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  • Rasputin
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2005
    • 63906

    #91
    The realpolitik of this part of the world is that the US and Britain badly need Iran's cooperation. They need it to get out of Iraq, and somehow to police the collapse and partition of that benighted country. They have no need of new enemies. So when Ahmadinejad, at whoever's instigation, writes a letter inviting talks, it is a good idea to reply. If it is bluff, it is bluff worth calling. The present shouting match is megaphone appeasement, as would be a bomb attack on Iran's factories. The hawkish route to disarmament and regime change - if such is the goal - can only be through constructive engagement.

    There is, of course, one thing that Britain and America could do that would wholly disorientate Ahmadinejad and have him rushing troops to his borders. It would be a sudden end to the occupation of Iraq and Afghanistan. Such a decision would remove at a stroke the running theme of Iranian militancy. It would saddle Tehran with two unstable neighbours whose insurgents and revanchists would cause it, its allies and its surrogates no end of trouble. After a bit of initial crowing the next Iraq will be Ahmadinejad's nightmare. Unfortunately such a step seems too clever by half for the west's present leadership.

    iran

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    • Rasputin
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2005
      • 63906

      #92
      Bush: Iran Letter Doesn't Answer Question

      President Bush says a lengthy letter from Iran's leader doesn't answer the question the world is asking, which is: "When will you get rid of your nuclear program?"

      The president made his first public comment on the letter from Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad in a session with reporters from several Florida newspapers in Orlando.

      The president tells reporters that the U.S. and other nations are in agreement that Iran shouldn't have a nuclear weapon or the capacity to make one. But he says the letter didn't address that question.

      Yesterday, the president said he's confident diplomacy will work with Iran, although the U.N. Security Council hasn't reached agreement yet on a measure to deal with Iran's nuclear program.

      Meanwhile, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said Wednesday that a new proposal that European diplomats will soon present to Iran makes plain the international cost of going forward with disputed nuclear development.

      Rice acknowledged that any attempt to punish or coerce Iran through the United Nations Security Council is on hold while Britain, France and Germany renew diplomatic efforts to persuade Iran to back down.

      "Iran knows that there are two options that have been there all along. They can have a civilian nuclear program that is appropriate and that the international community can support, or they can face isolation," Rice told reporters in Washington.

      iran

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      • Rasputin
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2005
        • 63906

        #93
        Iran Leader Dismisses Nuke Program Worries

        Iran's president on Wednesday dismissed Western concerns over its nuclear program as "a big lie," a day after key U.N. Security Council members agreed to present Tehran with a choice of incentives or sanctions in deciding whether to suspend uranium enrichment.

        Meanwhile, in a letter to Time magazine published on its Web site, a representative of Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei offered new options for solving the impasse with the United States and its allies.

        Hassan Rohani, Iran's former top nuclear negotiator, said Tehran would consider ratifying an International Atomic Energy Agency protocol that provides for intrusive and snap inspections and would also address the question of preventing a pullout from the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty.

        Sean McCormack, the State Department spokesman, says of the Time magazine letter, "We've seen it. ... I think there really isn't anything new in it." He said the letter does not deal at all with enrichment.

        The current Iranian negotiator, Ali Larijani, said Tuesday that Tehran had no intention of withdrawing from the treaty and promised to cooperate if the U.N. atomic watchdog agency, rather than the Security Council, dealt with the issue of its nuclear program.

        Iran ended all voluntary cooperation with the IAEA in February, including allowing snap inspections of its nuclear facilities.

        Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad told reporters Wednesday in Indonesia's capital that Iran will "absolutely not back out" of defending its right to pursue new technology, accusing the United States and other Western nations of monopolizing the nuclear technology market to secure profits while engaging in non-peaceful proliferation.

        "They pretend that they are concerned about the nature of the nuclear program of the Islamic republic of Iran," he said after meeting with Indonesian President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono. "This is a big lie."

        "Today the people of Iran are not just defending their own rights, but also those of other nations," he said. "They (the United States and other Western powers) want to prevent other countries from reaching the pinnacle of science and technology."

        At a meeting Tuesday, representatives of the United States, Russia, China, Britain and France as well as Germany agreed to tell Iran the possible consequences of its refusal to halt its enrichment program and the benefits if it abandons it.

        The move will delay a U.S.-backed draft U.N. resolution that could lead to sanctions and possible military action if Iran does not suspend uranium enrichment.

        U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said Wednesday she and her counterparts on the U.N. Security Council agreed to give Iran another two weeks to reconsider its position.

        "We agreed to continue to seek a Security Council resolution but that we would wait for a couple of weeks while the Europeans design an offer to the Iranians that would make clear they have a choice that would allow them to have a civil nuclear program, if that is indeed what they want," Rice said on U.S. TV network ABC's "Good Morning America."

        The Chinese and Russians have balked at the British, French and U.S. efforts to put the resolution under Chapter 7 of the U.N. Charter. Such a move would declare Iran a threat to international peace and security and set the stage for further measures if Tehran refuses to comply. Those measures could range from breaking diplomatic relations to economic sanctions and military action.

        Representatives from the three European countries that had been spearheading negotiations with Iran — Britain, France and Germany — will now spend the next few days preparing a package of incentives and sanctions, a European official said, speaking on condition of anonymity because there has been no official announcement.

        The official said the package is likely to include issues related to energy security and civilian nuclear power. The package will be presented to European Union foreign ministers on the sidelines of an EU meeting in Brussels on Monday, and if approved will be presented to the Iranian government, the official said.

