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  • Dokhtar Bandari
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    • Oct 2007
    • 1099

    #1

    Human Rights in Iran

    This book is a must read for all Iranians.

    Human Rights in Iran: The Abuse of Cultural Relativism By Reza Afshari

    Are the principles set forth in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights truly universal? Or, as some have argued, are they derived exclusively from Western philosophic traditions and therefore irrelevant to many non-Western cultures? Should a state's claims to indigenous traditions, and not international covenants, determine the scope of rights granted to its citizens?In his strong defense of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, Reza Afshari contends that the moral vision embodied in this and other agreements is a proper response to the abuses of the modern state. Asserting that the most serious violations of human rights by state rulers are motivated by political and economic factors rather than the purported concern for cultural authenticity, Afshari examines one particular state that has claimed cultural exception to the universality of human rights, the Islamic Republic of Iran.In his revealing case study, Afshari investigates how Islamic culture and Iranian politics since the fall of the Shah have affected human rights policy in that state. He exposes the human rights violations committed by ruling clerics in Iran since the Revolution, showing that Iran has behaved remarkably like other authoritarian governments in its human rights abuses. For over two decades, Iran has systematically jailed, tortured, and executed dissidents without due process of law and assassinated political opponents outside state borders. Furthermore, like other oppressive states, Iran has regularly denied and countered the charges made by United Nations human rights monitors, defending its acts as authentic cultural practices.Throughout his study, Afshari addresses Iran's claims of cultural relativism, a controversial thesis in the intense ongoing debate over the universality of human rights. In prison memoirs he uncovers the actual human rights abuses committed by the Islamic Republic and the sociopolitical conditions that cause or permit them. Finally, Afshari turns to little-read UN reports that reveal that the dynamics of power between UN human rights monitors and Iranian leaders have proven ineffective at enforcing human rights policy in Iran. Critically analyzing the state's responses, Afshari shows that the Islamic Republic, like other oppressive states, has regularly denied and countered the charges made by UN human rights monitors, and when denials were patently implausible, it defended its acts as authentic cultural practices. This defense is equally unconvincing, since it lacked domestic cultural consensus.
    I would be true, for there are those who trust me;
    I would be pure, for there are those who care;
    I would be strong, for there is much to suffer;
    I would be brave, for there is much to dare.
    I would be friend of all—the foe—the friendless;
    I would be giving and forget the gift;
    I would be humble, for I know my weakness;
    I would look up and laugh—and love—and lift.
    Howard Walter
  • Dokhtar Bandari
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    • Oct 2007
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    #2
    Today, the state of human rights in Iran continues to be generally considered a source of significant concern. Despite many efforts by Iranian human right activists, writers, NGOs and international critiques as well as several resolutions by the UN General Assembly and the UN Human Rights Commission, the government of Iran continues to restrict freedom of speech, gender equality and other forms of freedom.

    Furthermore, the Islamic regime of Iran continues to disregard the Universal Declaration of Human Rights in several aspects.

    Human rights violations in Islamic Republic of Iran can be said to derive from two elements;

    Firstly, traditional Islam and the Sharia law: The historical petrification of Sharia law by some cultures/regimes has allowed for significant gender inequality, homosexual persecution, as well as other internationally criticised practices such as stoning as a method of execution.
    Furthermore, in Iran, a mentality of fatalism established through the practice of Shia Islam also helps less educated elements of the public disregard violations by attributing them to fate.
    I would be true, for there are those who trust me;
    I would be pure, for there are those who care;
    I would be strong, for there is much to suffer;
    I would be brave, for there is much to dare.
    I would be friend of all—the foe—the friendless;
    I would be giving and forget the gift;
    I would be humble, for I know my weakness;
    I would look up and laugh—and love—and lift.
    Howard Walter

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    • Dokhtar Bandari
      Member
      • Oct 2007
      • 1099

      #3
      Iran is home to the first charter of human rights— the Persian Empire established unprecedented principles of human rights in the 6th century BC, under the reign of Cyrus the Great. After his conquest of Babylon in 539 BC, the King issued the Cyrus Cylinder, discovered in 1879 and recognised by many today as the first document defining a person's human rights. The cylinder declared that citizens of the Empire would be allowed to practice their religious beliefs freely and abolished slavery. This means that all the palaces of the Kings of Persia were built by paid workers, in an era where slaves typically did such work. These two reforms were reflected in the biblical books of Chronicles and Ezra, which state that Cyrus released the followers of Judaism from slavery and allowed them to migrate back to their land. Following Persia's defeat at the hands of Alexander the Great, the concept of human rights was abandoned.

