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  • #31
    Originally posted by mike435 View Post
    i do not belive this based on experiance there have been times were i have persued some of my oral belifes and i didnt like were it was heading or going

    LOL Mike, I too sometimes question my "oral" beliefs..but hell I like it and won't give it up...LOL
    Last edited by Dokhtar Bandari; 12-04-2007, 11:42 AM.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by indian_blues View Post
      Human is just an pure animal when he comes to earth, parents and society makes him a civilized human ... human in sense who can think, obey and be part of a society. Language is the tool which helps him to establish this goal. my point is whatever we learn as right and wrong are supposed to be broken for freewill. Yes human is slave to his own emotions and his freewill dictates his actions. Even though deep down in hearts we feel it subconsciously we are not allowed to do. Surely it doesn't have any big impact if an individual going crazy what happens when an entire set of community believes a crazy things and going after it?

      as for the concept of god I believe it... who is in the form of truth and love... which is infinite which is filled in our body and thoughts ... we believe the entire universe is in ourselves.... so by searching urself u can find truth.. and u need love... pure love to reach it... and it will end at one point where is god nothing but you.. becoz u r filled with love.

      Hmmmmmmmmmmm....a couple of things: We are pure animals when we are born???? How do you figure that Indan jaan? How come we don't look like an animal when we are born? May be you could say we are primal when we are born. What I think is that we are born with a pure spirit, which is ready to learn and explore and live through us...what we teach it is what makes us the kind of human we are in any given society, what we experience in our lives is what our spirit has learned in order to guide our actions, but free will gives us the opportunity to change the actions we deem unpleasant and pleasant.
      I agree that society, parents, media and so on so forth have a lot to do with what we learn...however, there comes a time when we can question what we have learned, its accuracy and validity in our current daily lives.
      And...ok language is a tool, but are you saying one who is deaf and mute should be outcast?
      I like your statement about God..that is the truth...thanks.

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      • #33
        If everyone here indulge me I am going to show you that consiousness is everything and the question of Morality will become more clear after you have read what I am telling you...its a long read but its well worth it...please read it, if nothing else it will give you some good knowledge.

        The human brain has an estimated 30 billion neurons. Each neuron consists of a vast collection of atoms and even vaster collection of subatomic particles. It operates like a computer, except that if the processing power of every computer on earth were joined together it would still not match the computing abilities of one single human brain!

        Most office computers have the capacity to communicate with outside computers such as vast data banks, through a “modem” connected to a telephone line. The human mind, under certain circumstances, appears to have this same capacity. It appears that it can be triggered to interact with other minds and universal forces. Famed psychologist Karl Jung called this the “Universal Consciousness”. Dr. Peter Russell calls it the global brain. World famous Biologist Rupert Sheldrake refers to it as the morphogenetic field.

        All living creatures appear to have their own distinctive energy field.
        As far back as 1940 Harold Burr, a Neuroanatomist at Yale University,
        conducted a study of energy fields around living plants and animals. He discovered that a young Salamander exhibited an energy field approximately the same shape as the adult it would eventually become. Also he found that the axis of the field could even be detected in the egg stage. When he studied seedlings he found that the electrical field around the sprouts resembled the adult plant. But it wasn’t until the Russians discovered ***lian photography that these energy fields around living objects could be photographed.

        A Russian experimenter, ***lian, discovered accidentally that photographs taken in the presence of high voltage fields contained an “aura” around the living object being photographed. ***lian was an electrician of some renown and lived in a small cramped flat with his wife. He had no credibility at all in the scientific world and it wasn’t for many years that the significance of his discovery was realized. He persevered with this unusual photography for many years until it caught the attention of the Russian Agricultural Department. One day, a senior official visited the ***lians one day with two identical plants and asked ***lian to photograph them both to see if there was
        any noticeable difference. Both plants looked exactly the same.

        The resultant photographs indicated that one plant had a normal healthy aura while the other was very sickly. The Agricultural man reportedly leapt up and down with delight because some disease had been destroying vast areas of crops and up until that point they had no way of telling which crops were affected.

        LOL..the Tapesh rules won't let me write the full name...its K I R L I A N..can you figure out why???LOL
        Last edited by Dokhtar Bandari; 12-04-2007, 11:58 AM.

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                  • #39
                    The input of new knowledge is discarded at the receiving point -the conscious mind says “rubbish” - end of conservation. Actually some people develope a glazed looks when confronted with new knowledge which their concious mind blocks due to its unfimiliarity.

                    In the past decade strong evidence has developed suggesting that all human consciousness is interconnected at a very deep subconscious level. In the same way that a magnetic compass is part of the earth's larger magnetic field, so is your consciousness part of a larger universal consciousness!
                    Twitch a magnetic compass and its magnetic variation affects the earth's field (admittedly this would be difficult to measure). Twitch your consciousness with a mental thought and you twitch the whole consciousness field!

                    But the big difference is that your thoughts can be “tuned” or “resonated” to react in a certain way..... with another specific human mind or with sub-atomic particles of matter!