        The United States accuses Iran of seeking to develop nuclear weapons, a charge Tehran denies, saying it aims only to generate energy.

        iran

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        • Rasputin
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2005
          • 63906

          #94
          Third camp
          Iranians and the nuclear issue

          Ever since the escalation of tension between Islamic Republic of Iran (IRI) and the west over Iran’s nuclear program I have tried to follow this issue among the Iranian community abroad. Since the revolution of 1979 not one topic has become as controversial among the Iranian Diaspora as the subject of Iran’s nuclear activities. This paper tries to look at both sides of this issue and propose a third option that can help us to come up with a viable solution out of it.

          On this issue I have come up with two different views. On one side, are the Iranians of different political ideology who are against the IRI and the other side are those who see this purely from a nationalistic point of view.

          The anti IRI Camp
          This camp includes the supporters of the Mujahedeen Khalgh (MEK), pro-monarchists, and independent organizations. unfortunately due to their one sided view of opposition to the Islamic Republic, they in essence have fallen into the trap of the neo-cons in America in that Iran-due to it’s view of the world and how it has behaved must never achieve the N-Weapon and that Iran can not be trusted, no matter what it says. They in reality, knowingly or unknowingly, are advocating regime change by others, since they can not do it on their own.

          Nationalistic Camp
          This camp includes some elements of those that are against IRI as well as those who are pure nationalists. Their argument is that it is irrelevant of how Iran behaves internally (IRI human rights and lack of democracy) but rather the number one issue is the threat of the US on Iran. According to them west can not dictate to Iran what it can and can not possess. This camp has in essence become the mouthpiece of the various groups that are anti-imperialist, anti-Zionist and pro-IR. When it comes to the topic of nuclear technology and potential attack by the US, they ignore the abhorring conditions within Iran and stick to the latter.

          Third Camp
          I think there is a middle ground to all these debates. While absolutely being against the IRI you can also be against the Western country policy on this topic and you don’t have to fall into either of the above camps.

          As far as I am concerned I have as much trust in President Ahmadinejad as I have of President Bush; which is zero. I think what we are facing are two extreme right wings elements within each country.

          For President Ahmadinejad, an attack by the US will gather the population around it, since they all are against an attack on their soil by any foreign country and for Bush, since it is getting too close to the elections and since his numbers are down he needs the people to support the government during a time of war.

          What I propose is to oppose the Islamic Republic against its handling of internal issues, while at the same time, be against any attacks on Iran. Unfortunately it appears that both sides feed on tension and we should help alleviate it. We should push for a direct and transparent talk between Iran and the United States and welcome a potential normalization of the ties. We should let the US and the rest of the world know that any regime change in Iran, must be done by the Iranians and the only support we need is moral support not financial or military.

          Unfortunately since the issue of the nuclear activities has come into forefront, the condition of human rights has been put on the backburner.

          One good example is the arrest of Dr. Ramin Jahanbegloo. He has been in prison for two weeks now and I do not see the same level of anxiety and activism that I saw when we were demanding the release of Akbar Ganji.

          I just hope that one day we don’t hear that he like Zahra Kazemi, another Iranian-Canadian, die in prison and we didn’t do anything about it.

          iran

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          • donsaeid
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2005
            • 28300

            #95
            تا آخر هم خواهيم ايستاد



            رئيس جمهور در جلسه پرسش و پاسخ دانشجويان اندونزي با اشاره به فعاليت هسته‌اي ايران گفت:ما در اين زمينه ايستاده‌ايم و تا آخر هم خواهيم ايستاد.


