War & Peace In Iraq

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  • Rasputin
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2005
    • 63906

    #1

    War & Peace In Iraq

    The Face of War

    These photos were taken by US military personnel in Fallujah on November 19, 2004. They were taken in order to identify the dead, as well as used to track where the bodies were later buried in Fallujah.

    Of hundreds of photos taken for identification of the dead, I selected these in order to show the face of war. Due to most media outlets in the west continuing to not show the daily horrific images in Iraq-of wounded and dead soldiers, civilians and fighters, I decided to put these on my site.

    I did so because I believe it is important for people to see what war looks like.

    All of these photos taken by the military are of men. An interesting thing, in light of the fact that the Iraqi Red Crescent has announced that conservatively, 60% of the casualties in Fallujah, which are expected to be well over 2,000 people, are women, children, elderly and unarmed civilians.

    I warn you in advance that these are extremely graphic images.

    iran
  • okiddi
    Member
    • Jul 2005
    • 442

    #2
    aah khoda...

    akhe chera....??
    >> Doroste ke inja bozorg shodam man vali khone IRANI to raghame <<

    Az in ghafas, az in zamin mikham beram paar bekesham,
    baraye in hame diavar yek goshei daar bekesham

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    • ProudPersian
      Member
      • Jun 2005
      • 313

      #3
      Well this is war. Just because we don't see it doesn't mean there are no atrocities being commited. War is old men talking and young men dying.

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      • Cop
        Senior Member
        • Jul 2003
        • 6619

        #4
        Originally posted by ProudPersian
        Well this is war. Just because we don't see it doesn't mean there are no atrocities being commited. War is old men talking and young men dying.

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        • Rasputin
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2005
          • 63906

          #5
          Cutting heads according to Quran in Iraq. !!! 18+




          iran

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          • Rasputin
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2005
            • 63906

            #6
            War In Iraq (Iran training Iraqis to use munitions)

            produced by GlobalFreePress.com

            Music by James Blunt

            Lyrics to 'No Bravery'

            About The war in Iraq !


            Watch it here :


            iran

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            • Cop
              Senior Member
              • Jul 2003
              • 6619

              #7
              saddd

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              • Parinaz_M
                Senior Member
                • Mar 2003
                • 19964

                #8
                vaghean adam vaghti en chizaro mibine tamame moohaye badanesh sikh mishe.
                omidvaram ke har che zoodtar vaziyate Iraq dorost beshe, chon faghat mardome bi gonah daran en vasat koshte mishan







                God made Coke,
                God made Pepsi,
                God made Persian girls so DAMN SEXY!!!

                ~Zende Bad Iran Va Irani~

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                • mahsaak
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2005
                  • 4933

                  #9
                  mersy
                  is truth
                  hop never happen to iran
                  always bravery , and no sadness
                  thanks to RED WINE



                  MAHSA














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                  • moonlight79
                    Member
                    • Nov 2005
                    • 1128

                    #10
                    red wine jon to ya mano mikhandoni ya ashkamo dar miari .
                    merc khaste nabashi

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                    • kami joon
                      Senior Member
                      • Dec 2005
                      • 4870

                      #11

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                      • ramin2999

                        #12
                        the ugly face of war

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                        • Rasputin
                          Senior Member
                          • Jan 2005
                          • 63906

                          #13
                          American Hostage Freed in Iraq - by Iran?!?

                          The American Journalist Jill Caroll was finally released after more than 82 days of captivity - in front of the Iraq Islamic Party. She was abducted while on her way to interview a Sunni Arab politician. She said that her captors had treated her well, that she had been fed well and never threatened. “It’s important people know that I was not harmed,” she said .

                          Read it again: abducted on her way to interview a Sunni politician, released in front of the Iraq Islamic Party, treated well? I want to add one more clause: freed two weeks after Iran agreed to negotiate with the US over Iraq's security. Lets not forget our history: in the 1980s, several American citizens were held hostage in Lebanon. This was in the midst of the Iran-Iraq War, and Iran was in dire need of American spare parts for its military. So the Israelis, understanding the political significance of hostages for the American government, suggested selling weapons to Iran in exchange for the release of the hostages. Reagan agreed and authorized the CIA to sell Iran weapons through Israeli dealers, and in exchange, Iran agreed to use its influence over Hezbollah and other Islamic groups in Lebanon in order to get the Americans released: between 1985 and 1986, 44 Americann hostages were released in Lebanon. The whole scandal became known as the Iran-Contra Affair [you can read the full Congressional report on the matter here, although I don't recommend it!].

                          There are two distinct kinds of hostage-taking, the Zarqawi kind, and the Hezbollah kind. Zarqawi slains and murders his hostages in the most brutal fashion; Hezbollah uses them mainly as bargaining chips. Zarqawi's hostage-taking is more ideologic, whereas Hezbollah's is more strategic. This is because Hezbollah had a tangible, practical goal: to drive the Americans and the Israeli's out of Lebanon; whereas, Al-Qaeda and Sunni Wahhabists, from whom Zarqawi draws inspiration, have no such tangible goals: they want to establish an Islamic Empire, to go back to the glory days of the 7th century, to ressurect the "Pure Muhammadan Islam."

