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  • #46
    exactly
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    • #47
      Originally posted by golgol85 View Post
      all cultures like for their dead to be respected, and everyone likes to think that when their time comes, they will die with dignity and be shown dignity after dying. war does not understand dignity. dead is not dead, i think i would prefer to die in one piece, dont you? the fact is these people, whether they be israelis or lebanese died in war, and showing the horrendous way that they died shows to the world that war is not pretty. why must you run away from the truth of war mike? people die in war, people die horrible deaths, they are disfigured, mangled, and burnt. dont come here and ask for the pretty picture of war cuz there is none. IF you say that israel is right in doing what it does, than be brave enough to look at the carnage on both sides.
      Har chi basheh,alan touyeh Israel,kasi barayeh gousht va morgh nabayad bereh touyeh saf vaiseh va az gorosnegi bemireh touyeh khiaboun !!! alan mah ramezouneh,mardom az grosnegi,na nadaran rouzeh begiran !!! baghieh chizha ham behtareh keh aval adam beh keshvareh khodesh bepardazeh,ba'adan biad az keshvarhayeh digeh irad begireh !

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      • #48
        Originally posted by RedWine View Post
        Har chi basheh,alan touyeh Israel,kasi barayeh gousht va morgh nabayad bereh touyeh saf vaiseh va az gorosnegi bemireh touyeh khiaboun !!! alan mah ramezouneh,mardom az grosnegi,na nadaran rouzeh begiran !!! baghieh chizha ham behtareh keh aval adam beh keshvareh khodesh bepardazeh,ba'adan biad az keshvarhayeh digeh irad begireh !
        what about lebanon? toye lebanon mardom az gorosnegi alan nemimiran? chera ma irooniha inghadr bayad khodkhah bashim ke faghat be fekre keshvare khodemoon bashim, I personally care for any and all human beings, regardless of their race, religion, or cultural background who are in any sort of hardship (being it poverty, be it war, be it lack of healthcare). siamak, harfet aslan rabti be chizi ke man goftam nadasht.

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        • #49
          Originally posted by golgol85 View Post
          what about lebanon? toye lebanon mardom az gorosnegi alan nemimiran? chera ma irooniha inghadr bayad khodkhah bashim ke faghat be fekre keshvare khodemoon bashim, I personally care for any and all human beings, regardless of their race, religion, or cultural background who are in any sort of hardship (being it poverty, be it war, be it lack of healthcare). siamak, harfet aslan rabti be chizi ke man goftam nadasht.
          yea what you are saying is a universal human ideal but it is your people your country who you first owe and then others

          and it is not a matter of being selfish its just a reality

          example if a persian doctor studys in iran it is his moral duty to give back to the country remember for him to become a doctor alot of other people had to sacrifise too and it wast people in israel lebonan or anywere else
          and this applies to every faset of irans people why should persian teen suffer in iran while the government gives monet to a terrorist group that starts a whole cycle of death and destruction i hate the islamic republic
          do you know the islamic republic right now is making more money than shah from oil i think alot more.

          obviously people should help others anytime they can but you should not forget your pioritys
          example a group of jews in america were simoltaniously rasing money for recustruction in lebonan wich i think i acctualy a beutiful thing

          but remeber also there are alot more people who are closer and more able to give to the lebonies and palestinians that persian and iran is.

          yuo know a solution i think is rasing advocasy rather than contributing resources that need to first go to out own people.
          just a thoght
          Last edited by mike435; 09-26-2006, 11:58 PM.


          G-d determines who walks into your life....It is up to you to decide who you let walk away, who you let stay, and who you refuse to let go.