            محمود احمدي نژاد كه ظهر امروز پنج شنبه به وقت محلي در جمع دانشجويان و اساتيد دانشگاه اندونزي سخن مي‌گفت،در پاسخ به سوال يك دانشجوي دختر رشته انرژي اين دانشگاه مبني بر اين كه آيا ايران از فعاليت هسته‌اي خود استراتژي بلند مدت دارد و يا اين كه صرفاً قصد دارد تا فقط انرژي خود را تامين كند گفت:در يك نگاه به جهان پي خواهيم برد كه زرادخانه‌هاي كشورهاي داراي سلاح‌هاي هسته‌اي از سلاح‌هاي ميكروبي،شيميايي و هسته‌اي پر شده و هر جا بخواهند جنگ راه مي‌اندازند و حتي برخي كشورهاي منطقه را به سلاح هسته‌اي مجهز كردند.
            احمدي نژاد با طرح اين سوال كه چرا آنها با فعاليت صلح‌آميز ايران مخالفت مي‌كنند،گفت: آيا آنها نگران انحراف فعاليت صلح‌آميز هستند؟ آيا آنها نگران سلاح هسته‌اي هستند؟ آيا آنها نگران توسعه‌ سلاح‌ها هستند؟ آنها دروغ مي‌گويند، چرا كه عمل آنها اين را اثبات مي‌كند.
            رئيس جمهور با بيان اين كه آنها هر روز يك سلاح جديد آزمايش و ملت‌ها را با سلاح هسته‌اي تهديد مي‌كنند،افزود: چطور ممكن است كه آنها با سلاح هسته‌اي مخالف باشند و در عوض اين اقدامات را انجام دهند.
            احمدي نژاد به تجهيز اسرائيل به سلاح هسته‌اي اشاره كرد و يادآور شد: همين امر نشان مي‌دهد كه آنها مخالف سلاح هسته‌اي نيستند.
            وي با طرح اين پرسش كه آنها با چه چيزي مخالف هستند؟گفت: آنها مي‌خواهند علم و فناوري در اختيار و انحصار آنها باشد و در واقع آنها با پيشرفت علمي ملت‌هايي همچون ايران و اندونزي مخالف هستند.
            به گفته وي، آنها از ابزار علم و فناوري براي تحميل خواسته‌هاي خود استفاده مي‌كنند.
            رئيس جمهور با طرح اين سوال كه چرا جمهوري اسلامي ايران قصد دارد تا از انرژي هسته‌اي بهره‌مند شود؟ گفت: فناوري توليد سوخت هسته‌اي يكي از پيشرفته‌ترين فناوري روز دنياست كه بالاترين حد علوم را همچون علوم فيزيك، شيمي، مواد‌ و متالوژي، رياضيات، مكانيك و ساير علوم را در خود دارد و هر كشوري كه بخواهد به قله‌هاي پيشرفت برسد بايداين فن‌آوري را در اختيار خود داشته باشد.
            احمدي نژاد با بيان اين كه هر ملتي كه از حقوق قانوني خود عقب نشيني كند،حتماً به ذلت وابستگي گرفتار مي‌شود، خاطرنشان كرد: ايستادگي ملت ما در واقع ايستادگي براي حفظ استقلال ماست. ما خودمان تشخيص مي‌دهيم كه چگونه زندگي كنيم و از چه انرژي استفاده كنيم و در اين زمينه از كسي دستور نمي‌گيريم.
            احمدي نژاد دفاع از حقوق ديگر ملت‌ها را علت ديگر ايستادگي ملت ايران دانست و يادآور شد: ملت ايران امروز در خط مقدم است و نه تنها از حقوق خود بلكه از حقوق همه ملت‌ها دفاع مي‌كند. آنها مي‌دانند اگر ملت ايران از اين گردنه عبور كند عبور از اين گردنه براي ديگر كشورها آسان خواهد شد،بنابراين ما امروز از حقوق همه ملت‌ها دفاع مي‌كنيم.
            رئيس جمهور افزود:ايران مصمم است ظرف 10 سال آينده 20 هزار مگاوات برق هسته‌اي توليد كند. بنابراين بايد در اين زمينه سرمايه‌گذاري كنيم.
            رئيس جمهور در پاسخ به استاد دانشكده فرهنگ و هنر دانشگاه اندونزي كه با توجه به روابط بسيار خوب ايران و اندونزي در گذشته، خواستار ارتقا و تقويت اين روابط شده بود، گفت: ما اندونزي را يك كشور قدرتمند،‌برادر و دوست خود مي‌دانيم و ان‌شاءالله با رفت و آمد شما دانشجويان و اساتيد،دوران ارتباط خوب فرهنگي زنده مي‌شود.
            احمدي نژاد در پاسخ به سوال دانشجوي رشته الكترونيك اين دانشگاه مبني بر اين كه آيا در آينده اين امكان وجود دارد كه دانشگاه اندونزي در زمينه تحقيقات هسته‌اي با ايران همكاري داشته باشد؟گفت: در اين سفر يك سند همكاري علمي و تحقيقاتي بين دو كشور امضاء شد و من معتقدم نقطه تمركز همكاري علمي روي فناوري نو از جمله فن‌آوري هسته‌اي خواهد بود.
            احمدي نژاد در پاسخ به سوال ديگر اين دانشجو كه پرسيده بود آيا شما براي متحد كردن رهبران كشورهاي اسلامي پيشنهاد خاصي داريد؟ گفت: اين موضوع قابل بحث و بررسي است.
            وي در پاسخ به يك دانشجوي رشته روابط بين‌الملل دانشگاه اندونزي مبني بر اينكه شما چه نصيحتي به مخالفان فعاليت هسته‌اي ايران داريد؟ گفت: ما اعلام كرديم كه خواهان رابطه با كشورها و صلح و آرامش براي همه هستيم. اگر بخواهيم با آنها گفت‌وگو كنيم،‌نصيحت مي‌كنم تا از اين كارهاي خود دست بردارند.
            احمدي نژاد افزود: ما رابطه يكسال خود با كشور دوست و برادر اندونزي را با هزار سال رابطه با كشورهاي غربي عوض نمي‌كنيم.
            سپس يكي از دانشجويان دختر كارشناسي ارشد رشته خاورميانه با زبان فارسي كه خود را فاطمه معرفي كرد ضمن خوش‌آمدگويي خطاب به رئيس جمهور گفت: شما در مقابل آمريكا شجاع هستيد.
            اين دانشجو سپس به رئيس جمهور گفت: دانشجويي هستم كه در حال نوشتن تز كارشناسي ارشد خود تحت عنوان نهضت عاشورا و تاثير آن بر نهضت‌هاي جهان هستم. آيا امكان دارد كه اينجانب در ايران حضور يابم و تز خود را با استفاده از كتب ايراني به اتمام برسانم؟
            احمدي نژاد در پاسخ به اين دانشجو گفت: سخنراني خوب فاطمه خانم به اندازه دو بورسيه تحصيلي مي‌ارزد،‌رئيس دانشگاه اندونزي شما را به سفير معرفي كند و سفير ما در اندونزي نامه‌اي در اين رابطه خواهد نوشت و بورسيه شما حل خواهد شد.
            جلسه پرسش و پاسخ احمدي نژاد با دانشجويان دانشگاه اندونزي در فضاي دوستانه برگزار شد و دانشجويان به همراه اساتيد خود با احمدي نژاد عكس‌هاي يادگاري گرفتند همچنين تعدادي از دانشجوياني كه موفق شدند سوالات خود را از احمدي نژاد مطرح كنند قبل از طرح سوال خود طي سخناني ضمن اعلام حمايت از سياست‌هاي احمدي نژاد خواستار ادامه فعاليت هسته‌اي ايران شدند
            نه غزه نه لبنان جانم فدای ایران


