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  • #91
    Originally posted by RedWine View Post
    In chiz hayeh moshtarak migi,manzuret faghat ghesmat hayeh khubesheh,nah ? .. un ghesmat haei keh beh mardom salhayeh sal dorough goftan chi ? unha hesab nemisheh ? ki javab-e in ja ro mideh ? belakhare kam kam dareh hameh chiza roshan misheh, mardom digeh bi savad nistan ! mardom daran kam kam soal mikonan jaryan chieh ! chetorieh keh mazhab barayeh ba'azi az adam ha poul miareh va khosh bakhti,vali barayeh adamayeh digeh bad bakhti va zolm va narahati miareh !!!

    Adam aval bayad yek suzan beh khodesh bezaneh, yek javalduz ham beh digaroun ! digeh touyeh in zamuneh, sareh kasi kolah nemireh ! har ki ham keh mikhad hanuz saresh kolah basheh,khodesh hast keh moghassereh va akhreh kar,az hameh chizha aghab mi ofteh !
    1, doros harfamo nafamidi ya doros nakhondi
    2, age manzoret ba islam hast, ye chize saree hamin signatueret ke dar morede sangsar gozashti, aya midooni sangsar dar che mavared miat va tarighe amalesh chie chejoore??? age ino midooni bad man bahat dar morede dinha bahs mikonam

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    • #92
      Originally posted by RedWine View Post
      Shayad mitarsan began keh masihi hastan !

      LOOOOOOOOOOOOOL siamak u r so funny maaaan, wtf u r talkin about!!! chi chio mitarsaaan, to shakhsi hasti ke be har tarighi i donno whats ur problem but be har tarighiii doos dari esme islamo bad dar biarii har joooor ke shode

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      • #93
        bara etella'ate omoomit migam, islam is the fastest and largest growin religion in world
        khoda ro shokr ke to yeki goolle in mosalmoonaye adam kosh nakhordio mosalmoon nashodi,

        ye infoye dige bara etella'ate omoomit inke, suicide bombing ro avalin bar japoniha anjam dadan dar zamane jange jahanii ba amrika ke dashtan,

        man har az gahii miam ye khorde etela'at behet midam ke befahmi donya daste kie azizam

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        • #94
          man ham ba Mamad movafegham. hich dini mesle Islam nemishe

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          • #95
            Originally posted by Cop View Post
            LOOOOOOOOOOOOOL siamak u r so funny maaaan, wtf u r talkin about!!! chi chio mitarsaaan, to shakhsi hasti ke be har tarighi i donno whats ur problem but be har tarighiii doos dari esme islamo bad dar biarii har joooor ke shode
            He is not alone on it! unfortunetly because of some stuff In and Out side iran People have a wrong picture of islam!

            Islam is religion of peace, brotherhood, Respect, Harmoni and Love
            نه غزه نه لبنان جانم فدای ایران


            صادق هدايت؛ بوف کور

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            • #96
              Mammad jan shoma do sal va khurdei hast keh mano mishnasi va fekr nakonam ta beh hal dar inja chizi dideh bashi keh neshangar-e bi ehterami-e man nesbat beh eslam va ya mazhab-e digar basheh !

              Touyeh in section,beh andazeyeh kafi mataleb gozashteh shodeh dar mored-e inkeh dalayeli keh man miaram,kamelan bar hasab-e history va khod-e Ghora'an hast ! man hich chizi ro bedun-e dalil nemigam !

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              Moshkel-e asli tanha eslam nist ! bahs-e man dar mored-e tamam-e mazaheb boudeh va hast ! in shoma budi keh eslam ro matrah kardid,nah man !

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              Mazhab umad ta barayeh ensan ha rahi basheh barayeh azadi va behtar zendegi kardan, Aya az zamani keh mazaheb umadan, ensan ha ba azadi zendegi kardan ? aya mardom ta beh hamin alan tamaman ba hoghugh-e mosavi zendegi kardan va mikonan ? ..in noktei hast keh har adam-e aghel va baleghi miduneh keh mazhab hamisheh mored-e su-e estefadeh gharar gerefteh shodeh va moteasefaneh hich vaght natunesteh rahi basheh barayeh hamzisiti-e moshtarak bein-e ensan ha !!!

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              Dar keshvar-e man va shoma, Iran ,agar kasi bekhad mazhabesho avaz koneh, mored-e khashm-e akhoundha gharar migireh, zendani misheh va e'edam misheh ! chera ? agar Mohammad in kar ro mikard dar 1400 sal-e pish,baray-e in bud keh dar an zaman,te'edad-e mosalman kam bud,nah inkeh bekhad ghanuni ro bezareh keh baes-e zajr va azab-e mardom besheh !

