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  • Dokhtar Bandari
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    • Oct 2007
    • 1099

    #1

    Jihad

    What is Jihad: The Arabic word Jihad is derived from the root word Jahada (struggle). Jihad has come to mean an offensive war to be waged by Muslims against all non-Muslims to convert them to Islam on the pain of death. Jihad is enjoined on all Muslims by the Quran.

    Jihad started in 620 C.E. and has continued right up to 9/11. Jihad is series of Suras and instructions in the abrogated Quran which commands the Muslims to murder the Christians, Jews, Buddhists, Hindus, Bahais, Druze, Ahmediyas and all other non-Muslims in cold blood!

    Since humans do not like harming innocent people (inherit nature), Jihad is nothing but an inducement to murder and plunder non-Muslims for the sheer crime of not believing in Muhammad. It is called a "holy war." Those who return home victoriously, come laden with booty, which includes wealth and non-Muslim women for concubinage and free seduction but those "crusaders" who are killed "in the way of Allah" go straight to paradise where ever-young virgins of exquisite beauty and pretty boys anxiously wait to serve them! Even more stunning is the fact that while every code of moral conduct treats murder, rape, plunder, lechery as sins, Islam counts them as acts of piety.

    "Surely for the God-fearing awaits a place of security gardens and vineyards and maidens with swelling bosoms." (The Tidings: 30)

    "Then, when the sacred months are drawn away, slay the idolaters (The non-Muslims) wherever you find them, and take them, and confine them, and lie in wait for them at every place of ambush" (Repentance, IX: 5)

    "Humiliate the non-Muslims to such an extent that they surrender and pay tribute." ( Repentance IX: 29 )

    After the Arabs of the Arabian peninsula had been subjugated, the Muslims turned on their northern neighbors the Persians and the Byzantines.

    Today when the Mullahs and Ayatollahs rule Iran, we might tend to think that they have always been characteristic of Iran. Not many know that Iran was the first nation that waged a short but bloodied campaign of battles with the Jihadi hounds that were unleashed on an unsuspecting world by Mohammed.

    As they had provoked the pre-Muslim Quraish of Mecca into battle by raiding their caravans, the Muslim Arabs followed the same tradition of raiding the adversary when they turned on their first non-Arab neighbor the Persians. There were no caravans to loot now, since the Muslim Arabs were now dealing with a settled civilization.

    So the Muslim Arabs started attacking the border towns and harassing the civilian Persian population. The people of the border areas along the Euphrates river petitioned the Persian king Yazdjurd (Yazdgard) to save them from the depredations of the Muslim Arabs.

    Iran was the first country that lay blocking the path of these bloodthirsty maniacs who were out to impose their Islamic creed on all those who succumbed to their ruthless march. The Persians (and the Byzantines) were both unfit to defeat the Muslim Arabs, as till then in human history nowhere had a people been worked into a frenzy to go out defeat the adversary and convert the defeated and weak to a creed that imposed the same paranoia of converting still others who were unfortunate and weak to fall before the bloodthirsty Islamic Jihad.

    Till the rise of the murderous creed of Islam, the world had known only imperial conquests, where the conqueror, be he Alexander, Cyrus, Julius Caesar, Hannibal or any other, the war took place between the opposing armies. The fate of the battle was decided on the battlefield alone. The common people, the unarmed civilians were not in danger of a victorious adversary imposing anything more than new taxes and new administrators.

    Islam changed the rules of warfare making the entire civilian population of a defeated adversary, into a victim of tyranny.

    The Muslim Arabs hounds who set their eyes on Persia (and the rest of the world) wanted not just to conquer land and impose new administrators and taxes, but they wanted to impose a creed on the Persians and make them as bloodthirsty in turn, to attack, other parts of the world. Those who fell victim to the swords of the Jihadis could only save their lives by becoming Muslims, and in turn themselves become bloodthirsty.

    Islam was, and still is, a curse on humankind from the word go. At the pain of death, Islam spread like wildfire into Persia, making the Persians also into bloodthirsty wolves like the Muslim Arabs. It was the Persians who a hundred years later were to take this bloodthirsty creed to the Turks and the Turks in turn a few hundred years after that were to attack Byzantine and the Balkans.

    Today the Persians (Iranians) have faint memories of their pre-Islamic past. The glories of Cyrus and Darius, of Pasargade, Persepolis, Ctesiphon, of Zarathushtra, and the Shah-Nameh. The student community is becoming increasingly aware of their pre-Islamic past mainly through the websites on the Internet, that tell the true story of Iran. And this adds fuel to the restlessness of the young among the Iranian population.

    Today, they must realize that the twilight of the Mullahs is the last twilight before the dawn of the post-Islamic Iran. Iranians, need to not only overthrow the Mullah regime, but also discard Islam and return to their pre-Islamic roots.
    I would be true, for there are those who trust me;
    I would be pure, for there are those who care;
    I would be strong, for there is much to suffer;
    I would be brave, for there is much to dare.
    I would be friend of all—the foe—the friendless;
    I would be giving and forget the gift;
    I would be humble, for I know my weakness;
    I would look up and laugh—and love—and lift.
    Howard Walter
  • indian_blues
    Member
    • Aug 2006
    • 1893

    #2
    Originally posted by Dokhtar Bandari View Post
    Iranians, need to not only overthrow the Mullah regime, but also discard Islam and return to their pre-Islamic roots.
    u should have prescribed good sleeping pills too to get these day dreams.
    “I want to feel passion, I want to feel pain. I want to weep at the sound of your name. Come make me laugh, come make me cry... just make me feel alive.”