            «در زندگی زخم*هايی هست که مثل خوره روح را آهسته در انزوا می*خورد و می*تراشد.»
            صادق هدايت؛ بوف کور

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            • Rasputin
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2005
              • 63906

              #96
              The letter by President Ahmadinejad to President Bush generated a lot of speculations both inside Iran and in the outside world. It was the first time that a leader of the Islamic Republic had directly written to the leader of the “Great Satan”, and used polite terminologies in addressing them. At home, the reformists welcomed it as a breakthrough in the long-standing estrangement between the two governments, while the conservative press hailed it as a grand gesture on par with letters sent out some fourteen centuries ago by the Prophet Mohammad to leaders of the then empires inviting them to the bosoms of Islam. The latter group knew more about the Islamic President than the formers, and their judgements must be nearer to the truth. Ahmadinejad seems to be on a Messianic mission to save the world.

              The Islamic Republic President appeals to the religious sentiments of President Bush, and in religious texts finds a common language to talk to him. He reminds him of the follies of the Americans past and present and puts America in the duck for many of the ills of the world. He advises him that “democracy and liberalism” have failed the humankind and invites him to join “people of the world” by submitting to the truth. He is there to offer him salvation. At the same time, he warns him of the consequences for people who do not follow the right path. He ends his 18-page letter by the words “will of God will prevail over all things” in order to remind the leader of the most powerful nation in the world that some other forces are in action and that he better watch himself lest he finds himself in the wrong camp.

              That the letter has been dismissed by its addressee is not of much concern to its writer. It is said that when messengers delivered the Prophet Mohammad’s letter to the leader of the Persian Empire it was dealt with contempt. Soon afterwards, the Empire was trembling under the feet of Moslem soldiers, and then it was history. It appears that Mr. Ahmadinejad is on a similar mission. His meteoric rise to power and unparalleled fame on the world stage has given him a sense of importance and relevance not enjoyed by any his predecessors. And his belief in the imminent appearance of the Shi’ah’s Hidden Imam has given him a sense of urgency to pursue his noble aims with speed and not to be afraid of infidel powers on earth. For him, the Islamic Republic of Iran is the manifestation of divine power on earth and he has the mission to make it the pivotal centre of the Islamic world and the vanguard of the battle of truth against untruth.

              The confident tone present throughout the letter, and which is a characteristic of Ahmadinejad’s public utterings too, belies the absurdity of his mission and the paradigms of his references. He apparently believes in what he is saying, and says them with total conviction. Even those who do not understand Persian may be able to detect his tone of confidence in delivering his speeches. In diplomatic circles too, he has no qualms in expressing his thoughts bluntly and forcefully, and he seems to enjoy fully doing it too!

              Or at least that’s what appears to be on the surface. Indeed, while the letter is addressed to President Bush, its real audience may be the disadvantaged and disillusioned Moslems around the world. Mr. Ahmadinejad is trying to cast himself amongst Moslems as the latter-day Saladin and ready to take on the leaders of the world infidels by their horns. At the time that the standing of America and Israel are at their lowest amongst the disillusioned Moslems, it is very convenient for him to be overtly anti-American and anti-Israel. And the more confident and bold he is in his utterings and rebuffs of the West, the more he will score in that huge constituency. The letter may indeed be yet another means in his disposal to prove his credentials for leading the Moslem world in its historic battle against the western “crusaders”. And the evidences suggest that he may be winning in this strategy.

              In Iran, he has managed to turn the question of nuclear energy into a national issue and raise the national pride in its defence. Today many Iranians have bought his thesis that the West is against Iran acquiring nuclear technology know-how for civilian use. In order to do that, he has portrayed himself as a born-again nationalist following the footsteps of Mossaddegh the hero of the oil nationalisation movement in 1950’s. Similarly, he has put on the mantle of anti-Americanism and anti-Israelism for the benefit of the Moslem world. Contrary to the common perception, the latter strategy does not have much appeal inside Iran. But it does have a powerful echo in the post 9/11 Moslem societies, and in the eyes of many may turn Ahmadinejad into an Islamic hero. And so, Ahmadinejad is trying to model himself after Mossaddegh on the national level and after Saladin on the regional and international level.

              In perusing this strategy, while following his nuclear ambitions, Ahmadinejad is not much afraid of their repercussions in terms of military attacks by Americans and/or the Israelis. Indeed, he may be trying to provoke them into it. He is calculating that there is no appetite for a full-scale invasion of Iran a la Afghanistan and Iraq (that is unfeasible and would spell a catastrophe far bigger than what happened in Iraq). And as far as he is concerned, any form of attack will strengthen the Islamic Republic, leave him and his masters in power, and it may also raise his status in the Islamic world (though the reaction of the Iranians may be quite different). In such a scenario he thinks that he will have the opportunity to take revenge against the Americans and other western powers involved in the attack using the Islamic Republic’s many agents around the world. In that regard, he sees himself and the Islamic Republic as the eventual winner.

