By the way , I am not a political person , not at all. But I like strong characters. Unfortunatly I don't know the names that you mentioned .( some of them) but I will read about them. If your name is in history books , you have something that other people have not , positive or negative. and that's what i like.
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there just seems to be something really unfair about thatTake him and cut him out in little stars,
and he will make the face of heaven so fine,
that all the world will be in love with night,
and pay no worship to the garish sun
- Shakespeare
"In all intellectual debates, both sides tend to be correct in what they affirm, and wrong in what they deny." - JS Mill
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No , James Duffy firmly condemns Hitler in this book. He has a great aversion to Hitler. you can find information about scandals of Nazi generals , this book is completely fair.
in the first page , Duffy wrote "To the men and women who lost their lives in the struggle against Adolf Hitler" it means he does not like Hitler.
there is achapter about hitler's oath , as u know he had a famous oath . Duffy says many german officers cooperated with the most evil man in history by repeating ... ( the oath) , he calls hitler ' the most evil man in history' , so this book is fair.
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oh great, I'll keep that in mind, though I meant something else. something I read was about deception and how strong personalities can sometimes be deceptive. like I think Churchill or one of Hitler's other enemies came out of a meeting with him and said he was enchanted. but it was all deception. and there are people in everyday life who have strong personalities and are able to deceive other people because of it. sometimes the deception might be good for all I know but sometimes like in the case of Hitler perhaps it was bad, though I don't believe he was intrinsically evil just that his beliefs were so out of whack that it lead him to evil actions. anyway, this is the argument people use against any strong personality now like the "persian" version, that its just deception like Hitler was.
thanks for the info/perspectiveLast edited by zubin; 11-18-2006, 12:25 AM.Take him and cut him out in little stars,
and he will make the face of heaven so fine,
that all the world will be in love with night,
and pay no worship to the garish sun
- Shakespeare
"In all intellectual debates, both sides tend to be correct in what they affirm, and wrong in what they deny." - JS Mill
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sorry mike but moshe dayan is not even between humans! he can be best in other catagouries!!!Originally posted by mike435 View Postlol wow
evey man has those aspiriation of achiving greatness
it is humanature if their is such a thing it is normal and expected for a person to achive and acelerate
hitler was a sycopath an insane genius who was sick in the brain
how can you like hitler you are confusin drive with personality
why dont you lkike gahndi
or even a beeter person hue heffner
or clinton
or moshe dayan
you should love a person based on their achivements not based on theri aspirations
every one basicly has the same aspirationsنه غزه نه لبنان جانم فدای ایران

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where on Borat's list of animals do you think he would be?Originally posted by donsaeid View Postsorry mike but moshe dayan is not even between humans! he can be best in other catagouries!!!Take him and cut him out in little stars,
and he will make the face of heaven so fine,
that all the world will be in love with night,
and pay no worship to the garish sun
- Shakespeare
"In all intellectual debates, both sides tend to be correct in what they affirm, and wrong in what they deny." - JS Mill
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oo sorry JOUBIN , I made mistake . I did not see your ID , I thought your message was sent by MIKE435 . U know I usually don't llook at IDs , I just read messages . ooh sorry about that .
u knwo this is so controversial topic. everybody has idea and so many reasons to prove that.but I personally like to hear other ideas.
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yeah, I do'nt know... I guess mike went to sleep. he usually respondsTake him and cut him out in little stars,
and he will make the face of heaven so fine,
that all the world will be in love with night,
and pay no worship to the garish sun
- Shakespeare
"In all intellectual debates, both sides tend to be correct in what they affirm, and wrong in what they deny." - JS Mill
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either I'm having a really bad week or you're saying here moshe dayan whom I don't even know!!! is not in the category of humans!Originally posted by donsaeid View Postsorry mike but moshe dayan is not even between humans! he can be best in other catagouries!!!Take him and cut him out in little stars,
and he will make the face of heaven so fine,
that all the world will be in love with night,
and pay no worship to the garish sun
- Shakespeare
"In all intellectual debates, both sides tend to be correct in what they affirm, and wrong in what they deny." - JS Mill
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look you didnt get my whole point i named all those random people to show that you care about peoples desire and not really their accomplishments but than your rebutal about hitlers accomplishment with killing a soldire means alot
but i still dont think you should admire him becuase their are so many people beofre many time famous person is much more great than anyfamous person
and to donsaid sad you feel like that maybe because he single handedly devised one of the greatest preemtive war starategies in the history of mankind (six-day war) or becuause his startagy and deveption of enemy let him to be a victor with a force that was out numbered in every single category from air to gorund to troops to everything when the US wasnt even its allli when it was a true under dogg.
i am really being serious forget about his afiliation and just look at him you really dont think he was insane
it sad that you are calling him an animal but you are entitled to your opnion
look in that list of admired people your own name is just as worthy as any of those names.
my favorit
bill clinton
most powerful man in the world, ruled during the peak of civilization with peac and prosparity everywere, and was one of the most travled presidents
bravo clinton bravo
G-d determines who walks into your life....It is up to you to decide who you let walk away, who you let stay, and who you refuse to let go.
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that is so funny! pre-emptive war! what does is it achive? more war!
moshe dayan is a murderer! people who start a war arent great! they have blod in their had! May God forgive them!
joubin and mike! stop BSing! no body called nobody a animal! for me he is not a human! a murderer isnt a human! a human is something filled with peace and harmony!
ahmadinezhad says Israel will attack iran. and israels government have said it alot of times to that they consider it! so if ahmadinezhad attacked israel and made a so called pre amptive war he is a great strategist and a great human?نه غزه نه لبنان جانم فدای ایران

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look man be realistic
do you know the circimstances of the sixday war
all the arab countries had decided to atttack israel infact they were showing it offf
since israel knew that the war wont be avarted they attacked first and wiped out the arab militarys
he did what anyhuman should do defend his people
is it inhuman if a murder comes to your home and you protact yourself against him
will you just sit their
also i didnt think you called him an animal you said he doesnt belong among humans
so i take it you belive he is a superhero since he isnot an animal good point
G-d determines who walks into your life....It is up to you to decide who you let walk away, who you let stay, and who you refuse to let go.
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