Human Species 'May Split In Two'

[zubin]

if Mike is down I'm down. and thank you for the bottomless milkshake offer.

[mike435]

i am down i just cant come over their
if i come can i bring my hooka

[zubin]

definately!

[golgol85]

mike tamoome moshkelet bordane hooka hastesh? lord, you two are too funny Ramin, since mike and i are both here you should come down to cali and see us. mike and i would have to decide whether you would meet us in LA or OC, but i say we meet half way (since i like to be fair) and have you meet us there what do you say mike?

[indian_blues]

interesting prediction. have you ever heard of the self-fulfilling prophecy? this means that when you make a prediction it actually comes true and my honest estimate is that about half of human behavior is influenced by SFP. Like you tell someone is a criminal and they become one. You tell someone they are not good in math they become bad in math and so on. That's why, even there is a chance of the world destructing itself, saying it is dangerous. Although, ignoring the danger is also dangerous, but there is no need to ignore the danger and acknowledging dangers while not making SFP's solves the problem.

Although, ofcourse, I don't know the source of your statement.

u mean "Attraction"? ive seen a great video called "Secrets of Attraction". SFP concepts sounds similar to it. u r attracted to the things which u feel and believe strongly in the inner mind. ur words, feelings and beliefs are heard by the universe and responds according to it. we call the universe as God. we have a saying in tamil "theethum nanrum peerar thara vaara" it means good and bad are not got from others. oops i think im offtopic...

[mike435]

mike tamoome moshkelet bordane hooka hastesh? lord, you two are too funny Ramin, since mike and i are both here you should come down to cali and see us. mike and i would have to decide whether you would meet us in LA or OC, but i say we meet half way (since i like to be fair) and have you meet us there what do you say mike?

i hafve friends who go to oc
i come their once in a while

[golgol85]

khob pas, it looks like mike dareh ba zabooneh bi zabooni migeh miyad Ramin. Now all we need is for you to say you will try to come down, and we have a party, although Irvine isnt very alive, if you really want to party I am sure mike knows some good places in LA with lots of iroonis.

[mike435]

khob pas, it looks like mike dareh ba zabooneh bi zabooni migeh miyad Ramin. Now all we need is for you to say you will try to come down, and we have a party, although Irvine isnt very alive, if you really want to party I am sure mike knows some good places in LA with lots of iroonis.

tell you the truth i dont know anyplaces with iroonies in la
maybe except the hooa shops in westwood
i just hangout with a group of close friends
and parties and bigger events are ussualy just perty much the same crowed. life for me its like being in a small town that has a lot of people but everyone knows everone else

sadly the only persian culture i get is persian music and persian food ans somtimes my relatives rants about how good they had it in iran.
i dono i think the iranian community in la is very to khodeshoon
thats why i like this forum so much it fills that void

[Rasputin]

Human-Chimpanzee differences are studied

BLOOMINGTON, IN, United States (UPI) -- A U.S. study suggests the genetic differences between chimpanzees and humans might be much more substantial than has been thought.

Scientists at Indiana University-Bloomington have determined approximately 6 percent of human and chimp genes are unique to each species, taking into account a fact other genetic studies do not -- the genes that aren`t there.

Indiana University computational biologist Matthew Hahn, who led the study with researcher Jeffery Demuth, said the study does not dispute the commonly reported 1.5 percent nucleotide-by-nucleotide difference between humans and chimps.

'Both estimates are correct in their own way,' Hahn said. 'It depends on what you`re asking. There isn`t a single, standard estimate of variation that incorporates all the ways humans, chimps and other animals can be genetically different from each other.'

The scientists also surveyed gene families common to both humans and chimps and observed in the human genome a significant increase in the duplication of genes that influence brain functions.

That, said Hahn, suggests duplication and loss of genes plays a bigger role in human evolution than changes within single genes.

The study appears in the inaugural issue of Public Library of Science ONE.

[Rasputin]

Gorilla born using human fertility treatment

A Western Lowland gorilla cradles her newborn baby, who was conceived with fertility treatment normally used on women.

The birth is believed to be the first fertility treatment for gorillas of its kind.

However, the baby is yet to be named or sexed because her mother Salome, 30, has so far held her new-born so close to her body.

Though this is Salome's second baby, it has been nearly 20 years since her first was born. It is suckling after being born on Dec 15.

The treatment was developed and administered by Sharon Redrobe, Head of Veterinary Services, at Bristol Zoo Gardens, and heralds a new advance in the understanding of captive breeding for the species.

Dr Bryan Carroll, deputy director, said that for the first time, the condition known as diminished ovarian reserve – a premature menopause condition also affecting fertility in humans – has been diagnosed and treated in gorillas, using methods and medicine that still allowed for natural mating. However, he said it is a critical time for mother and baby. "We are concerned that the baby looks a bit small so may be premature. The mother seems to be taking a bit longer than normal to recover from the birth, so we are monitoring things closely."

Although Salome was appearing to mate successfully vets found that she had not been ovulating.

Redrobe consulted gynaecologist David Cahill, Senior Consultant Lecturer in Obstetrics and Gynaecology at the University of Bristol.

Following discussions it was decided to lace her yoghurt with crushed up pills containing clomifene, a common fertility drug used by women to kick-start ovulation by blocking the action of the hormone oestrogen.

Mel Gage, Senior Overseer of Primates at Bristol Zoo Gardens, said: "This is such a great end to the year. To have a second successful gorilla birth at the Zoo and to know that clomifene can be used in the fertility treatment of gorillas is a major boost to the international breeding programme for these magnificent animals.

"The new baby is incredibly cute and Salome is being a very attentive mum while father Jock is being very protective of his family troop. We couldn't have hoped for more."

The gorillas at Bristol are part of the European breeding programme for this threatened species.

Dr Jo Gipps, Director of Bristol Zoo Gardens, said: "Salome's baby represents an important contribution to the next generation of gorillas and hope for the long-term conservation of these incredible creatures.

"Sadly Western Lowland Gorillas are facing serious losses in the wild caused by a number of issues including forest destruction for logging, diseases such as the recent outbreak of ebola and the terrible slaughter of primates for the illegal bush meat trade. The Zoo's conservation efforts are mirrored by our support of and work with the Cameroon Wildlife Aid Fund, which cares for gorillas and chimpanzees orphaned by the illegal trade in bush meat. "

Visitors will - if they are fortunate - be able to see Salome and her new baby on Bristol Zoo Gardens' Gorilla Island, where they can also learn about the Zoo's conservation work.

Bristol Zoo also does extensive conservation work in Cameroon, at the zoo in the capital, Yaoundé, at a sanctuary for young gorillas and chimpanzees orphaned by the illegal trade in bush meat, and in a communication education programme in villages in South East Cameroon where gorillas in the wild coexist with humans.

Bristol Zoo Gardens is also home to Salome's companion, Romina, famous for undergoing the first ever cataract operation performed in Europe on an adult gorilla. This enabled her to interact more effectively with the other gorillas and resulted in the birth of Namoki in 2005 following her mating successfully with the 24-year-old silverback male Jock who is now proud father of two.