              And so as the international crisis over the Islamic Republic’s nuclear program worsens, Mr. Ahmadinejad is continuing with his grand gestures of defiance and brinkmanship to the very limit. And he finds eager listeners for what he is saying across the Moslem world – from university students in Jakarta to hezbollah fighters in Lebanon. It is only a matter of time before the crisis gets out of hand and a full confrontation between Iran and the West/Israel follows. The only thing that may realistically prevent that happening is a change in the Iranian leadership/regime, initiated by Iranians themselves, that sees Ahmadinejad out of power and a more sensible and transparent foreign policy in place. At the same time it should be said that any military attack against Iran not only will have disastrous effects on the population, but it would also strengthen the Islamic Republic regime (at least in the short term), weaken the democratic opposition, and unleash a new wave of terrorism around the world.

              iran

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              • Sepideh_UK
                Senior Member
                • May 2006
                • 2226

                #97
                !!!LOOL!!!
                I seriusly can't say much!!!
                shame on some ppl !!


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                • Rasputin
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2005
                  • 63906

                  #98
                  استعفاي گروهي از محافظان احمدي نژاد، فردا
                  گروهي از محافظان محمود احمدي نژاد رئيس جمهوري در اعتراض به شرايط سخت كاري خود، استعفا كرده اند.

                  يك منبع مطلع با اعلام اين خبر به خبرنگار «فردا» گفت كه دليل استعفاي اين محافظان شرايط سختي است كه در دولت جديد براي آنها بوجود آمده است.

                  به گفته وي، در دوره جديد ميزان مزاياي شغلي محافظان رئيس جمهور نسبت به محافظان رئيس جمهور سابق كاهش يافته اما كار آنها بشدت افزايش يافته است.

                  بر اساس اظهارات محافظان رئيس جمهور، حجم فعاليتهاي آقاي احمدي نژاد و بويژه سفرهاي زياد وي به شهرهاي مختلف كشور، كار محافظان را دوچندان كرده است.
                  از سوي ديگر گفته مي‌شود احمدي نژاد به رعايت موارد حفاظتي و امنيتي چندان پايبند نيست و در برنامه ها و سفرهاي خود بي محابا به ميان مردم مي رود و استرس محافظانش را كه نگران جان وي هستند افزايش مي دهد.

                  حتي گفته مي شود، بي توجهي رئيس جمهور به رعايت موارد حفاظتي در حدي است كه وي در تعطيلات نوروز بدون محافظ به همراه خانوده سوار بر خودروي شخصي اش به منزل برادرش در شهرك شهيد محلاتي رفته است

                  iran

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                  • Rasputin
                    Senior Member
                    • Jan 2005
                    • 63906

                    #99
                    Answering Ahmadinejad

                    May 13, 2006

                    Dear President Ahmadinejad,

                    Sir, you recently sent an 18-page letter to your American counterpart, the first such missive the U.S. government has received from your country since the 1979 Islamic revolution. Your government spokesmen said it suggested "new solutions" to the nuclear crisis that your continued enrichment of uranium has provoked.

                    While it is a godsend for those who desperately seek out long, rambling dissertations on history, religion, philosophy and bizarre Sept. 11 conspiracy theories, new solutions are hard to find in it. Perhaps we missed a page.

                    Some people do suggest that it is an opening of sorts, an opportunity to start a conversation. So, since it is unlikely that you will receive an official reply from the U.S. government, please allow us to respond.

                    At the beginning of your letter, you ask President Bush, "can one be a follower of Jesus Christ ... but at the same time, have countries attacked; the lives, reputations and possessions of people destroyed. ... My basic question is this: Is there no better way to interact with the rest of the world?"

                    Good question, though your threat to wipe Israel off the map, to "annihilate" it in a "single storm," doesn't suggest a better model. That sounds more like the announcement of a target for the nuclear weapons you say you don't want to build.

                    About your nuclear ambitions. You ask, "in what other point in history has scientific and technical progress been a crime?"

                    You miss the point. Please read the latest International Atomic Energy Agency report on your country's decades of lies and obfuscation over your nuclear program. Read any of the last several reports, dating back a few years, which provide chapter and verse on a secret program that cannot be, as you claim, just for peaceful nuclear power. Your boasts of uranium enrichment, your hints of a secret program that would speed Iran's ability to build nukes, your country's stonewalling of international inspectors and your brushing aside of European and Russian proposals to defuse the crisis and allow you to have the nuclear power you profess to want leads to only one conclusion. You want nuclear weapons.

                    You wrote that "liberalism and Western style democracy have not been able to help realize the ideals of humanity. Today these two concepts have failed. Those with insight can already hear the sounds of the shattering and fall of the ideology and thoughts of the liberal democratic systems."

                    You seem to be channeling Lenin, Stalin and Khrushchev. You do seem to adhere to a famous quote attributed to Josef Stalin: "Those who cast the votes decide nothing. Those who count the votes decide everything." The mullahs who lead your country have ruthlessly suppressed human rights, freedom and democracy. Most reform candidates were swept off the ballot in 2004 elections. The rest of the world is not fooled.

                    The Nobel Peace Prize laureate Shirin Ebadi, an Iranian reformer, recently visited the Tribune. She reported that your regime continues with a vengeance to repress women, imprison political foes, silence the press and intimidate all who attempt to speak out. The young, who dominate the population, are overwhelmingly in favor of reform, but have grown fearful and apathetic. "The number who want reform has not decreased," Ebadi says. "It is getting larger day by day. People are unsatisfied with the situation, with unemployment, and inflation and high prices and lack of freedom."

                    In their discontent, President Ahmadinejad, you hear not some fanciful demise of democracy, but quite possibly the demise of ... you.