    If you wish to be loved, show more of your faults than your virtues. - Edward Bulwer-Lytton


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    • mike435
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2006
      • 2104

      #3
      Originally posted by Dokhtar Bandari View Post
      What is Jihad:

      Today, they must realize that the twilight of the Mullahs is the last twilight before the dawn of the post-Islamic Iran. Iranians, need to not only overthrow the Mullah regime, but also discard Islam and return to their pre-Islamic roots.
      you know becuase of the jihad my family has lost cousins and friends

      yet i think this last sentence makes the author an equal of the same twisted jihadist who wants to kill me becuase i am not a muslim

      whats is the diffrence between this author and the jihadist?


      G-d determines who walks into your life....It is up to you to decide who you let walk away, who you let stay, and who you refuse to let go.


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      • mike435
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2006
        • 2104

        #4
        the first qourter is very intresting writing
        jihad is internal struggle


        jubin i am really looking forwared to your respose only the begening of the essay


        G-d determines who walks into your life....It is up to you to decide who you let walk away, who you let stay, and who you refuse to let go.


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        • indian_blues
          Member
          • Aug 2006
          • 1893

          #5
          Originally posted by mike435 View Post
          you know becuase of the jihad my family has lost cousins and friends
          pls accept my condolences.

          but mike when your existence is questioned don't you fight back? I think this same logic maybe applied to jihad, and this was my muslim friends words.
          “I want to feel passion, I want to feel pain. I want to weep at the sound of your name. Come make me laugh, come make me cry... just make me feel alive.”

          If you wish to be loved, show more of your faults than your virtues. - Edward Bulwer-Lytton


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          • mike435
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2006
            • 2104

            #6
            Originally posted by indian_blues View Post
            pls accept my condolences.

            but mike when your existence is questioned don't you fight back? I think this same logic maybe applied to jihad, and this was my muslim friends words.

            but jihad isnt that
            jihad is a sick version of saying if not ith you than kill
            who am i threatining your excistance if i am not mulim and i dont belve in mohamas

            and as far as conserning jihad in fighting back
            that is the biggest b.s ther is
            jihad in that context is the most selfish, cowerdless act i think anyone can do

            jihad is selfish becuase
            it satysfys the person's goal of going to heaven and only the prsons
            99 percent of times both immediete family and community is worse off
            and every time theri is a sucide bomber the palastininas suffer more than the israelis in the longrung,


            G-d determines who walks into your life....It is up to you to decide who you let walk away, who you let stay, and who you refuse to let go.


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            • Dokhtar Bandari
              Member
              • Oct 2007
              • 1099

              #7
              Originally posted by indian_blues View Post
              u should have prescribed good sleeping pills too to get these day dreams.
              Na azizam...I want to make you cry and I want to make you laugh. I want you to weep at the sound of their name and I want you feel the pain. But most of all I want you to be alive and feel the passion of life....
              I would be true, for there are those who trust me;
              I would be pure, for there are those who care;
              I would be strong, for there is much to suffer;
              I would be brave, for there is much to dare.
              I would be friend of all—the foe—the friendless;
              I would be giving and forget the gift;
              I would be humble, for I know my weakness;
              I would look up and laugh—and love—and lift.
              Howard Walter

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              • Dokhtar Bandari
                Member
                • Oct 2007
                • 1099

                #8
                Originally posted by mike435 View Post
                you know becuase of the jihad my family has lost cousins and friends

                yet i think this last sentence makes the author an equal of the same twisted jihadist who wants to kill me becuase i am not a muslim

                whats is the diffrence between this author and the jihadist?
                Mike...what da?????????????? do you think the Jihadist and the author have a same thought streams. Dude put down th pipe and tell me exactley why you say that? Where is the logic in your statement?

                And you ought not to think that Jihadist are only after jews, look they even kill their own in case pf Shiit and Sunnies. No one is safe. The author just want you to know their mentality and give you a glimpse of things to come...and I promise you the author's main concern is Iran at this point of time and how we got where we are.
                I would be true, for there are those who trust me;
                I would be pure, for there are those who care;
                I would be strong, for there is much to suffer;
                I would be brave, for there is much to dare.
                I would be friend of all—the foe—the friendless;
                I would be giving and forget the gift;
                I would be humble, for I know my weakness;
                I would look up and laugh—and love—and lift.
                Howard Walter

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                • mike435
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2006
                  • 2104

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Dokhtar Bandari View Post
                  Mike...what da?????????????? do you think the Jihadist and the author have a same thought streams. Dude put down th pipe and tell me exactley why you say that? Where is the logic in your statement?

