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if you actually tend to the needs of the governmental workers, regardless of what level of power they are at, then you dont have to worry about corruption. I am sorry ke bahsam ro yek kam ghati vati kardam. kolan harfe man ine ke har no komaki khoobe ba in tabsareh ke bayad natije bedeh komaka. fayde nadareh ke komak beshe az har manbaei, che dolati che az adamaye khaayer. agar pooli ke dade mishe be hich kare mosbati estefade nasheh, engar ke oon pool naboodeh.
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A good test for whether a solution works or not is whether it can be proposed to someone looking to help. If someone really wants to help Iran, what route would you give them? I already mentioned that private donation does not give any guarantees for the long run, and it is society that must be aware. My question is now what we can help society help itself. That's all.Take him and cut him out in little stars,
and he will make the face of heaven so fine,
that all the world will be in love with night,
and pay no worship to the garish sun
- Shakespeare
"In all intellectual debates, both sides tend to be correct in what they affirm, and wrong in what they deny." - JS MillComment
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I think private donations can never be part or full solution for educational institution... it may help but it cannot give salvation.
In India we have more private schools than government or govt aided schools.... wat abt in Iran? ...here lower class and lower middle class people childrens are sent to govt schools coz they can't afford the money private schools demand and in govt schools lack in everything like infrastructure, teaching, sanity etc. The rich - poor divide starts from education itself here. Even uneducated parents kids are not admitted into schools here. Education is a big business here....
im sorry if im offtopic. just registering my thoughts....
If you wish to be loved, show more of your faults than your virtues. - Edward Bulwer-Lytton
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no... you see, that's what I think the problem with the proposed solution is... I want to be clear: private donations are necessary. But they are very, very incomplete. They are immediate, but weak, and without any guarantee.
The question of a solution must focus on society (not only government), and how society and government can in conjunction start to attend to these issues so that, in combination with private donations, problems are actually solved.
On a practical point of view, most people won't donate unless there is social attention and guarantee towards the solution...
In Iran, there is a debate on this in government, and both perspectives are there. But again, it is a social issue as well that must work in conjunctions with government and private donations to solve the problem.Take him and cut him out in little stars,
and he will make the face of heaven so fine,
that all the world will be in love with night,
and pay no worship to the garish sun
- Shakespeare
"In all intellectual debates, both sides tend to be correct in what they affirm, and wrong in what they deny." - JS MillComment
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Iran's society for the most part recognizes the importance of education, but I am sure there are still plenty of people who might not see the significant role education plays in shaping the people of a country. So with that in mind, I would try emphasizing the importance of education for all citizens. Education is a means to enlighten and as such a safe learning environment should be provided. It would be nice if those of us out of Iran would help with private donations, but there are plenty of those who are well off in Iran who could help as well.
Private donations come from those who are in some way linked to the society, and although I see tham as different entities (the donators and society), I do see them as being connected, especially when there is a common goal in mind. As for a guarantee, nothing is guaranteed but as I mentioned before people want to see results and if they dont see them, they lose interest in helping. Here the job of the government becomes to show the donators and society that results are being accomplished.Last edited by golgol85; 02-09-2007, 12:59 PM.Comment
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Education sounds beautiful, but what do you mean by education?Take him and cut him out in little stars,
and he will make the face of heaven so fine,
that all the world will be in love with night,
and pay no worship to the garish sun
- Shakespeare
"In all intellectual debates, both sides tend to be correct in what they affirm, and wrong in what they deny." - JS MillComment
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Iran does great in education after war! Nehzate savad amozi is one of them! and more and more getting university degrees but for what use? to drive a taxi?
we need to deal with corruption, make jobs and attract investment!نه غزه نه لبنان جانم فدای ایران
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you need to put fundamental romatic ambitions aside
you need to embrace the new world order of globalization and free trade
you need to modernize your relationships and accept that you are part of the world economy, and theater
and stop being so stuburn
iran is a mini america in every sence
location, natural reourcas, history, culture, diversity, human capital, .................
all being waisted because it cares more about fundamental and Islamic principles than iit does about the new world order,
all going to waste becuase we cant seperate faith from reality
its stars with madrese dar atash and soon if not reborn and reformed you might have to change the name of the thread to country dar attash.
zendebad a free and secular iran whit an islamic accent or tone
G-d determines who walks into your life....It is up to you to decide who you let walk away, who you let stay, and who you refuse to let go.
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fundamental romantic ambitions aside? what do you call fundamental romantic ambitions?
i dont agree that USA has a history atleast not a rich one as iran and As rich culture as irans!
New world order? what makes them special to change worlds order?
nice said! Iran is a Country in Fire! In fire of corruption, in fire of mismanagement! in fire of conservatism!
hopefully we next generation of persian Leaders will manage to deal with these issues and make a bright future for our glorious Country!نه غزه نه لبنان جانم فدای ایران
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thinking that iran has to lead the islamic world and that islam is iran and iran is islamOriginally posted by donsaeid View Post
iran in iran and islam is a big influence in iran
can you see what i mean
even more depressingOriginally posted by donsaeid View Post
your right iran has 6000 years worth of written history that is a huge ****ing deal and the country is on fire.
who do you mena they, if you mean the west well becuse they came up with it and i think it is more of a darwinian fenomanonOriginally posted by donsaeid View Post
i mean every time any country has embraced these has suceeded and its people have come lived better lives. ![/quote]
i think curroption isnt even the half of it
its only the lid to a whole can of prolems
G-d determines who walks into your life....It is up to you to decide who you let walk away, who you let stay, and who you refuse to let go.
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G-d determines who walks into your life....It is up to you to decide who you let walk away, who you let stay, and who you refuse to let go.
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Lotfan vaghti ax ya sahneye najoor o delkharash to thread ya posti hast to title begin....ke ye dafe bargh az kaleye adm napareh!Love like you never got hurtwork like you don't need the moneyDance like no one is watching
تا عاقلان راهی برای یکبار خندیدن پیدا کنند دیوانگان هزار بار خندیده اند
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barghet parid gg?
vaghti iran betone Energye hastei dast peyda kone dige bargh nemipare
نه غزه نه لبنان جانم فدای ایران
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felan injaee ke hastam az energy hastei khabari nist azizamLove like you never got hurtwork like you don't need the moneyDance like no one is watching
تا عاقلان راهی برای یکبار خندیدن پیدا کنند دیوانگان هزار بار خندیده اند
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hala miad sabr kon aval tahrim beshim, bad bombaran konan mage irani alan? ay khosh behalet
نه غزه نه لبنان جانم فدای ایران
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