      In 1906 the Iranian Constitutional Revolution resulted in a constitutional monarchy. For the first time in the more than 2000 years since the reign of Cyrus the Great, Iran was relying on a code of law to govern the interactions of its citizens and define their minimum freedoms.

      With the arrival of Reza Shah Pahlavi in 1925, the constitutional monarchy was for all practical reasons abolished. His son, Mohammad Reza Shah Pahlavi continued in his father's footsteps. It was under his reign that the Iranian human rights movement drastically picked up once again and ultimately climaxed in the 1979 Iranian Revolution. Following the revolution, the subsequent Islamic Government of Iran continued flagrantly to disregard human rights and in many cases has made the situation worse.

      Following the rise of the reform movement within Iran and the election of moderate Iranian president Mohammad Khatami in 1997 numerous moves were made to modify the Iranian civil and penal codes in order to improve the human rights situation. The predominantly reformist parliament drafted several bills allowing increased freedom of speech, gender equality, and the banning of torture. These were all dismissed or significantly watered down by the Guardian Council and leading conservative figures in the Iranian government at the time.
      I would be true, for there are those who trust me;
      I would be pure, for there are those who care;
      I would be strong, for there is much to suffer;
      I would be brave, for there is much to dare.
      I would be friend of all—the foe—the friendless;
      I would be giving and forget the gift;
      I would be humble, for I know my weakness;
      I would look up and laugh—and love—and lift.
      Howard Walter

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      • Dokhtar Bandari
        Member
        • Oct 2007
        • 1099

        #4
        Children's rights in Iran at the international law level:
        Following declarations made upon ratification of the UN Convention on the Rights of the Child, Iran made the following comments: "the government of the Islamic Republic of Iran reserves the right not to apply dispositions and articles of the convention that would not be compatible with Islamic law or with the legislation in effect in the country. (UN document C.N.321.1995 of the treaty). The country continues to execute children. One of the recent cases to gain international attention was the hanging of Atefah Sahaaleh.

        Human Rights for Children reports that there are currently 74 children (under 18 years of age) facing execution in Iran.
        Last edited by Dokhtar Bandari; 11-16-2007, 08:21 AM.
        I would be true, for there are those who trust me;
        I would be pure, for there are those who care;
        I would be strong, for there is much to suffer;
        I would be brave, for there is much to dare.
        I would be friend of all—the foe—the friendless;
        I would be giving and forget the gift;
        I would be humble, for I know my weakness;
        I would look up and laugh—and love—and lift.
        Howard Walter

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        • maryam9
          Member
          • Mar 2007
          • 644

          #5
          Thanks for mentioning this. Have u read this? If so, is it quite a difficult read & how long did it take u to read this?
          Mary's back, back again

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          • Rasputin
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2005
            • 63906

            #6
            ta zamani keh islam dar iran basheh,human rights nakhahad bud dar iran.

            iran

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            • maryam9
              Member
              • Mar 2007
              • 644

              #7
              Originally posted by RedWine View Post
              ta zamani keh islam dar iran basheh,human rights nakhahad bud dar iran.
              hmm, well in my opinion, I dont think thats quite right...

              Theres nothing wrong with Islam, its what Ahmadinejad is doing which is wrong and giving a bad name to Islam (mixing religion with politics) so all the stuff thats going on isnt Islam... but im sure u know that already.

              One of my friends was telling me about the Shariah law: thats not islam. (eg the stoning of an adulterer) he told me that hes read the Quran and theres nothing in it about stoning the adulterer to death. The punishment is whipping (or something else, i forgot).

              But i think the situation in iran is (slowly) getting better
              Last edited by maryam9; 11-16-2007, 01:47 PM.
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              • Khorsheed
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                • Nov 2006
                • 540

                #8
                well actually about the adultery thing, it depends.
                if you have an affair when someone whose married and your not, its stoning.
                if both sides are married then its death. I've read this some time, i might be wrong, so dont attack me.
                plus i dont think ahmedinejad is giving islam a bad image.. its the outer world that is.. trying to spread such bad publicty, because someone is just not allowed them to bind him to them.
                but then opinions vary, and mine cleary is different than yours





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                • Dokhtar Bandari
                  Member
                  • Oct 2007
                  • 1099

                  #9
                  Originally posted by maryam_shirazi_9 View Post
                  Thanks for mentioning this. Have u read this? If so, is it quite a difficult read & how long did it take u to read this?

