What Is Your Religion ?

[konica]

Islam didnt come to make our lives difficult, but to make it simpler. It came to show us moderation, yet we "muslims" make islam hard on ourselves.

[Inquisitor]

Muslim, a Shia fundamentalist in its purest form

[Inquisitor]

I wanted to say I am muslim.. then i thought I have to clean my hands and face from what fundamentalists do, I get sick and tired of each time setting a parantesis infront of my religios existance to express myself. How can i digest putting a defnceless woman in a Gooni and stone her to dead? even animals don't do that.

Do you know what does fundamentalism mean ? If you knew the correct definition, you wouldn't use that word.

Wassalam

[Borzo]

با دورد و سلام
من بهائی هستم و مطالبی را که دوستان در این جستار یا تاپیک نوشته اند را با علاقه خواندم. با اجازهء شما میخواستم به چند مطلب اشاره کنم. هستند در میان هم میهنان گرامیم که اطلاع کافی از دیانت بهائی ندارند و شوربختانه با تبلیغات منفی ای که در باره این دیانت، در کشورمان ایران، در طول بیش از 160 سال شده است؛ شکستن بعضی از دیوارها و موانع را برای شناسایی حقیقت این دین سخت تر مینماید، اما غیر ممکن نیست. برای از بین بردن این موانع می بایستی من و شما بهتر با عقاید یکدیگر آشنا شویم. دیانت بهائی هیچگاه عقیده و آرمان خود را بر کسی تحمیل نکرده است ولی از انسانها میخواهد که دست کم با این آرمانها آشنا شوید و اگر مقبول افتاد به کار بندند، نیازی به بهائی شدن نیست همان که بدانند این الگوها برای سعادت بشر وجود دارد کافی است. این در عمل هم تجربه شده است؛ تأثیری که ظهور باب و ادیان بابی و بعد از آن بهائی بر روی افکار جامعهء ایران در برپایی نهضت مشروطه داشتند، انکارناپذیر است.

با سپاس

[mike435]

Do you know what does fundamentalism mean ? If you knew the correct definition, you wouldn't use that word.

Wassalam

take the oppertunity and clarify
i definitly can use it

[Inquisitor]

take the oppertunity and clarify
i definitly can use it

You are neither a scholar nor an high school graduate yet, therefore I do not care what you want to call someone/something that you have no clue of, because it is not academic.

Tell me what is your definition of Fundamentalist and I will give you mine

[mike435]

You are neither a scholar nor an high school graduate yet, therefore I do not care what you want to call someone/something that you have no clue of, because it is not academic.

Tell me what is your definition of Fundamentalist and I will give you mine

based on experiance excluding you

people who only see Islam as the true religion, there fore they fallow it word for word (nothing wrong with that)

they live there life by it (ggreat do what you want to do ) but all the while they belive it so much that they will , and wont leave room for anything else to exist simultaneously(not with in islam but outside of there scope) and they take away individual thinking willing to ruin older traditions just so there truth prevails more importantly believes its ok to denounce others beliefs and change the host culture when they arrive
best example i think is Iran
the more i read about it the more i see how this country changed and is changing becuase of a minority(who know maybe a majority) that is fundamentalist and is trying to steer the country towards it
but on a huge scale i think fundamentalist have the who world as there playground becuase they belive that alah and his messenger is the truth and the world should be enlightened and live the true life

please when you answer me try to use an agnostic point of view even though probably for a fundamentalist is impossible

[mike435]

You are neither a scholar nor an high school graduate yet, therefore I do not care what you want to call someone/something that you have no clue of, because it is not academic.

boro baba get off your high horse hala khodet ki hasti ya agar kasi hasti enghadar bayad menato soorat mali bash bokoni

bezarbegam to ehtemalan 2-3 danashga rafti oonfaght hala khodeto dari mikoshi

kojast in humble boodanet mage fundemental nisiti fekardam adam bayad humble bashe

agar nemifahmi vasat englisi minevesiam

[Inquisitor]

Looks like you don't know the difference between fundamentalist and extremists. Do not trust anything that you hear from Fox news.

Scholars refuse to accept the definition provided by most people regarding the term “fundamentalism” they mostly overlook the philosophical depth of the concept.

All humans are fundamentalists. Although they don’t say it, in truth a system is established or perceived upon a foundation, a base if you like. The base of what we believe is supposed to be very strong to support the weight of our arguments. Usually we take this foundation as undisputable facts or the truth, something that can’t be argued with. Otherwise our arguments would be weak and collapsible. Indeed some take their logic as their foundation; some take existence as their foundation and so forth…

It is to believe and practice an ideology based on a certain foundation! However it is important to note that many ideologies or systems are based on multiple foundations, not just one.