                          I think the the story of Jill Caroll's release fits a familiar pattern. Bush and Reagan were both tough talkers on evil-doers and evil empires, yet they both signed backdoor deals with the Bin Ladens and the Islamic Republics of this world; they both faced deep criticism for involving American troops in foreign conflicts, Reagan for the troops in Lebanon, and Bush for his continued occupation of Iraq; both presidents also faced domestic scandals and deficits.

                          Jill Caroll was quickly becoming the symbol of America's failure in Iraq. Who can forget her crying face, the covering of the hair, the humilitation of an American woman at the hands of a gang of Arab men? Images like this are responsible for Bush's miserable ratings - and, ironically, also for the appearance of Iran's nuclear file at the UN Security Council. After all, one of America's biggest beefs with Iran is its support of terrorist organizations. Would you, personally, have any sypmathy for a country's right to nuclear technology if that country supports those who keep such a cute female journalist - journalist for god's sake -hostage for nearly 3 months?

                          The parallels are just too strong. Would we be reading of an Iran-Karbala Affair in 10, 15 years?

                          iran

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                          • mahsaak
                            Senior Member
                            • Dec 2005
                            • 4933

                            #14
                            namanaaaaaaaaaaa?????



                            MAHSA














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                            • Rasputin
                              Senior Member
                              • Jan 2005
                              • 63906

                              #15
                              'Huge rise' in Iraqi death tolls

                              An estimated 655,000 Iraqis have died since 2003 who might still be alive but for the US-led invasion, according to a survey by a US university.
                              The research compares mortality rates before and after the invasion from 47 randomly chosen areas in Iraq.

                              The figure is considerably higher than estimates by official sources or the number of deaths reported in the media.

                              It is vigorously disputed by supporters of the war in Iraq, including US President George W Bush.

                              John Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health (JHBSPH) estimate that the mortality rates have more than doubled since the invasion to overthrow Saddam Hussein, causing an average of 500 deaths a day.

                              I stand by the figure that a lot of innocent people have lost their life... and that troubles me, and it grieves me

                              President George W Bush
                              In the past, Mr Bush has put the civilian death toll in Iraq at 30,000, and hours after details of the latest research were published he dismissed JHBSPH's methodology as "pretty well discredited".

                              The John Hopkins researchers argue their statistical approach is more reliable than counting dead bodies, given the obstacles preventing more comprehensive fieldwork in the violent and insecure conditions of Iraq.

                              "I stand by the figure that a lot of innocent people have lost their life... and that troubles me, and it grieves me," Mr Bush told reporters at the White House.

                              "Six-hundred thousand or whatever they guessed at is just... it's not credible," Mr Bush said.

                              Sharp rise

                              The researchers spoke to nearly 1,850 families, comprising more than 12,800 people in dozens of 40-household clusters around the country.


                              Anti-US insurgents launch daily attacks with civilian casualties
                              Of the 629 deaths they recorded among these families since early 2002, 13% took place in the 14 months before the invasion and 87% in the 40 months afterwards.

                              Such a trend repeated nationwide would indicate a rise in annual death rates from 5.5 per 1,000 to 13.3 per 1,000 - meaning the deaths of some 2.5% of Iraq's 25 million citizens in the last three-and-a-half years.

                              The researchers say that in nearly 80% of the individual cases, family members produced death certificates to support their answers.

                              Reliable data is very hard to obtain in Iraq, where anti-US insurgents and sectarian death squads pose a grave danger to civilian researchers.

                              The survey updates earlier research using the same "cluster" technique which indicated that 100,000 Iraqis had died between the invasion and April 2004 - a figure that was also dismissed by many supporters of the US-led coalition.

                              'Survivor bias'

                              While critics point to the discrepancy between this and other independent surveys (such as Iraq Body Count's figure of 44-49,000 civilian deaths, based on media reports), the Bloomberg School team says its method may actually underestimate the true figure.

                              "Families, especially in households with combatants killed, could have hidden deaths. Under-reporting of infant deaths is a widespread concern in surveys of this type," the authors say.

                              "Entire households could have been killed, leading to survivor bias."

                              The survey suggests that most of the extra deaths - 601,000 - would have been the result of violence, mostly gunfire, and suggests that 31% could be attributable to action by US-led coalition forces.

                              The survey is to be published in a UK medical journal, the Lancet, on Thursday.

                              In an accompanying comment, the Lancet's Richard Horton acknowledges that the 2004 survey provoked controversy, but emphasises that the 2006 follow-up has been recommended by "four expert peers... with relatively minor revisions".

                              iran

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