                    Write again soon.

                    iran

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                    • Rasputin
                      Senior Member
                      • Jan 2005
                      • 63906

                      #100
                      It is really quite ironic to finally see an American admit to "Thinking Outside the Iran Box" (Jim Hoagland in the Washington Post). Blimey, for how long have all of us, who live outside US, have said about the US's two-faced policies with the mullahs. All the US Treasury Department has to do, is to act on the info it has, and bingo the mullahs are out. A list of all the companies that do business with the US and Iran is readily available. All the US Treasury needs to do is to give a warning to those companies about doing business with the Islamists in Iran.

                      Back to the future
                      But let's just go back to the moment when the Shahanshah left Iran. He was deemed to be a threat to the world, because he was developing his military too quickly to the future. At that time Israel and the Arabs thought just like now, that the nuclear technology will get out of hand. Suddenly the world media lost all memory of Iran program to jump into the future. Now here was a country that had decided to get out of the medieval times.

                      Mad in Iran
                      So look beyond the Shahs, Mullahs or Whoever. The fact is that this is the 21st Century version of conquering a country. Keep the people of the country bemused by silly political showmanship. One day it is Shah and Carter, then it is Bush and Ahmadinejad. What does it matter? Keep the people in Iran mad. Get them all caught up with some dogma that will keep them isolated, but more importantly, such that they are seen as mad. The last thing that the US wants is for Iran to return to "good old times of the Shah". Can you imagine what would happen to the property market in LA for a start? No, the US was made by brain draining the world, and all Iranian brains are destined to go to the US.

                      Made in Iran
                      The counter voice inside me say, "But the point is that Iran is a power house. It has the magnificent mix of young people, lots of natural resources, and the best real estate on Earth. If you are no good at geography, just take a look at the planet, and you will see that Iran is at the cross roads of civilization." Cool, ok, good argument, but the last thing that the major companies in the world want is a whole bunch of goods Made in Iran, which are better and cheaper than Made in Japan, Made in China, Made in USA, or Made in EU. So they will support a government in Iran, that does not allow bright young minds to grow and prosper in Iran. If you are an American, look at eBay, from which heart do you that idea came from? So the US government will just make sure that Iran has a government that does not allow prosperity for its people.

                      Red Alert vs Can Do
                      But that's not all the world's major powers want. They have invested so much in their military that they just cannot suddenly tear it all down. So a Mickey Mouse that rants regularly is very handy. And that is why we have such a buffoon in charge in Iran. All the world wants from Iran are cheap raw materials, and some reason for the superpowers to keep their military on red alert. The last thing they want is another economically advanced nation that has its own multinational companies with superior quality goods made in Iran, with the "can do" attitude of Good Thoughts Good Words and Good Deeds.

                      iran

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                      • Rasputin
                        Senior Member
                        • Jan 2005
                        • 63906

                        #101
                        Iran 's President Ahmadinejad, a veteran of the Islamic Republic's repressive Revolutionary Guard, took office 3 August 2005 , after a surprise win in a June sham presidential election -- there are no democratic elections in the Islamic Republic of Iran. All candidates are prescreened by the Guardian Council before they are allowed to run for office.

                        In practice, a president of Iran is already chosen through a farce process of giving the voters a chance to elect one of the men hand-picked from the regime's functionaries, as was the case with President Ahmadinejad.

                        No sooner did President Ahmadinejad emerge from obscurity and assumed his new role as the head of the Executive Branch of the Islamic regime in Iran than he unleashed a torrent of venomous rhetoric against the United States and Israel .

                        He proclaimed, " Israel must be wiped off the map," and that the Holocaust was a fabricated myth. He went a step farther and threatened Muslim leaders with consequences if they appeased Israel , "Any leader in the Islamic umma (community) who recognizes Israel faces the wrath of his own people."

                        His hateful rhetoric aside, President Ahmadinejad has reported on events that are terribly strange, to say the least: Behaviors and statements that raise serious questions about his mental state. During his speech at the United Nations General Assembly in September of 2005, for instance, he claimed to have been enveloped by a light that made the entire audience focused on him for the duration without anyone blinking.

                        More recently, during his visit to Saudi Arabia , King Abdullah was unable to move away, because of the strength of force emanated from Iran 's president, so he contends. President Ahmadinejad's repeated claims to his special connection with the supernatural forces, specifically those of the Shiite theology, need to be scrutinized with added concerns.

                        Most recently, President Ahmadinejad has baffled the world by his 18-page letter addressed to President George W Bush. Lay people and experts alike are at a loss in their attempt to understand and decipher the significance, if any, of the letter -- a hodgepodge of religious, philosophical, historical and victimization phraseology that seem to bear very little relation to the present difficulties confronting the Islamic Republic of Iran on one side and the United States of America and much of the free world on the other.

                        The enigma is not hidden in the letter. It's in the act of writing it. The mere sending of the letter--to the most powerful man on earth (President Bush) has epochal historical precedence.

                        In my view, President Ahmadinejad's letter can be better understood when examined within his frame of mind and system of belief. The letter constitutes another exercise in a series of summons, invitations or ultimatums from a person who considers himself a spokesman for Islam to a wayward ruler...in this instance President Bush.

                        This approach dates back to Prophet Muhammad himself who first called upon the infidels to embrace his faith or face his violent wrath. President Ahmadinejad believes he is doing what the Prophet Mohammad commands him to do . He also revered point of emulation, the late Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini, the founder of the Islamic Republic of Iran, also addressed a similar letter to another infidel, contemporary ruler, of his time; the former Secretary General of the Soviet Union Mikhail Gorbachev. Khomeini suggested that Gorbachev embrace Islam.