Islamic fundamentalism is probably the only ideology truly based on one foundation. In fact any Moslem who is not a fundamentalist is effectively saying that religion of Islam fails to address certain issues, and therefore he has failed to understand the universal aspect of the religion.

Example:
1- Al Qaeda is an extremist group. (Efratgarayi) افراط گرايي
2- Lebanese Hezballah are Fundamentalist (bonyadgarayi) بنيادگرايي

based on experiance excluding you

people who only see Islam as the true religion, there fore they fallow it word for word (nothing wrong with that)

they live there life by it (ggreat do what you want to do ) but all the while they belive it so much that they will , and wont leave room for anything else to exist simultaneously(not with in islam but outside of there scope) and they take away individual thinking willing to ruin older traditions just so there truth prevails more importantly believes its ok to denounce others beliefs and change the host culture when they arrive
best example i think is Iran
the more i read about it the more i see how this country changed and is changing becuase of a minority(who know maybe a majority) that is fundamentalist and is trying to steer the country towards it
but on a huge scale i think fundamentalist have the who world as there playground becuase they belive that alah and his messenger is the truth and the world should be enlightened and live the true life

please when you answer me try to use an agnostic point of view even though probably for a fundamentalist is impossible

[Inquisitor]

boro baba get off your high horse hala khodet ki hasti ya agar kasi hasti enghadar bayad menato soorat mali bash bokoni

This is what I said:

You are neither a scholar nor an high school graduate yet, therefore I do not care what you want to call someone/something that you have no clue of, because it is not academic.

Chizi joz Haghighat nagoftam.

bezarbegam to ehtemalan 2-3 danashga rafti oonfaght hala khodeto dari mikoshi

kojast in humble boodanet mage fundemental nisiti fekardam adam bayad humble bashe

Read Surat al Anfal, ( Holy Quran chapter 8 ), you will get my answer.

agar nemifahmi vasat englisi minevesiam

Your Farsi is much better than your English. Har jour keh Salah midani ( Farsi, ingilisi, arabi, torki ).

Wassalam

[mike435]

2- Lebanese Hezballah are Fundamentalist (bonyadgarayi) بنيادگرايي

lol tell me your kidding right
hezbolah is fundamatalist lolololololol

vaveyla agar fundamatalist hezbolah bashe fateh hamayema khoondast

hazaram islamic republic fundamatalist bashe ta hezbolah
please dont repeat that again just when i was comming to accept that no fundamatalist are peac loving qoran obaying people, you drop this bobmshell that it is hezbolah

[Inquisitor]

They are indeed party of Allah (swt). They are defender of Islam and Lebanon.

We defend the oppressed and fight the oppressor, To you we are demons and to us Zionists are demons and we’re going to smite one another, remember that death comes for us all and justice awaits us next, all I can say is that stick with what you believe is the truth, we do the same, in the end only the truth remains.


“If they really believe in God let them express their desire for death!”

Wassalam

lol tell me your kidding right
hezbolah is fundamatalist lolololololol

vaveyla agar fundamatalist hezbolah bashe fateh hamayema khoondast

hazaram islamic republic fundamatalist bashe ta hezbolah
please dont repeat that again just when i was comming to accept that no fundamatalist are peac loving qoran obaying people, you drop this bobmshell that it is hezbolah

[mike435]

OMG i cant belive what you are saying
when i watch the news i allways say these people dont excist it is right wing neo con propeganda OMG
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how can you consider the group g-dly when it kills innocent people
g-d is good, reason for creation is g-d expression of loving and kidness
how can hezbolah be this when it kills so easily so offencivly
what do you call the AMIA Bombing were 85 were murdured
what do you call starting a rocket attack with israel and sending thousands of rockets filled with ballbaring at civillian sites delibretly soly to kill
what do you say when these rockets were desighnd so even if they miss a target the ball baring shooting out kill the people around it
how can you consider this group g-dly when it considers a mission is a success when innocent civillian are killed inside there shelters or home
how do you consider this g-dly, good, holy ,

[Inquisitor]

Write it in an organized paragraph or Farsi.

OMG i cant belive what you are saying
when i watch the news i allways say these people dont excist it is right wing neo con propeganda OMG
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how can you consider the group g-dly when it kills innocent people
g-d is good, reason for creation is g-d expression of loving and kidness
how can hezbolah be this when it kills so easily so offencivly
what do you call the AMIA Bombing were 85 were murdured
what do you call starting a rocket attack with israel and sending thousands of rockets filled with ballbaring at civillian sites delibretly soly to kill
what do you say when these rockets were desighnd so even if they miss a target the ball baring shooting out kill the people around it
how can you consider this group g-dly when it considers a mission is a success when innocent civillian are killed inside there shelters or home
how do you consider this g-dly, good, holy ,

There is a good idiom in British literature that says: "The pot calling the kettle black"

[mike435]

if your online stick around i will post in a few minutes