Human Rights in Iran

[Rasputin]

It's not history, but a forging one. You do copy/paste articles without a source from bias websites. If your intention is really to know Islam, I can provide you links from sublime institutions or authentic universities. 1400 years of history to back it up and libraries full of books. Underestimate if you wish but that would be naive or you are full of hate.

Wassalam

Dear Sir :

If you don't know what is my intention,please ask me before judging me !!!

If you don't like our articles/news and etc.. Don't read them and don't argue with me for what you don't know .

My intention is help to the all iranian ppl .

If somebody wants to know the source of my articles,news and etc... he/can just PM me and i will tell the source .

Thank you again for your colaboration and end of the conversation .

[zubin]

Baradar, Manzouret ro fahmidam, vali agar ham besourat e absolute ma3ni beshe dar gharb baz ham dar tazadde ba Eslam e.

What is their difference if they both believe in something like God-given, absolute rights?

I will try to look at the videos.

Sincerely

[Dokhtar Bandari]

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I just saw this thread, you threatened "Qalibaf's" internet anonymity to be shown to others. Don't abuse your Mod-status, Strike us intellectually.

Right off bat you are mixing apples and oranges, Islam is not a nation but a religion, intellectually you can not compare a collective Western "civilization" with a particular "religion", 2 different boundaries of argument. Please explain your "singularity of existence" if we are to stay on topic of Islam. As I understand Singularity of Existence; which by the way is a NASA term; is a Prim Intellect which is really a couple of laws put together which has no short or long term goals to define a reason for existence, it has no imperial ethical system except of those immediate human desires. If that is your explanation of Islam...then I think we need to open a new thread.

I do not see a problem with cut and pate, its in a quotation which means its an acceptable form of explanation by majority, of course Muslims may in their "singularity of existence" refute any and all explanations. I will be using more and if you don't like it...tough. Khahesh mikonam latt bazi dar niareed, its beneath you.

Sir, I have made my position in all of my arguments clear that my main concern is with Iran and its people. No matter how vile I think Islam has been made by Muslims and how you have made Allah in your own image and have used him to get away with well basically murder. I DO NOT CARE...I only care about Iran at this time. It is true that I am a Human Rights activist and work closely with United Nation, but it is not true that I look for executions in Iran or any other place in this God given earth. I am for unity of mankind and brotherhood of all...however, in the path of my journey I do get to see some pretty unjust and grossom acts and ironically mostly committed by Moslem's. I just don't want Moslem's to rule Iran, Iranian people should be free of oppression of any religion. If it was Christians that were doing the crime in Iran, I will be after them I guarantee you. Be a Muslim but don't tell everyone else that they have to be one too. God did not tell you that is the way...Man told you. Look within your conscious and question your orders, familiarize yourself with the book that you swear on, because in the next discussion I will bring you soreh after soreh and I will ask you to tell me which one is abrogated and which one is abrogating and what do they mean?

Islam recognizes..Hazrate Adam, Hazrate Ebrahim, Hazrate Mosa, Hazrate Essa va Hazrate Mohamad, I am sure you are in agreement with that. Basically we are all children of Adam...do you not think that somewhere you are connected to a person lets say in England or France or China? Do you consider yourself separate from the rest? If your answer is no then how come in the name of God you can pick a sword against your brothers and sisters? How can you in good conscious oppress people and try to impose your beliefs on them or else they die? What is the difference between you and Spanish Inquisitors? (lol except the name inquisitor)

Religion is a man made rules not a god given laws. God is a spirit that lives within each and every one of us. Why must you make a mockery out of him? All the messengers of God, all the guiding books that claim are words of God call for loving our brothers and sisters...Why do you want a basic universal law?

Our differences of opinion ought not to be construed as a hateful propaganda. Keep your pase sir and let me do the same. My reality does not include an Islamic Iran, yours does...so where do we go from here? should we kill each other? should we live apart from those we love and things that we cherish with our hearts and soul? Or should we cultivate our differences and teach our children to be better and do better and enjoy the free air (courtesy of God not Islam) and build a better earth. Life finds a way to survive, humanity will live as it has for eons, as human we can be a part of the growth or the destruction and that is the only freedom we have. God lives and expands through us, lets cherish that instead of destroying it.

Please leave Iran alone...your 30 year contract is up!!!!!!!!!!!!!! They will not renew, because we won't let them. So shoooooo..yala yala.

[mike435]

Originally Posted by Inquisitor
And you speak of human rights! Talk has become cheap.

There are millions of Iranians ready for a simple command of supreme leader seyyed Ali Khamenei to die for the cause and you talk about deportation and the thugs! Bah, those who pray day/night and ask Allah (swt) to give them martyrdom are totally free of earth! Their only desire is to serve Allah (swt), and that motivation is so high that it renders everything else unimportant. You're dealing with a nation whose philosophy is based on the “singularity of existence” which is 100% fundamentally in contradiction to the western philosophies which are founded upon the “duality of logic”.

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I just saw this thread, you threatened "Qalibaf's" internet anonymity to be shown to others. Don't abuse your Mod-status, Strike us intellectually.


YOu see this is why your brand of islam pisses me off and i think violates human rights

the fact that people are ready for myrtordom this is sick
their are a billion muslims out ther 10 percent think this way
that 100 million muslims who are ready to be myrtors for al-h

do you know how insane that is that meant their are 100 million people who want to kill becuase remember a myrtor has to take someone with theme

that mean 200 million people atleast will have to go off the face of this earth just so you can practice your brand of islam

100 mil the myrtors and another 100 the victoms

i think it is insane to applude kiiling self
thier is nothing g-dly in killing oneself

[mike435]

and inquisiter when you say islam is not about conquest
what did they do to iran and spain and africa
islam is doinf right now by rapping people
look how isane and aggressive it is
if a muslim rapes a woman the chiled will be a muslim

becuase of this in sudan they are rapping the africans so they can ethnicly cleans theme

[mike435]

also inquisister regarding your brothers and the imposed war

off the bat what they did was very honoable, to fight against an agreesor and in defense of ones country requiers bravery and honor

but also remember the fact that when iran was beating the iraqies and had over taken theme they did not stop and kept on going and wanted to invade iraq wich they did
and when they did they just draged the war on and on and only killed people on both sides

so i dont think the actions of IRI was very honorable anycountry any government will defend their land
shah would have done the same
the important thing is wether or not you persu peac which IRI did not
for no reason they murdured more iranians khomaini did that

[Dokhtar Bandari]

Mike, I just want to thank you for your inputs. Good, bad or indifference I appreciate your participation.

[mike435]

thanks

[mike435]

you know maybe its the alcohol talking but the fact is regardless of Iran, more than ever both in the history of time and human history there is more good and g-dly ness in this world

I mean it is unbelievable I think we should take that as a good sigh
I mean today more people than ever are eating and have a home
today imperial actions are not tolerated
today if the actions that 50 years ago would have gone unpunished are severely condemd






today we are here talking about human rights average people are doing this never before in the history of time have some many people done this

and true even though the inspiration is selfish and self satisfying the fact is that because of capitalism people have jobs and more people are eating

the point of this is we complain and bitchh so much that we loose sight of the goodness that is going on in this world


but none the less I think I am coming to the conclusion that "my" way of thinking and looking at society is superior to fanatic Islam

my way of thinking give choice to woman and men equally
and choice is the essence of human right
choice is what makes life worthwhile