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          • #50
            Originally posted by golgol85 View Post
            what about lebanon? toye lebanon mardom az gorosnegi alan nemimiran? chera ma irooniha inghadr bayad khodkhah bashim ke faghat be fekre keshvare khodemoon bashim, I personally care for any and all human beings, regardless of their race, religion, or cultural background who are in any sort of hardship (being it poverty, be it war, be it lack of healthcare). siamak, harfet aslan rabti be chizi ke man goftam nadasht.
            Khanoum-e aziz.. doust-e Khoub-e man.. Ma (Iraniha) ahdaf-e mohemtari darim keh bayad beheshun bepardazim ! har vaght keshvar-e shoma azad shod az yough va zolm-e akhoundha va daray-e democracy shod, shoma va digaran mitounan dam az komak va azadi baray-e keshvarhayeh digeh bezanan, nah inkeh khodemoun,az goshnegi va zolm va azab bemirim,un vaght bekhahim touyeh syasat-e keshvarhayeh digeh fozouli konim va bishtar moshkel saz bashim ta hal moshkel konim !

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              • #52
                Jewish Success
                In The American Media

                MORTIMER ZUCKERMAN, owner of NY Daily News, US News & World Report and chair of the Conference of Presidents of Major Jewish American Organizations, one of the largest pro-Israel lobbying groups.

                LESLIE MOONVES, president of CBS television, great-nephew of David Ben-Gurion, and co-chair with Norman Ornstein of the Advisory Committee on Public Interest Obligation of Digital TV Producers, appointed by Clinton.

                JONATHAN MILLER, chair and CEO of AOL division of AOL-Time-Warner

                NEIL SHAPIRO, president of NBC News

                JEFF GASPIN, Executive Vice-President, Programming, NBC

                DAVID WESTIN, president of ABC News

                SUMNER REDSTONE, CEO of Viacom, "world's biggest media giant" (Economist, 11/23/2) owns Viacom cable, CBS and MTVs all over the world, Blockbuster video rentals and Black Entertainment TV.

                MICHAEL EISNER, major owner of Walt Disney, Capitol Cities, ABC.

                RUPERT MURDOCH, Owner Fox TV, New York Post, London Times, News of the World (Jewish mother)

                MEL KARMAZIN, president of CBS

                DON HEWITT, Exec. Director, 60 Minutes, CBS

                JEFF FAGER, Exec. Director, 60 Minutes II. CBS

                DAVID POLTRACK, Executive Vice-President, Research and Planning, CBS

                SANDY KRUSHOW, Chair, Fox Entertainment

                LLOYD BRAUN, Chair, ABC Entertainment

                BARRY MEYER, chair, Warner Bros.

                SHERRY LANSING. President of Paramount Communications and Chairman of Paramount Pictures' Motion Picture Group.

                HARVEY WEINSTEIN, CEO. Miramax Films.

                BRAD SIEGEL., President, Turner Entertainment.

                PETER CHERNIN, second in-command at Rupert Murdoch's News. Corp., owner of Fox TV

                MARTY PERETZ, owner and publisher of the New Republic, which openly identifies itself as pro-Israel. Al Gore credits Marty with being his "mentor."

                ARTHUR O. SULZBERGER, JR., publisher of the NY Times, the Boston Globe and other publications.

                WILLIAM SAFIRE, syndicated columnist for the NYT.

                TOM FRIEDMAN, syndicated columnist for the NYT.

                CHARLES KRAUTHAMMER, syndicated columnist for the Washington Post. Honored by Honest Reporting.com, website monitoring "anti-Israel media."

                RICHARD COHEN, syndicated columnist for the Washington Post

                JEFF JACOBY, syndicated columnist for the Boston Globe

                NORMAN ORNSTEIN, American Enterprise Inst., regular columnist for USA Today, news analyst for CBS, and co-chair with Leslie Moonves of the Advisory Committee on Public Interest Obligation of Digital TV Producers, appointed by Clinton.

                ARIE FLEISCHER, Dubya's press secretary.

                STEPHEN EMERSON, every media outlet's first choice as an expert on domestic terrorism.

                DAVID SCHNEIDERMAN, owner of the Village Voice and the New Times network of "alternative weeklies."