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              Aya mardom-e Iran bedun-e jang eslam ro ghabul kardan ? aya eslam bedun-e khun rizi umad beh Iran? nah !!! ma ghabl az eslam, mazhab-e digeh dashtim,ma zartoshti budim ! shoma madraki biar keh neshun bedeh keh ta hamin hala mardom-e Iran az din-e Eslam razi budan va hastan. chounkeh Iranian,dar hich zamani az din-e eslam razi nabudan va nakhahad bud ! mazhabi keh beh zur biad va ba shamshir beh jelo bereh, hich vaght nemituneh jaygah-e asli-e khodesho peida koneh ! nah hameyeh mardom hazeran keh kur kuraneh ghabul konan tamame masaeli ro keh baghieh migan va goftan !! hastan adamhayeh ziadi keh digeh hazer nistan keh beh zur-e shamshir ,sareshun kolah bereh va sareshun balayeh dar bereh ! an zamanha digar gozasht !!

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              Barha dideh shodeh keh khod-e saran-e mazhabi, Ali Hossein az iranian bad goftan va tamamn hadis va tarikh amadeh keh arabha ba ma doshman budan, pas taklif-e in jaryan chi misheh ? aya in ham dorougheh ?

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              Agar shoma entezar darid keh man kur kuraneh begam keh eslam perfect hast, moteasefaneh bayad shoma ro na omid konam va begam keh eslam,manand-e mazahebeh digeh kamel va perfect nist !!! ghavanin-e eslam nah dar zaman-e khodesh, va nah alan barayeh mellat-e Iran va nah hich vaght kafi budeh,in ghavanin kamelan neveshteh shodeh hast barayeh a'arab,nah barayeh mellati keh khodesh sahebe ghavanin budeh va hast va kameltarin jaryan-e farhangi ro dareh !

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              Dar Iran, zanan ba'ad az eslam ta beh hamin alan mored-e zolm gharar gereftan, hich vaght zanan,natavanestan hamanand-e mardan az hoghugh-e mosavi barkhordar bashan ! bikhod va bi jahat daran zanha ro az bein mibaran va in chizi nist keh digeh beshavad penhan kard !

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              Dar inja yek nafar dareh dorough migeh ! ya eslam va ya hokumate eslami !! shoma entekhab kon ! ki inja dareh zolm mikoneh va azab ijad mikoneh barayeh mellat-e Iran ? ki va ya cheh kasani daran su-e estefadeh mikonan ? va chera ? shoma entekhab kon, shoma neshun bedeh va tozih bedeh ta keh besheh dar yek jahat-e mostaghim va sazandeh bahs kard !

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              Dar har sharayeti keh basheh,man taraf-e mellat-e Iran hastam ! man mikham azadi dar keshvaram basheh,man nemikham digeh zur va zolm va ejbar dar Iran basheh,shoma begu ki moghassereh va chera ! man beh hameyeh aghayedi keh bar hasab-e aghl va mantegh bashan,ehteram mizaram !

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              • #97
                guys wether you belive in the religion or not or logicly it dosent make sence to you that religion should excist or not excist
                you should leav the subject alon
                because even if you have seen bad from a religion it is not the truely religious that you should be going after, it is the crazy fanatic that uses it as a tool of hate. and alters its interpatations

                what ever religion that has pissed you off, you are barking up the wrong tree because the avrage religious prson is truely using the religion for good

                and even lets say you still think that rellligion or all these are g-d forbid fake you dont have to consstantly chalange it because it is a good and why would you want to tarnish somthing that is good

                remeber the avrag religious person uses religion for what it is intended so i think the whole argument of chalenging religion in a public places to the masses is iralevent becuase it is not the masses that are using religion in uninteded ways

                for example from relligion of peace comes stonning of a young woman who has been raped,
                because of this incident are you gonne lable alll muslims inhuman,? Offcourse Not because an overwealming majority dont beliveit and are extremly against it,most will remain muslim becuase it was not their religioun that did it.

                also if you keep putting up examples of religous people who have done bad you only creat hate like that, and you push the moderates of that religion to extremes becuase they think your cartique is against them.

                example muslim terrosit hijaked plane crashed it in to the worls trade center.

                that was not an act of islam it was the evil act of acpoul of individuals who interpeted islam like that it would not make sence to say islam is bad becuase it is not islam

                also at the same time when people say religion is the root of all evil
                that has truths to it to becuase unfortanitly it is the fanatic minority that ussualy takes helm of the movment and logicly in anything if you take it all the way you cant see somthing else coexcisting so you start hostility among the mases. hopefuly we can bring some rational to the religious minority in hopes that they wont creat hotilitys

                also you have allwyas seen ingighting in the same relgion so even if their was no religion people will still fined ways to kill each other.
                the sad thing is religion is the fasest and most efficient way to unite people.