                  Maryam jaan, its about 390 pages and it is not difficult at all. If you like to read and if you are interested in what is going on in our country, you will not be able to put it down. It came out a few years ago, I am sure Amazon has it or I can send you a copy if you like.

                  On Ahmadinejad giving Islam a bad name...I must agree and add that Ahmadinejad is not only giving Islam a worse name that it had before but he is also opening the world's eyes as to how vile this religion can be.

                  You do not know Islam azizam, you only know what has been thought to you at school or by your parents...but you do not know the intent behind this ever clear and present danger called Islam.

                  Now I have said it before and I say it now, this Islam has nothing to do with the original message came down in the original Ghoran...for that you need to ask the Magis...too long and too complicated.

                  For now they must leave our counrty, not if not when...they must.
                  I would be true, for there are those who trust me;
                  I would be pure, for there are those who care;
                  I would be strong, for there is much to suffer;
                  I would be brave, for there is much to dare.
                  I would be friend of all—the foe—the friendless;
                  I would be giving and forget the gift;
                  I would be humble, for I know my weakness;
                  I would look up and laugh—and love—and lift.
                  Howard Walter

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                  • maryam9
                    Member
                    • Mar 2007
                    • 644

                    #10
                    Khorsheed - I want to clarify what I wrote - i dont think it was really clear. (I shouldnt have mentioned Ahmadinejad's name because the sentence emphasises him, which is not what i wanted).

                    What I meant was that: religion shouldnt be mixed with politics because otherwise it will give a false portrayal of a religion.
                    __

                    Dokhtar_Bandari - Thanks for the offer about the book - id rather buy it though (I like having books to keep for the rest of my life, im kinda nerdy like that!)
                    Originally posted by Dokhtar Bandari View Post
                    On Ahmadinejad giving Islam a bad name...I must agree and add that Ahmadinejad is not only giving Islam a worse name that it had before but he is also opening the world's eyes as to how vile this religion can be.
                    hmm... well this is my opinion - Islam has come from God, our creator, the all-knowing. All religions from God are perfect.
                    Originally posted by Dokhtar Bandari View Post
                    You do not know Islam azizam, you only know what has been thought to you at school or by your parents...but you do not know the intent behind this ever clear and present danger called Islam.

                    Now I have said it before and I say it now, this Islam has nothing to do with the original message came down in the original Ghoran...for that you need to ask the Magis...too long and too complicated.
                    Yes, you are right, i havent lived in an islamic country so I havent experienced it like you most probably have.
                    Like you said, its not Islam thats the problem, its when people start changing things because it is defeating the whole purpose of religion: Unity.

                    I really like this quote - its from Judaism (im adding it because i think its kinda related to this discussion)
                    "What is hateful to you, do not to your fellow men.
                    That is the entire Law; all the rest is commentary." (The Talmud)
                    Last edited by maryam9; 11-16-2007, 02:27 PM.
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                    • Dokhtar Bandari
                      Member
                      • Oct 2007
                      • 1099

                      #11
                      Just a FYI: On Islam and stoning...read and know. Its Islam law and not Iran law.


                      Volume 2, Book 23, Number 413:
                      Narrated 'Abdullah bin 'Umar :
                      The Jew brought to the Prophet a man and a woman from amongst them who have committed (adultery) illegal sexual intercourse. He ordered both of them to be stoned (to death), near the place of offering the funeral prayers beside the mosque."

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                      I would be true, for there are those who trust me;
                      I would be pure, for there are those who care;
                      I would be strong, for there is much to suffer;
                      I would be brave, for there is much to dare.
                      I would be friend of all—the foe—the friendless;
                      I would be giving and forget the gift;
                      I would be humble, for I know my weakness;
                      I would look up and laugh—and love—and lift.
                      Howard Walter

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                      • zubin
                        Member
                        • Aug 2006
                        • 1567

                        #12
                        I completely agree with Maryam on this one. If one considers "Sufism" (which is very much a part of the ordinary Iranian interpretation of Islam) as a sect of Islam, for example, one is opening Iranian-Islamic laws to true universalism, ie the Kantian notion of principles that are accepted by everyone.