                DENNIS LEIBOWITZ, head of Act II Partners, a media hedge fund

                KENNETH POLLACK, for CIA analysts, director of Saban Center for Middle East Policy, writes op-eds in NY Times, New Yorker

                BARRY DILLER, chair of USA Interactive, former owner of Universal Entertainment

                KENNETH ROTH, Executive Director of Human Rights Watch

                RICHARD LEIBNER, runs the N.S. Bienstock talent agency, which represents 600 news personalities such as Dan Rather, Dianne Sawyer and Bill O'Reilly.

                TERRY SEMEL, CEO, Yahoo, former chair, Warner Bros.

                MARK GOLIN, VP and Creative Director, AOL

                WARREN LIEBERFORD, Pres., Warner Bros. Home Video Div. of AOL- TimeWarner

                JEFFREY ZUCKER, President of NBC Entertainment

                JACK MYERS, NBC, chief.NYT 5.14.2

                SANDY GRUSHOW, chair of Fox Entertainment

                GAIL BERMAN, president of Fox Entertainment

                STEPHEN SPIELBERG, co-owner of Dreamworks

                JEFFREY KATZENBERG, co-owner of Dreamworks

                DAVID GEFFEN, co-owner of Dreamworks

                LLYOD BRAUN, chair of ABC Entertainment

                JORDAN LEVIN, president of Warner Bros. Entertainment

                MAX MUTCHNICK, co-executive producer of NBC's "Good Morning Miami"

                DAVID KOHAN, co-executive producer of NBC's "Good Morning Miami"

                HOWARD STRINGER, chief of Sony Corp. of America

                AMY PASCAL, chair of Columbia Pictures

                JOEL KLEIN, chair and CEO of Bertelsmann's American operations

                ROBERT SILLERMAN, founder of Clear Channel Communications

                BRIAN GRADEN, president of MTV entertainment

                IVAN SEIDENBERG, CEO of Verizon Communications

                WOLF BLITZER, host of CNN's Late Edition

                LARRY KING, host of Larry King Live

                TED KOPPEL, host of ABC's Nightline

                ANDREA KOPPEL, CNN Reporter

                PAULA ZAHN, CNN Host

                MIKE WALLACE, Host of CBS, 60 Minutes

                BARBARA WALTERS, Host, ABC's 20-20

                MICHAEL LEDEEN, editor of National Review

                BRUCE NUSSBAUM, editorial page editor, Business Week

                DONALD GRAHAM, Chair and CEO of Newsweek and Washington Post, son of

                CATHERINE GRAHAM MEYER, former owner of the Washington Post

                HOWARD FINEMAN, Chief Political Columnist, Newsweek

                WILLIAM KRISTOL, Editor, Weekly Standard, Exec. Director
                Project for a New American Century (PNAC)

                RON ROSENTHAL, Managing Editor, San Francisco Chronicle

                PHIL BRONSTEIN, Executive Editor, San Francisco Chronicle,

                RON OWENS, Talk Show Host, KGO (ABC-Capitol Cities, San Francisco)

                JOHN ROTHMAN, Talk Show Host, KGO (ABC-Capitol Cities, San Francisco)

                MICHAEL SAVAGE, Talk Show Host, KFSO (ABC-Capitol Cities, San Francisco) Syndicated in 100 markets

                MICHAEL MEDVED, Talk Show Host, on 124 AM stations

                DENNIS PRAGER, Talk Show Host, nationally syndicated from LA. Has Israeli flag on his home page.

                BEN WATTENBERG, Moderator, PBS Think Tank.

                ANDREW LACK, president of NBC

                DANIEL MENAKER, Executive Director, Harper Collins

                DAVID REMNICK, Editor, The New Yorker

                NICHOLAS LEHMANN, writer, the New York

                HENRICK HERTZBERG, Talk of the Town editor, The New Yorker

                SAMUEL NEWHOUSE JR, and DONALD NEWHOUSE own Newhouse Publications, includes 26 newspapers in 22 cities; the Conde Nast magazine group, includes The New Yorker; Parade, the Sunday newspaper supplement; American City Business Journals, business newspapers published in more than 30 major cities in America; and interests in cable television programming and cable systems serving 1 million homes.