                G-d determines who walks into your life....It is up to you to decide who you let walk away, who you let stay, and who you refuse to let go.


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                • #98
                  mike well put and yes i agree we have to stop generalizing and putting an entire religion or all religions into one basket and keep stepping on it cause what some fanatics do with it, plz go and stomp on those individuals who change the religion and for example stay behind their holy book to defend themselves when they go on a killing spree and call it holy war. the root of the problem are people who misinterpret religions, not the religion itself!

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                  • #99
                    i am announcing proudly, i am a pure Bahai. In my perspective all other religons are respectable including Islam but unfortunately islamic religious leaders make human beings frustrated!


                    FIRST YEAR OF ADVANCED MATHEMATICS AT MACQUARIE UNIVERSITY

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                    • Muslim

                      I am a muslim too, Vali be nazare man ensane khoob boodan mohem tar az ejraye forooye din hast.

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                      • I am all of the above.
                        MO

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                        • I wanted to say I am muslim.. then i thought I have to clean my hands and face from what fundamentalists do, I get sick and tired of each time setting a parantesis infront of my religios existance to express myself. How can i digest putting a defnceless woman in a Gooni and stone her to dead? even animals don't do that.

                          I wanted to say I am Christian. then i thought I have to clean my hands and face from what Bush and Co, and vatikan, and Mr. Pastor X do and does.

                          I wanted to say I am Jewish.. then i thought I have to clean my hands and face from what Israel does, and so on

                          ... other religions.. well sorry i do not know much about them, so I say as Great Gandhi said once, I belong to all these religions and non of them.

                          Life is an introduction to death. religion is an instrument of life not the aim of life.
                          I ask did religion come for the sake Man, or Man is created for the religion?
                          Did not religion come to be an instrument in the hand of Man? or Man is an instrument in the hand of religion? which one is the object and which one the subject?

                          Religion (s) came to help the Man to find his way back to his origin, like a navigator, a way map, a guide to teach: although you look alike or are an animal
                          but you are not ment to remain an animal through your life and die as an animal.

                          But THEY (mullah, priest, rabai, etc) have turned everything up-side-down. And consequently their aim justifies their mean. So just kill, burn, take away, hang on cranes, stone to death,... and later on wash your hand and stand to pray.

                          Don't tell me I am generalizing, because I am not, but instead just give me a thread, something to hang on. Does your aim justify your mean? Then your are a pimple on the face of religion.

                          Has God send the religion to be an instrument for man or God created Man to become an instrument for religion (in the hand of priests, Rbais or Mullahs)?.

                          So: what i believe on: IN MY HEART is non of ur business. What am I wearing for YOU to watch and judge: is NO Religion.

                          I yet remember the echo of the voice of a sick old man who was repeating in my bliding ears: Hama barayeh Islam! Hamah barayeh Isalam.

                          Peace
                          Last edited by NightOwl; 11-20-2006, 05:38 AM. Reason: dictation
                          YOU! Wake up.

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                          • responce to nightowl
                            in a book by tariq ali "the clash of fundamentalisims" he argues the same thing that religion is just an ancient political party to control people. I dont agree but if you like that stuff check it out



                            i dont even think iran should be one but ahamadinejad likes to think so and tells the world so
                            and most muslim pertymuch go along with it other than disporah iranians
                            infact it is very rare that you see muslims standing up and loudly protasting these theocrocy based governments i am talkng about modarate muslims living out side.
                            this is not political what i am saying it is rare to see muslims protest and distance theme selfs from the hanious inhumane actions of these radical theorocy states because they have given them a bad name or tarnished islam in general.

                            and as for israel and bush well

                            for israel i dono most of their people are secular citizens who only identify with judaisim throgh blood or cultral identity
                            in fact their is a religious jewish movment that is against israel and these orthodox jews

                            and for bush i dono maybe because he is a concervative christian

                            but than you can put all this stuff asaid and draw your inspiration from the good that each one of these relligions have done
                            and their is alot
                            i think especialy modern chritianity more than any with their love based initive to spread christ love, i very much like alot that they do i dont like every second when they try to convert you but i like the fact that throgh this aim they have set up many charity orginization
                            not just local but on a global base
                            from africa to the middle east to aisia
                            Last edited by mike435; 11-30-2006, 10:49 PM. Reason: forgot to put see between you and muslims


                            G-d determines who walks into your life....It is up to you to decide who you let walk away, who you let stay, and who you refuse to let go.


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                            • man mosalmoonam
                              ~ Bahar ~

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                              • religion is poison


                                بگذاز غمت را فرياد كشم هموطن..تا بداني چه ديوانه وار دوستت مي دارم

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