                  And you ought not to think that Jihadist are only after jews, look they even kill their own in case pf Shiit and Sunnies. No one is safe. The author just want you to know their mentality and give you a glimpse of things to come...and I promise you the author's main concern is Iran at this point of time and how we got where we are.

                  look who is the author to say that we should get ride of islam
                  that is not right either
                  it is the same logic becuase he is also taking choice away from me
                  it should be up to the individual if he wants to get ride of islam or not get ride of islam
                  the same way it should also be up to the individual to commit jihad or not commite jihad
                  it should be up to me to be x or y

                  and yet their is a limit the limit is as soon as you start hurting socioty whatever you right is should be taken away
                  so immedietly even though you should be able to choose to commite jihad you should not be allowed and nutrulied either by means of education, isolation or even capital punishment
                  and these go for everything that hurt the wellbing of socioty
                  like eraticating a way of life,

                  you see for me the most important thing is the ability to choose
                  i amy not agree with what you choose but i will agree with your right to be able to choose

                  and if anyone whom ever it maybe wants to take that choice away is retarted
                  Last edited by mike435; 11-12-2007, 07:15 PM.


                  G-d determines who walks into your life....It is up to you to decide who you let walk away, who you let stay, and who you refuse to let go.


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                  • indian_blues
                    Member
                    • Aug 2006
                    • 1893

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Dokhtar Bandari View Post
                    Na azizam...I want to make you cry and I want to make you laugh. I want you to weep at the sound of their name and I want you feel the pain. But most of all I want you to be alive and feel the passion of life....
                    aww sweeet.... u kept me mum.
                    “I want to feel passion, I want to feel pain. I want to weep at the sound of your name. Come make me laugh, come make me cry... just make me feel alive.”

                    If you wish to be loved, show more of your faults than your virtues. - Edward Bulwer-Lytton


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                    • indian_blues
                      Member
                      • Aug 2006
                      • 1893

                      #11
                      Originally posted by mike435 View Post
                      every time theri is a sucide bomber the palastininas suffer more than the israelis in the longrung,
                      I believe this is true.

                      An Eye for an Eye leaves us all blind.
                      “I want to feel passion, I want to feel pain. I want to weep at the sound of your name. Come make me laugh, come make me cry... just make me feel alive.”

                      If you wish to be loved, show more of your faults than your virtues. - Edward Bulwer-Lytton


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                      • Dokhtar Bandari
                        Member
                        • Oct 2007
                        • 1099

                        #12
                        Originally posted by indian_blues View Post
                        I believe this is true.

                        An Eye for an Eye leaves us all blind.
                        Herein lies the trouble with the mind of the Man. You saw the word over throw and you immediatley thought of a violent gesture.....did I even say anything like that? Did I say anything about killing? Did I at anytime preach that you should do as they do??? They believe in slaughter for their faith...did I say that you have to slaughter anyone???? I wonder whos mind is the twisted one here and who is struggling internally?
                        I would be true, for there are those who trust me;
                        I would be pure, for there are those who care;
                        I would be strong, for there is much to suffer;
                        I would be brave, for there is much to dare.
                        I would be friend of all—the foe—the friendless;
                        I would be giving and forget the gift;
                        I would be humble, for I know my weakness;
                        I would look up and laugh—and love—and lift.
                        Howard Walter

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                        • indian_blues
                          Member
                          • Aug 2006
                          • 1893

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Dokhtar Bandari View Post
                          Herein lies the trouble with the mind of the Man. You saw the word over throw and you immediatley thought of a violent gesture.....did I even say anything like that? Did I say anything about killing? Did I at anytime preach that you should do as they do??? They believe in slaughter for their faith...did I say that you have to slaughter anyone???? I wonder whos mind is the twisted one here and who is struggling internally?
                          awww azizam chill out, no one was accusing you.
                          “I want to feel passion, I want to feel pain. I want to weep at the sound of your name. Come make me laugh, come make me cry... just make me feel alive.”

                          If you wish to be loved, show more of your faults than your virtues. - Edward Bulwer-Lytton


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                          • Dokhtar Bandari
                            Member
                            • Oct 2007
                            • 1099

                            #14
                            Oh I am sorry...hool shodam...I put the wrong quote...lol

                            That was a reply for Mike (99%) and only 1% for you...lol
                            I would be true, for there are those who trust me;
                            I would be pure, for there are those who care;
                            I would be strong, for there is much to suffer;
                            I would be brave, for there is much to dare.
                            I would be friend of all—the foe—the friendless;
                            I would be giving and forget the gift;
                            I would be humble, for I know my weakness;
                            I would look up and laugh—and love—and lift.
                            Howard Walter

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                            • indian_blues
                              Member
                              • Aug 2006
                              • 1893

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Dokhtar Bandari View Post
                              Herein lies the trouble with the mind of the Man.
                              generalized here.... anyways if u loose someone u go haywire isn't? don't take anything personally.
                              “I want to feel passion, I want to feel pain. I want to weep at the sound of your name. Come make me laugh, come make me cry... just make me feel alive.”

                              If you wish to be loved, show more of your faults than your virtues. - Edward Bulwer-Lytton


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