                DONALD NEWHOUSE, chairman of the board of directors, Associated Press.

                PETER R KANN, CEO, Wall Street Journal, Barron's

                RALPH J. & BRIAN ROBERTS, Owners, Comcast-ATT Cable TV.

                LAWRENCE KI-RSHBAUM, CEO, AOL-Time Warner Book Group
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                • #53
                  one explanation is media and hollywood was a low class scum of the world thing that no one touched, it was viewed in a very negative way

                  jews being discriminated against in getting jobs in perstigious industry's they turned to hollywood. infact many jews changed their last name so they can succeed. They were the pioniors in the industry

                  that is why most big and oldschool studios were started by jews.
                  Warner, MGM,

                  also the jewish caulture of employing family and cummunity and sence that hollywood is low class made it unatractive for those who had oppertunity, adds greatly to the domination of the industry by jews.

                  most of these people are either originals at their old age

                  or sons nephews of the originals who started in the "mail room" and worked their way up.
                  Last edited by mike435; 09-29-2006, 01:36 AM.


                  G-d determines who walks into your life....It is up to you to decide who you let walk away, who you let stay, and who you refuse to let go.


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                  • #54
                    also it is the out spoken kaleshag jewish mentality


                    also i think education has to do alot with it to

                    for example education system in america incurages creativity and among many things emphisises on phsycology so maybe if you you the physch of people and creativity to it you know how to entertain them.


                    G-d determines who walks into your life....It is up to you to decide who you let walk away, who you let stay, and who you refuse to let go.


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                    • #55
                      Car bomb kills one, wounds five in Rishon Lezion

                      One person was killed and five wounded - two moderately - after a car bomb exploded on the corner of Herzl St. and Hacarmel in Rishon Lezion on Friday. Three others were treated for shock.

                      Police believed the incident was criminally motivated, rather than terror related.

                      According to reports, a series of explosions set the car ablaze in the center of town, killing the driver of the car. An initial investigation identified the driver as an Israeli resident of Ramle who was known to police.

                      Among those lightly wounded were a ten-year-old boy and an infant, ZAKA reported.

                      The wounded were either treated on the scene by Magen David Adom teams or evacuated for treatment.

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                      • #56
                        Some Israel & Jeruslam Facts

                        1. ISRAEL BECAME A STATE IN 1312 B.C., TWO MILLENNIA
                        BEFORE ISLAM;

                        2. ARAB REFUGEES FROM ISRAEL BEGAN CALLING THEMSELVES
                        "PALESTINIANS" IN 1967, TWO DECADES AFTER (MODERN)
                        ISRAELI STATEHOOD;

                        3. AFTER CONQUERING THE LAND IN 1272 B.C., JEWS RULED
                        IT FOR A THOUSAND YEARS AND MAINTAINED A CONTINUOUS
                        PRESENCE THERE FOR 3,300 YEARS;

                        4. THE ONLY ARAB RULE FOLLOWING CONQUEST IN 633 B.C.
                        LASTED JUST 22 YEARS;

                        5. FOR OVER 3,300 YEARS, JERUSALEM WAS THE JEWISH
                        CAPITAL. IT WAS NEVER THE CAPITAL OF ANY ARAB OR
                        MUSLIM ENTITY. EVEN UNDER JORDANIAN RULE, (EAST)
                        JERUSALEM WAS NOT MADE THE CAPITAL, AND NO ARAB LEADER
                        CAME TO VISIT IT;

                        6. JERUSALEM IS MENTIONED OVER 700 TIMES IN THE BIBLE,
                        BUT NOT ONCE IS IT MENTIONED IN THE QUR'AN;

