathing for them," Kaine said.

                          As questions continued to arise about how police reacted to the first shooting at the dorm, university President Charles Steger defended the response, saying police believed it to be "a domestic fight, perhaps a murder-suicide" contained to one dorm room.

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                              • #30
                                Source: Gunman angry at 'rich kids'

                                The gunman in Monday's massacre at Virginia Tech was Cho Seung-Hui, a 23-year-old senior English major from Centreville, Virginia, Virginia Tech Police Chief Wendell Flinchum said Tuesday.

                                A government official told CNN's Jeanne Meserve that a note has been found indicating Cho showed anger against "rich kids."

                                The official also said Cho had a history of mental illness but gave no details.
                                Cho left a note in his dorm in which he railed against "rich kids," "debauchery" and "deceitful charlatans" on the Virginia Tech campus, The Associated Press reported.

                                The Chicago Tribune, citing unidentified sources, reported that Cho may have been taking medication to combat depression and that his recent behavior was troubling, including setting a fire in a dorm and stalking women.
                                Draft scripts for two plays allegedly written by Cho for a writing class contain "really twisted, macabre violence," according to a student who was in class with him at Virginia Tech.

                                Ian MacFarlane, now an AOL employee, describes the writing as "very graphic" and "extremely disturbing."

                                The writings were provided to CNN by AOL. The employee also wrote a blog to accompany the two scripts.
                                MacFarlane said in the blog that when the class read Cho's work, "it was like something out of a nightmare."

                                "The plays had really twisted, macabre violence that used weapons I wouldn't have even thought of. Before Cho got to class that day, we students were talking to each other with serious worry about whether he could be a school shooter."
                                MacFarlane said Cho was extremely quiet, and efforts by other students to draw him out were rebuffed.

                                Cho took his own life as police closed in on him, according to Col. Steve Flaherty, Virginia State Police superintendent. Thirty other bodies were found in Norris Hall along with Cho, officials said.

                                Two people were killed earlier Monday in a college dormitory.

                                In Washington, State Department spokesman Sean McCormack said that Cho was a legal permanent resident and had a green card. According to the Department of Homeland Security, Cho emigrated from South Korea when he was 8.

                                He lived in a Virginia Tech dormitory, but not in West Ambler Johnston Hall, where the first of Monday's shootings took place, university officials said.

                                On Tuesday, the mail carrier who has been delivering mail to Cho's parents since they moved to the subdivision described his father, Cho Sung-tae, 61, and his mother, Cho Hyang-ai, 51, as "super nice." He said he never met their son.

                                "I only met them [parents] when they were home, and I had packages to deliver to them ... but every time I did see them, they were super nice," Rod Wells said.

                                "It's just breaking my heart," he added. "No parent deserves that."

                                No one was home at the white, two-story townhouse residence Tuesday.

                                Virginia Tech senior Shane Moore said Tuesday he recalled having lunch with Cho three years ago.

                                Moore said his former roommate knew Cho because the two went to the same high school. Moore and his roommate approached Cho and asked if he would like to sit with them. Cho agreed but didn't say a word during lunch.

                                Finally, Moore's roommate cracked a joke and Cho laughed. Moore didn't take offense to Cho's silence.

                                "He just seemed real, real shy," Moore said. "He was quiet, nothing too unusual."

                                Students in one of Cho's classes called him "the question mark kid," classmate Julie Poole told the AP, because Cho used just a question mark for his name on a class sign-in sheet.

                                Fairfax County Schools in Virginia issued a statement Tuesday saying Cho graduated from Westfield High School in Chantilly, Virginia, in 2003. Two of Cho's victims also attended the school. The school's Web site describes it as an "honors" high school.

                                Court records obtained by the AP show Cho got a speeding ticket from Virginia Tech police on April 7. He was cited for going 44 mph in a 25 mph zone, the AP reported, with a court date set for May 23.

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