                        The founder of Islam Muhammad has ordained; "Invite them to embrace Islam. If they refuse, then war upon them." Employing this practice, Islam subdued Persia and other parts of the world by the force of the sword. Perhaps Iran 's new presidential letter to President Bush follows the same strategy where he challenges him and the people of the United States to renounce the Christian faith and attain salvation by embracing Islam. "Will you not accept this invitation?" asks President Ahmadinejad in the letter.

                        President Bush has repeatedly called Islam a “religion of peace.” Has this mistaken idea emboldened Mr. Ahmadinejad? Has this acknowledgement by President Bush caused Iran 's president to issue his summons?. Is history repeating itself? Is a summon of convert ideology a prelude to use of force, as has been the case in numerous Islamic conquests?

                        What makes matters terribly dangerous are the modern instruments of force and the willingness to use them. Centuries ago, the sword in the hand of the Islamists carved a huge empire. Now, with the weapons of mass destruction, the entire world is at peril.

                        If we dig a little deeper into the history books, we observe such an invitation was also sent (at the time considered to be a powerful man) the King of Kings, the Light of Aryans, Yazdgird the III, King of Persia. Perhaps that was the defining moment for Islam and its conquest of the world.

                        It is said nearly 1,400 years ago that Umar Ibn Al Khattab, the second of four Islamic Caliphs sent a letter to King Yazdgird III of Persia to commit Bei'at (Joining with caliph and accepting Islam.) Umar wrote, "Once upon a time your land ruled half the known world but what has it come down to now? Your troops are defeated on all fronts and your nation is bound to collapse. I offer you a way to rescue yourself. Start praying to Allah, a single union God, the only God who created everything in the universe. We bring you and the world his message. Worship, Allah the only true God."

                        If we replace King Yazdgird III, with President Bush, Persia with the United States , and Persians with United States citizens, and the signature of Umar with Ahmadinejad, the new president of the Islamic Republic, the outcome could look horrific.

                        But there was also King Yazdgird III response to Umar. Mentally replace Yazdgird's name with President Bush and Ahura Mazda with Jesus Christ, and then you'll get the picture:

                        "In the name of Ahura Mazda, creator of Life and Intelligence:
                        You, in your letter wrote that you want to direct us towards your God, Allah without having the true knowledge of who we are and who we worship. It is amazing that you occupy the position of Caliph (Ruler) of Arabs, yet your knowledge is the same as a lowly Arab rambler, roaming in deserts of Arabia , and the same as a desert tribal man!

                        "You suggest we worship a united and single God without knowing that for thousands of years Persians have worshiped the mono God and they pray to him five times a day!

                        "When we established the tradition of hospitality and good deeds in the world and we waved the flag of Good Thoughts, Good Words, Good Deeds, in our hands, you and your ancestors were roaming the deserts, eating lizards, for you had nothing else to feed yourselves and burying your innocent daughters alive." (An old Arab tradition, because they preferred male children to female)

                        "You behead God's children, even the prisoners of war, rape women, attack the caravans, mass murder, kidnap people's wives and steal their property! Your hearts are made of stone; we condemn all these evils which you do. How can you teach us Godly Ways when you commit these actions”?

                        "Is it Allah who commands you to murder, pillage and to destroy? Is it you the followers of Allah who do this in his name? Or is it both”?


                        ”Tell us. With all your military campaigns, barbarianism, murder and pillage in the name of Allah O Akbar, what have you taught to this Muslim Army? What knowledge have you taught the Muslims that you also insist on teaching it to non-Muslims? What cultures have you learned from your Allah, now that you want to force teach it to others?"

                        "I beg you to remain with your Allah O Akbar in your deserts and do not move close to our civilized cities, for your beliefs are 'much fearful' and your behavior is 'Most Barbaric'!"

                        Thus the war began and the Arab army under its ruthless commander, Sa'd ibn Abi Waqqas approached. The Persian Army was defeated in the decisive “Battle of Qadisiyah”. Rostam Farokhzad, the courageous Iranian general was murdered and Yazdgird's last attempt to gather forces to counter attack fell short, hence Islam's defining moment was born.

                        The Arabs had come to convert the Persians by hook or by crook. "La ilah ilallah Mohammed ur Rasulallah" (There is no God but Allah and Mohammed is his Prophet.)

                        Those who resisted uttering those words were faced with death or burdened with heavy taxes and other unjust punishments.

                        It is the belief in the same 'Allah' that brought upon the Iranian people the greatest catastrophe of the Islamic revolution. This is also the same belief that brought the twin towers down in the United States of America .

                        iran

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                        • Rasputin
                          Senior Member
                          • Jan 2005
                          • 63906

                          #102
                          2

                          This belief in this Allah will not stop until the entire world bows to its will.

                          Will America follow Persia ? In many ways, America resembles the great, ancient Persian Empire . Like the ancient Persian Empire once was, the United States is now the greatest government in the world. Like the Persians who were the first world managers and the most tolerant empire-builders, America , with its rich constitution, is also the most tolerant and benevolent nation in the world.

                          Ancient Persian kings released the Jews from Babylonian captivity, financed the reestablishment of their nation, and restored their national religion. (Zionists, they were!) The United States has basically done the same. The United States is the reincarnation of Persia , an extension of the Achaemenid Empire.

                          Tyrannical Islam eviscerated the spiritual life of tolerant old Persia . Is history going to repeat itself? It has taken decades for the Persians (modern Iranians) to recover their spirit. Zoroastrianism, the original Iranian religion, was not an effective barrier against the radical religion from the Arabian Desert .