                        7. KING DAVID FOUNDED JERUSALEM; MOHAMMED NEVER SET
                        FOOT IN IT;

                        8. JEWS PRAY FACING JERUSALEM; MUSLIMS FACE MECCA. IF
                        THEY ARE BETWEEN THE TWO CITIES, MUSLIMS PRAY FACING
                        MECCA, WITH THEIR BACKS TO JERUSALEM;

                        9. IN 1948, ARAB LEADERS URGED THEIR PEOPLE TO LEAVE,
                        PROMISING TO CLEANSE THE LAND OF JEWISH PRESENCE. 68%
                        OF THEM FLED WITHOUT EVER SETTING EYES ON AN ISRAELI
                        SOLDIER;

                        10. VIRTUALLY THE ENTIRE JEWISH POPULATION OF MUSLIM
                        COUNTRIES HAD TO FLEE AS THE RESULT OF VIOLENCE AND
                        POGROMS;

                        11. SOME 630,000 ARABS LEFT ISRAEL IN 1948, WHILE
                        CLOSE TO A MILLION JEWS WERE FORCED TO LEAVE THE
                        MUSLIM COUNTRIES;

                        12. IN SPITE OF THE VAST TERRITORIES AT THEIR
                        DISPOSAL, ARAB REFUGESS WERE DELIBERATELY PREVENTED
                        FROM ASSIMILATING INTO THEIR HOST COUNTRIES. OF 100
                        MILLION REFUGEES FOLLOWING WORLD WAR 2, THEY ARE THE
                        ONLY GROUP TO HAVE NEVER INTEGRATED WITH THEIR
                        CORELIGIONISTS. MOST OF THE JEWISH REFUGEES FROM
                        EUROPE AND ARAB LANDS WERE SETTLED IN ISRAEL, A
                        COUNTRY NO LARGER THAN NEW JERSEY;

                        13. THERE ARE 22 MUSLIM COUNTRIES, NOT COUNTING
                        PALESTINE. THERE IS ONLY ONE JEWISH STATE. ARABS
                        STARTED ALL FIVE WARS AGAINST ISRAEL, AND LOST EVERY
                        ONE OF THEM;

                        14. FATAH AND HAMAS CONSTITUTIONS STILL CALL FOR THE
                        DESTRUCTION OF ISRAEL. ISRAEL CEDED MOST OF THE WEST
                        BANK AND ALL OF GAZA TO THE PALESTINIAN AUTHORITY, AND
                        EVEN PROVIDED IT
                        WITH ARMS;

                        15. DURING THE JORDANIAN OCCUPATION, JEWISH HOLY SITES
                        WERE VANDALIZED AND WERE OFF LIMITS TO JEWS. UNDER
                        ISRAELI RULE, ALL MUSLIM AND CHRISTIAN HOLY SITES ARE
                        ACCESSIBLE TO ALL FAITHS;

                        16. OUT OF 175 UNITED NATIONS SECURITY COUNCIL
                        RESOLUTIONS UP TO 1990, 97 WERE AGAINST ISRAEL; OUT OF
                        690 GENERAL ASSEMBLY RESOLUTIONS, 429 WERE AGAINST
                        ISRAEL;

                        18. THE U.N. WAS SILENT WHEN THE JORDANIANS DESTROYED
                        58 SYNAGOGUES IN THE OLD CITY OF JERUSALEM. IT
                        REMAINED SILENT WHILE JORDAN SYSTEMATICALLY DESECRATED
                        THE ANCIENT JEWISH
                        CEMETERY ON THE MOUNT OF OLIVES, AND IT REMAINED
                        SILENT WHEN JORDAN ENFORCED APARTHEID LAWS PREVENTING
                        JEWS FROM ACCESSING THE TEMPLE MOUNT AND WESTERN WALL.


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                        • #57
                          ehm

                          thanx anyway for you opinion and contribution
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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by donsaeid View Post
                            ehm

                            thanx anyway for you opinion and contribution
                            you forgot facts


                            G-d determines who walks into your life....It is up to you to decide who you let walk away, who you let stay, and who you refuse to let go.


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