Saudi Cleric Explains Wife Beating in Islam

[zubin]

I noticed, but you evaded the question this time... We can talk about the problem and "solution" all we want, but the solution is itself the main problem now... in terms of how the solution will come about.

thanks for all the quotes...

[mike435]

one must always question any instruction given or fall at the mercy of the instructor.

if in this case the instructure is g-d, an all knowing, alll just g-d
than why not be at his mercy isnt that the ideal

i just think that this is a intresting dilema

[Dokhtar Bandari]

if in this case the instructure is g-d, an all knowing, alll just g-d
than why not be at his mercy isnt that the ideal

i just think that this is a intresting dilema

Mike one question: is your O button broken? Or you just don't want to mention his name? no pun intended here, just a question.

Now let me ask you another question:
Assuming that God is Infinit and All Knowing...for what purpose would he give us any instructions?

[mike435]

Mike one question: is your O button broken? Or you just don't want to mention his name? no pun intended here, just a question.

Now let me ask you another question:
Assuming that God is Infinit and All Knowing...for what purpose would he give us any instructions?

you see here is another dilema question

if g-d is infinite why would their be a transfer from him to us
infinite is everything their is no sense in a transfer right?

so first we have to understand the concept of "transfer" i once heard a lecture but didnt totaly grasp it to the best of my knowledge its is called tisum or somthing like that but it was from kabalah


and regarding my spelling according to jewish law you should not write his name if it is only temporary or not for a pourpouse also
we dont even out right pronounce his name unless in a prayer.

[mike435]

also than what is the point of praying if their is an all knowing g-d and all just g-d wouldnt he know already that what is just for you and what is not just for you

[Dokhtar Bandari]

Mike, first you have to grasp the Infinite part. You can't! because you are a finite being. My question is if God is infinity, all powerful, all knowing why does he need religion, to do what???? With one blow he can have us all at his mercy, clean all of our sins, make us all good or wipe us all from the face of earth.

So why the religion?

Please note: I am not saying my statement is right or wrong, good or bad. I am merely putting a question in front of you to see what your mind can come up with.

Now I will give you an example of infinite: if you have 2 sticks that have no point of beginning and no point of end..how do you cross them? You can't, because there has to be a point where they would meet and cross, but they are infinite so they can't cross. So now you can get a glimpse of what infinite means.

Psssssst: a private message from God: He wants you know it is ok to use his name anyway you choose. He loves it when people say his name and talk about him.

[mike435]

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Now I will give you an example of infinite: if you have 2 sticks that have no point of beginning and no point of end..how do you cross them? You can't, because there has to be a point where they would meet and cross, but they are infinite so they can't cross. So now you can get a glimpse of what infinite means.

look but your infinit is not infinit the line is infinit in one dimetion but still finite in the other

the infonit that i am talking about is in all dimention in all thing
g-d is everything meaning totaly infinit

example is look at a leaf
if you zoom out you get a bush, than the park, than a block, than the city, contentent, planet earth, solar system, galaxy, clusters of galagxy, and so one utill up to what we know as 100,000,000, light across of space that is being created

now if you zoom in to the leaf you see the cells, than inter working of the cell, than the molecoules, than the atoms , and you could still go furthre

the infinit that i am imaganing is an infinit that is lke a big square cube going in all dimentions for infinit

so in my infinit those lines ar the same thing and are allways crossing

[Rasputin]

حكم عجيب قاضي سعودي: سيلي زدن به زنان ولخرج مشكلي ندارد

يك قاضي عالي رتبه ي عربستان گفت: سيلي زدن به زناني كه ولخرج هستند مشكلي ندارد.

به گزارش سرويس بين الملل خبرگزاري «انتخاب»، وي گفت: شوهران در عربستان سعودي اجاز يافتند تا به زنانشان سيلي بزنند، اگر انها پول زياد خرج كردند.

به نوشته ي سي ان ان، قاضي حميد الرازين گفته است كه شايسته است كه زنان براي ولخرجي هاي بيخود، كتك بخورند!

گفتني است، اين اظهارات عجيب قاضي سعودي در يك كنفرانس داخلي در مورد دعواهاي خانوادگي در اين كشور بيان شده است.

الراظينو گفت: رفتار بي حياي يك زن و استفاده از كلمات تو هين اميز نسبت به شوهرش، بعضي از دلايل براي دعواهاي خانوادگي در عربستان است

به گزارش سرويس بين الملل خبرگزاري «انتخاب»، زنان به اين اظهارات الراظيه اعتراض كردند و بسياري نيز از بيان چنين اظهاراتي شگفت زده اند