                          Is Christianity going to withstand Islam on its second rush of world conquest?

                          The United States as it stands for democracy is the last haven of hope for which humanity can flourish. Today, after 1,400 years, Islam is again the greatest threat to the existence of the free world and the civilization of Christianity. Persians underestimated the destructive power of Islam; let us hope and pray that the United States does NOT underestimate the destructive power of Islam the second time.

                          iran

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                          • ramin2999

                            #103
                            please cite the source i want to see the site were it was published your contributions are very intresting cant get enogh

                            Originally posted by RedWine
                            2

                            This belief in this Allah will not stop until the entire world bows to its will.

                            Will America follow Persia ? In many ways, America resembles the great, ancient Persian Empire . Like the ancient Persian Empire once was, the United States is now the greatest government in the world. Like the Persians who were the first world managers and the most tolerant empire-builders, America , with its rich constitution, is also the most tolerant and benevolent nation in the world.

                            Ancient Persian kings released the Jews from Babylonian captivity, financed the reestablishment of their nation, and restored their national religion. (Zionists, they were!) The United States has basically done the same. The United States is the reincarnation of Persia , an extension of the Achaemenid Empire.

                            Tyrannical Islam eviscerated the spiritual life of tolerant old Persia . Is history going to repeat itself? It has taken decades for the Persians (modern Iranians) to recover their spirit. Zoroastrianism, the original Iranian religion, was not an effective barrier against the radical religion from the Arabian Desert .

                            Is Christianity going to withstand Islam on its second rush of world conquest?

                            The United States as it stands for democracy is the last haven of hope for which humanity can flourish. Today, after 1,400 years, Islam is again the greatest threat to the existence of the free world and the civilization of Christianity. Persians underestimated the destructive power of Islam; let us hope and pray that the United States does NOT underestimate the destructive power of Islam the second time.

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                            • Rasputin
                              Senior Member
                              • Jan 2005
                              • 63906

                              #104
                              Originally posted by ramin2999
                              please cite the source i want to see the site were it was published your contributions are very intresting cant get enogh
                              This article,was sent to me by mail ! the article was wrriten by A Amil and he's a politic activist in Washington DC !

                              Thx for your nice words amigo .

                              iran

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                              • Rasputin
                                Senior Member
                                • Jan 2005
                                • 63906

                                #105
                                THE LETTER

                                1

                                The epistle that Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, the more or less duly elected President of the Islamic Republic of Iran, sent George W. Bush, the more or less duly elected President of the United States of America, a couple of weeks ago has achieved a certain fame. Like “Remembrance of Things Past” or the tax code, it’s long, and, partly for that reason, more talked about than read. The newspapers refer to it as “the 18-page letter,” although, to be fair, it occupies only six pages in the original Farsi. The text, in an Iranian-provided English translation, is widely available on the Internet. Still, in all probability not everyone has had the chance, or the inclination, to read it. Life is short, and the letter isn’t.

                                The tone is at once polite—not a word about infidels or the Great Satan—and arrogant, with a weird overlay of crackpot earnestness. The reader often feels trapped in a college bull session with a student who, while not overly bright, has plenty of self-esteem. (Ahmadinejad’s formative years were his student ones, when he was caught up in, and may have participated in, the 1979 seizure of the American Embassy and hostages.) The air of undergraduate languor is made explicit in the letter’s first sentence:

                                For some time now, I have been thinking, how one can justify the undeniable contradictions that exist in the international arena—which are being constantly debated, especially in political forums and amongst university students.


                                Much of the text is given over to faux-naïve rhetorical questions, some of them superficially reasonable—

                                Don’t Latin Americans have the right to ask why their elected governments are being opposed and coup leaders supported?


                                Can the possibility of scientific achievements being utilized for military purposes be reason enough to oppose science and technology altogether?


                                Are you pleased with the current condition of the world?


                                —and others anything but, and sinister to boot:

                                After the war they claimed that six million Jews had been killed. Six million people that were surely related to at least two million families. Again let us assume that these events are true. Does that logically translate into the establishment of the state of Israel in the Middle East or support for such a state?


                                September eleven was not a simple operation. Could it be planned and executed without coordination with intelligence and security services—or their extensive infiltration?


                                “Of course this is just an educated guess,” Ahmadinejad adds casually after this last hair-raiser, as if with a shrug and a smile. Most likely, he wrote this letter by himself, or by himself with the help of underlings too terrified to tell him how weird and scary he was sounding. It was certainly not drafted by the Iranian foreign ministry, which still has professionals on its staff.

                                The reaction to the 18-pager on the part of the Bush Administration and its political allies has ranged from gleeful to dismissive. Start with the allies and the glee. John “War on Christmas” Gibson, of Fox News, offered this summary:

                                WMD lies, says the Iranian president. Democrat talking point. Human-rights abuses in Gitmo. Another Dem talking point. The gap between haves and have-nots. The Iranian president and the Dems in lockstep on that one, too. The biggest difference? Ahmadinejad was actually nice about Jesus and Christians.


                                “It’s the Democratic talking points,” Rush Limbaugh agreed on his radio show, adding, by way of rounding up a few more of the usual suspects, “It’s even some liberal Hollywood Jewish people talking point.” Maybe, but Ahmadinejad tosses in a few conservative Crawford Christian people talking points, too: toppling Saddam Hussein is something “the people of the region are happy about”; “liberalism” is no good; ditto “certain Western media.”

                                iran

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