                        In other words, perhaps Sufism allows symbolic interpretation of Islam. Hejab, Prayer and all these things are merely self-development of respect and ethics.

                        First, one has the freedom to take his/her own path without law- it is culture that builds the morals as opposed to law in Sufism.

                        Second, the intuitive as opposed to literal interpretation of Islam by Sufi's will inevitably interpret ethics differently. Ethics are about respect, not some literal interpretation of text, and this might be a universal principle. It also puts much more emphasis on rights of women for anyone who cares about that.

                        At the end, however, what Redwine says is right. If we had a transfer to symbolic Islam, it would still be a transitional stage away from organized religion in the popular sense.
                        Last edited by zubin; 11-17-2007, 10:09 AM.
                        Take him and cut him out in little stars,
                        and he will make the face of heaven so fine,
                        that all the world will be in love with night,
                        and pay no worship to the garish sun

                        - Shakespeare

                        "In all intellectual debates, both sides tend to be correct in what they affirm, and wrong in what they deny." - JS Mill

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                        • Rasputin
                          Senior Member
                          • Jan 2005
                          • 63906

                          #13
                          Originally posted by maryam_shirazi_9 View Post
                          hmm, well in my opinion, I dont think thats quite right...

                          Theres nothing wrong with Islam, its what Ahmadinejad is doing which is wrong and giving a bad name to Islam (mixing religion with politics) so all the stuff thats going on isnt Islam... but im sure u know that already.

                          One of my friends was telling me about the Shariah law: thats not islam. (eg the stoning of an adulterer) he told me that hes read the Quran and theres nothing in it about stoning the adulterer to death. The punishment is whipping (or something else, i forgot).

                          But i think the situation in iran is (slowly) getting better
                          Nah... Ma digeh eslam meslam nemikhahim ! Ino digeh bayad beh cheh zabani goft !!!! Har ki mikhad mosalman basheh va eslam mikhad ,iran nayad ! bereh beh yek keshvareh arabic ! agar mikhad kasi mosalman basheh va ba eslam basheh va dar iran zendegi koneh,nabayd digeh kari beh digaran dashteh basheh,lat bazi tamam shod !

                          iran

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                          • Dokhtar Bandari
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                            • Oct 2007
                            • 1099

                            #14
                            Originally posted by RedWine View Post
                            Nah... Ma digeh eslam meslam nemikhahim ! Ino digeh bayad beh cheh zabani goft !!!! Har ki mikhad mosalman basheh va eslam mikhad ,iran nayad ! bereh beh yek keshvareh arabic ! agar mikhad kasi mosalman basheh va ba eslam basheh va dar iran zendegi koneh,nabayd digeh kari beh digaran dashteh basheh,lat bazi tamam shod !
                            I agree...I want a Islam free Iran. Though I think we can all get along under one roof, Islam or any religion for that matter should not be a ruling body of our government. Che kafar che bot parast che allah che yehweh...keep it to yourself, of course with all due respect.

                            I would be true, for there are those who trust me;
                            I would be pure, for there are those who care;
                            I would be strong, for there is much to suffer;
                            I would be brave, for there is much to dare.
                            I would be friend of all—the foe—the friendless;
                            I would be giving and forget the gift;
                            I would be humble, for I know my weakness;
                            I would look up and laugh—and love—and lift.
                            Howard Walter

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                            • zubin
                              Member
                              • Aug 2006
                              • 1567

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Dokhtar Bandari View Post
                              I agree...I want a Islam free Iran. Though I think we can all get along under one roof, Islam or any religion for that matter should not be a ruling body of our government. Che kafar che bot parast che allah che yehweh...keep it to yourself, of course with all due respect.

                              just being devil's advocate here... afterall, we don't want the devil to have strong arguments...

                              the argument is that your moral is fully correct, but it is an ideal which is not feasible at the moment. people will simply not listen and "mind their own business". They will in fact interfere, so the question is how to deal with it.
                              Take him and cut him out in little stars,
                              and he will make the face of heaven so fine,
                              that all the world will be in love with night,
                              and pay no worship to the garish sun

                              - Shakespeare

                              "In all intellectual debates, both sides tend to be correct in what they affirm, and wrong in what they deny." - JS Mill

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