                    A physical analogy to the above “interconnection” theory is the simple
                    fridge magnet you stick on your fridge door. If you suddenly pull it off the door its magnetic movement will have a slight immeasurable microscopic effect on the earth magnetic field. Admittedly the effect will be so incredibly small as to be incapable of detection on current state-of-the-art instruments. But the effect will still be there! Likewise if the earth's magnetic field were to suddenly shift every compass in existence would swing slightly. This is because everything that is magnetically sensitive is part of one field - the magnetic field! Change one part of the field and you affect the whole!
                    So far so good. Now let us get back to the fridge magnet example and expand on the effect of magnetic field disturbance, which will then lead on to mental field disturbance!

                    The most spectacular form of human-made magnetic field disturbance is created by the explosion of a nuclear bomb. When one of these is exploded it not only flattens everything within a 10 mile radius and produces a mushroom cloud 10-15 miles high, but it also produces an intense magnetic field which disrupts radio communications for thousands of miles. The effect of an atomic explosion can be detected half way round the earth and nuclear warning laboratories have sensitive instruments manned 24 hours per day to detect just such explosions.

                    But, the core of this bomb, made of Uranium 235 (or whatever they use these days) could easily fit in the trunk of your car and take up about the same space as a box of 2-3000 fridge magnets! The message here is that a relatively small portable object can produce, by changing its chemical/atomic state, a measurable effect half way around the earth!

                    When you have a “thought” which chemically modifies the brain cell tructures responsible for propagating this neural activity it is scientifically possible this may affect other neural structures outside your physical body, but sharing the same energy field. After all the air around you is made up of atomic structures (called molecules) and from a scientific viewpoint should be capable of transferring messages, at an atomic level, over vast distances!
                    It may be that your thought forms, by changing the chemical balance
                    in your brain can affect a multitude of other thoughtforms around you …… in other people, far away!!

                    Theoretically this might happen by chemical/atomic transference through the atoms and molecules in the air between your brain cells and those of the “receivers”! So if you developed an intense “mental resonance” style thought-form it may impinge in a sub-microscopic manner in the chemical thoughtform processes of other individuals. . . some of whom may be sympathetic to your requirements!!! (maybe this is how Islam attract its “victims”).

                    And without them knowing why they may tend to gravitate in your direction to help you achieve your aims, either directly or indirectly! I guess if this happened directly it could qualify as some sort of miracle. If it happened indirectly it could be regarded as the “universal mind” fulfilling your “cosmic” order!

                    And that is about where the scientific community is at the moment, in
                    the science of consciousness! All this opens up a few doors for experimentation, doesn’t it? And the most fascinating thing is ..... you
                    can do your own experiments free of charge, because you already own
                    the necessary lab equipment ..... your own mind!
                    Last edited by Dokhtar Bandari; 12-04-2007, 01:04 PM.

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                    • #40
                      aaaaa....hmm...well..... Data Base would like to know who is the author for ur above posts.


                      If you wish to be loved, show more of your faults than your virtues. - Edward Bulwer-Lytton


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                      • #41
                        i second that

                        must say your articales are very hard to put down or just skim thrugh
                        you have good sources
                        and if it is you wow bravo


                        G-d determines who walks into your life....It is up to you to decide who you let walk away, who you let stay, and who you refuse to let go.


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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by indian_blues View Post
                          aaaaa....hmm...well..... Data Base would like to know who is the author for ur above posts.

                          The author would like to stay anonymous at this time..lol

                          Mike, I am glad u like it. I will post some more if you want.

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Dokhtar Bandari View Post
                            The author would like to stay anonymous at this time..lol

                            Mike, I am glad u like it. I will post some more if you want.

                            i acctualy would but the author and source is very important to me


                            G-d determines who walks into your life....It is up to you to decide who you let walk away, who you let stay, and who you refuse to let go.


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                            • #44
                              awesome db... really I felt finished reading yet another Michael Crichton or Dan Brown.

                              before I blabber anything related to this it would be great if u could say how this is really comes to our subject of morality.

                              thanks for sharing you are rocking.


                              If you wish to be loved, show more of your faults than your virtues. - Edward Bulwer-Lytton


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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by indian_blues View Post
                                awesome db... really I felt finished reading yet another Michael Crichton or Dan Brown.

                                before I blabber anything related to this it would be great if u could say how this is really comes to our subject of morality.

                                thanks for sharing you are rocking.
                                Simply that consciousness and energy create the nature of reality...your belief system will automatically direct your actions.
                                As I mentioned below, if your conscious mind does not have the reference point for a particular behaviour, it will reject it and it will argue with you and will win.
                                So...what I am saying is that for "the world to change man must change"..Morality is a belief system.
                                A good example will be Dali Lama...for him to be compassionate is as natural as for you to be Indian...why? because his consciousness and belief system.
                                If one has to make an effort to be a moral person all the time, then they are not really moral people just trying to cover their immoral self. Its like when someone says stay positive...hog wash..."I am try to think positive" usually means I am trying to cover up my negative thoughts. Got it?????

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